Reference Letter for spouse's non-Canadian work experience required?

[syed_]

Hi,

For Express Entry FSW, the document checklist at "http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resources/tools/perm/express/intake-complete.asp#document_checklist" clearly mentions that spouse's reference letter (experience letter) is only required if the work experience is in Canada, and that too if it is claimed (for CRS points).

Individuals who must submit this documentation

• The principal applicant
• Their spouse or common-law partner (if work experience in Canada is claimed)

I request people who have mentioned spouse's "non-Canada experience" in the work history section of Express Entry profile and e-APR to share:
- if document checklist presented to them by the online system asked them to submit experience letters for the non-Canadian experience of wife?

As per my understanding of the "orange" highlighted part, non-Canadian work experience of wife should not generate the requirement of submitting a letter of reference (experience letter).

Would appreciate clarity in this.

Thanks.

 

[DelPiero07]

It will generate a placeholder.

 

[syed_]

Thank you for your reply.

My wife has a non-Canada experience of about 3 years. The experience letter she got from the employer includes most of the required details, but is not 100% complaint with IRCC's requirement (duties and responsibilities, weekly working hours are missing). The employer is unwilling to provide a revised one with job description mentioned on it.
Now, If I mention this experience in Express Entry's "Spouse Work History" section, would it be okay to upload this "not so complete" experience letter, considering it doesn't impact CRS score?

If not okay, How do you suggest should i handle this 3 years experience of my wife in Express Entry profile?

Thanks.

 

[farazafzal]

Thank you for your reply.

My wife has a non-Canada experience of about 3 years. The experience letter she got from the employer includes most of the required details, but is not 100% complaint with IRCC's requirement (duties and responsibilities, weekly working hours are missing). The employer is unwilling to provide a revised one with job description mentioned on it.
Now, If I mention this experience in Express Entry's "Spouse Work History" section, would it be okay to upload this "not so complete" experience letter, considering it doesn't impact CRS score?

If not okay, How do you suggest should i handle this 3 years experience of my wife in Express Entry profile?

Thanks.

You can't upload documents that are not fulfilling CIC requirements.
Work around is that You don't mention this work in her work history.
You should write this experience as a personal history of her and this will not generate place holder for this.

GLuck

 

[syed_]

You can't upload documents that are not fulfilling CIC requirements.
Work around is that You don't mention this work in her work history.
You should write this experience as a personal history of her and this will not generate place holder for this.

GLuck

Thanks farazafzal.

If i decide not to mention her work experience in work history of Express Entry profile (as personal history section is not available at the stage of express entry profile), this would mean that I'll have to answer "No" to the question "Does your wife have any work history?", and then later on I'll be saying that she does have work experience by mentioning the same in the personal history section of e-APR application.

Would these two parts not contradict each other? please suggest.

 

[farazafzal]

Thanks farazafzal.

If i decide not to mention her work experience in work history of Express Entry profile (as personal history section is not available at the stage of express entry profile), this would mean that I'll have to answer "No" to the question "Does your wife have any work history?", and then later on I'll be saying that she does have work experience by mentioning the same in the personal history section of e-APR application.

Would these two parts not contradict each other? please suggest.

This is not contradiction !!

You are going to mention her work as a personal history. NO as per above means you are not going to claim CRS score towards her work history!
You are safe with this option and nothing to worry about!
GLuck

 

[Jiogill]

Hi, My case is little different. I and my spouse got Canadian VISITOR VISA. During Visitor VISA application, I mentioned all mine and my spouse’s NON- Canadian work experience in the application.

Now, I (PA) want to apply for immigration in EE for Manitoba PNP nomination.
Questions:
1) Is it compulsory to mention all spouses’ work experience in work history in Express Entry?
2) If I select ‘NO’ in spouse’s work history pre ITA and will mention all in personal history after ITA
3) If I select YES in spouse’s work history pre ITA and will remove all work experience from work history and add in personal history after ITA.
4) She had worked for 4 employers, Can I select YES in work history and declare only current experience because we can get reference letter easily. For remaining 3 employers, I will not mention in Express Entry Pre-ITA and will add only in personal history post the ITA/ PNP nomination.

