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Modmad

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Mar 11, 2017
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I have not seen people with this problem, but I have inferred it from the CIC verdict !
I was searching for that specific page, but could not find, but you can have my word for that for the summary I am writing below:
"In summary they say that incomplete application, could be due to your incomplete documents, as well as due to accidental mistake of Immigration officer. If you think you have done things right, and the mistake was done by immigration officer, let us know through case specific enquiry." The summary in quotes is what CIC says, so I understand they know this could be a problem !..

Don't worry about their action time, you should do your job, and let them do there. Please make sure that you have done things right to be on safe side. !!

What Vensak has said is very important:
-- You should have the uploaded files copy, I am sure you have, just have a look at it, and see if the documents were all bind together?
-- Go to your application and see the name of file you have uploaded, confirm that the name is same as the file you think you have uploaded?

If that's correct, you should be safe ! The reply differs from case to case, but I have first hand experienced their replies within 2 weeks time.

Good luck.
Many thanks for your very useful information. I will let you know the result ASAP.
 

pakimom

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Aug 5, 2014
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@farazafzal - I too have recently raised a CSE as by mistake in my Marriage certificate documents I attached scan of Affidavit of translator for 'Birth Certificate' instead of Affidavit of Translator for 'Marriage certificate'. They are the same person from same Translation office and the appearance of the document was the same and I made a mistake during scanning and sadly I noticed only after uploading and transmitting. I raised a CSE and explained the situation and uploaded the corrected documents.

However- after reading your posts above please note the following:

- I have NOT attached a scan of the Original Marriage Certificate.

I have uploaded only the following:

- Colour Scan of Certified copy of 'Nikah Nama' (Marriage certificate in Urdu) with stamps of Notary Public notarizing it to take effect on all continents and stamp declaring "Certified True Copy of Marriage Certificate"
-- The Translation of the certificate by a certified Translator from Translation office - I had it also notarized by the same Notary who notarized my Certified True copy.
-- Affidavit of the translator - notarized by same Notary
-- Affidavit signed by the Notary Public on PKR 100 Stamp paper with his full name address and license as Oath Commissioner/Notary Public declaring that he has certified true copies and notarized them.

Will not uploading the scan of the original marriage certificate be an issue? Could I also have my application cancelled because of this? Very worried now. Kindly advise..
 

farazafzal

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@farazafzal - I too have recently raised a CSE as by mistake in my Marriage certificate documents I attached scan of Affidavit of translator for 'Birth Certificate' instead of Affidavit of Translator for 'Marriage certificate'. They are the same person from same Translation office and the appearance of the document was the same and I made a mistake during scanning and sadly I noticed only after uploading and transmitting. I raised a CSE and explained the situation and uploaded the corrected documents.

However- after reading your posts above please note the following:

- I have NOT attached a scan of the Original Marriage Certificate.

I have uploaded only the following:

- Colour Scan of Certified copy of 'Nikah Nama' (Marriage certificate in Urdu) with stamps of Notary Public notarizing it to take effect on all continents and stamp declaring "Certified True Copy of Marriage Certificate"
-- The Translation of the certificate by a certified Translator from Translation office - I had it also notarized by the same Notary who notarized my Certified True copy.
-- Affidavit of the translator - notarized by same Notary
-- Affidavit signed by the Notary Public on PKR 100 Stamp paper with his full name address and license as Oath Commissioner/Notary Public declaring that he has certified true copies and notarized them.

Will not uploading the scan of the original marriage certificate be an issue? Could I also have my application cancelled because of this? Very worried now. Kindly advise..
You should have uploaded the original color scanned copy too !
You don't have to worry, and send another CSE with correct documents !
This time scan all documents you have mentioned above as well as the original Nikah certificate ! (I am saying this as I am afraid you might only send the original marriage certifcate only this time) Make roads easy for CIC, facilitate them so that they understand your concerns, and address them appropriately, instead of confusing them more.

Good luck !
 

pakimom

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@farazafzal .....No I am really worried ...should I then also upload scans of the originals of the following:
1. My Kids Original Birth Certificates
2. Degrees & s Original Certificates
3. My Aunts Original Birth Certificates (as claiming points)
4. NICOP Originals
5. NADRA Family Registration Original

For all these documents, I uploaded all CERTIFIED TRUE COPIES as these photocopies had stamps of ministry of Foreign Affairs in Kuwait on the back and so I certified those through a Notary Public who has written date and stamped it as 'Certified True Copy of the Original"; along with Gold Seal of Oath Commissioner and stamp stating that it is notarized to take effect in all Continents. I thought that as I had sent these same copies for my Provincial Nomination via paper they would be accepted.

Wouldn't it be a cause for concern to them if I suddenly started sending all these documents to them all over again? Also there is the 2MB limitation per CSE....and I don't know if I will be able to send all of these at one time.
:eek::eek:
 

vensak

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@farazafzal .....No I am really worried ...should I then also upload scans of the originals of the following:
1. My Kids Original Birth Certificates
2. Degrees & s Original Certificates
3. My Aunts Original Birth Certificates (as claiming points)
4. NICOP Originals
5. NADRA Family Registration Original

For all these documents, I uploaded all CERTIFIED TRUE COPIES as these photocopies had stamps of ministry of Foreign Affairs in Kuwait on the back and so I certified those through a Notary Public who has written date and stamped it as 'Certified True Copy of the Original"; along with Gold Seal of Oath Commissioner and stamp stating that it is notarized to take effect in all Continents. I thought that as I had sent these same copies for my Provincial Nomination via paper they would be accepted.

Wouldn't it be a cause for concern to them if I suddenly started sending all these documents to them all over again? Also there is the 2MB limitation per CSE....and I don't know if I will be able to send all of these at one time.
:eek::eek:

Certified true copies of these documents are accepted, so no worries there. Only case where you shall upload scanned original in color is for PCC (there it does not make much sense to upload copies anyway).
 

astralsource

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Jul 10, 2016
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AOR Received.
22-04-2017
Med's Request
19-06-2017
Med's Done....
13-04-2017
Dear freinds. I recieved an Email today saying that my case has been cancelled for the missing document "original marriage certificate". I am sure that I have uploaded it (and its certified translation) at the time of submission and also I have the screenshot its successfully uploaded! What should I do now for the mistake which is made by the case officer or a bug in their own system?
Please help me as I am really frustrated.
Send them a Case Specific Enquiry because if its their mistake, they will reopen your application. Happened to others too.

If you know where your case is being processed, you can contact that Visa office directly through CSE or by mail!
 

DEEPCUR

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Apr 12, 2016
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Send them a Case Specific Enquiry because if its their mistake, they will reopen your application. Happened to others too.

If you know where your case is being processed