Please suggest which best option is. I am worried that I mentioned my spouse's WE in Visitor VISA so If I select NO in EE now, It is showing my spouse does not have WE but I have shown in Visitor VISA. If I select YES now and remove after ITA then I can justify that I am not able to get documents. This is the reason.
Now pls tell me what your case was please. Did you mentioned NO pre ITA OR removed post the ITA

Also, do you know someone who did the same(Mentioned pre-ITA NO OR removed post the ITA) and got Medical/final stage/PR successfully. In which case (Mentioned pre-ITA NO OR removed post the ITA) you see most successful cases.

 

[farazafzal]

Hi, My case is little different. I and my spouse got Canadian VISITOR VISA. During Visitor VISA application, I mentioned all mine and my spouse’s NON- Canadian work experience in the application.

Now, I (PA) want to apply for immigration in EE for Manitoba PNP nomination.
Questions:
1) Is it compulsory to mention all spouses’ work experience in work history in Express Entry?
2) If I select ‘NO’ in spouse’s work history pre ITA and will mention all in personal history after ITA
3) If I select YES in spouse’s work history pre ITA and will remove all work experience from work history and add in personal history after ITA.
4) She had worked for 4 employers, Can I select YES in work history and declare only current experience because we can get reference letter easily. For remaining 3 employers, I will not mention in Express Entry Pre-ITA and will add only in personal history post the ITA/ PNP nomination.

Please suggest which best option is. I am worried that I mentioned my spouse's WE in Visitor VISA so If I select NO in EE now, It is showing my spouse does not have WE but I have shown in Visitor VISA. If I select YES now and remove after ITA then I can justify that I am not able to get documents. This is the reason.
Now pls tell me what your case was please. Did you mentioned NO pre ITA OR removed post the ITA

Also, do you know someone who did the same(Mentioned pre-ITA NO OR removed post the ITA) and got Medical/final stage/PR successfully. In which case (Mentioned pre-ITA NO OR removed post the ITA) you see most successful cases.

First of all your case is not unique and it happens everyday.

EE is a complete different philosophy then a visitor visa.
My case is no different than yours we had 10 years visit visa and later we applied for EE.
1. Not compulsory at all, and not recommended at all. It is more work and no benefit situation.
2. This is what you will have to do.
3. This is not recommended at all, you will have to mention and prove the best efforts to secure such letters, which actually you should have not mentioned to begin with.
4. No you should not mention any employer and employment history. Again you will have to satisfy officer with the best efforts you have made to secure such letters. Don't open the pandora box and invite visa agents to look for problems.

You will have to read the FAQs in my signature and related them to my answers here.
Good luck and as I mentioned for you it is Option 2 and don't look for other answers and invite problems and confusion.

 

[Jiogill]

First of all your case is not unique and it happens everyday.

EE is a complete different philosophy then a visitor visa.
My case is no different than yours we had 10 years visit visa and later we applied for EE.
1. Not compulsory at all, and not recommended at all. It is more work and no benefit situation.
2. This is what you will have to do.
3. This is not recommended at all, you will have to mention and prove the best efforts to secure such letters, which actually you should have not mentioned to begin with.
4. No you should not mention any employer and employment history. Again you will have to satisfy officer with the best efforts you have made to secure such letters. Don't open the pandora box and invite visa agents to look for problems.

You will have to read the FAQs in my signature and related them to my answers here.
Good luck and as I mentioned for you it is Option 2 and don't look for other answers and invite problems and confusion.

Thank you for your reply.

Your case was similar to me. Can you please tell me how did you(Primary Applicant) mention all.
Means First you mentioned all your spouse's work experience in TRV application

Then in EE, you selected NO for spouse's work history. then post ITA, you declared those spouse's experience in personal history?

was this your case or any differences please?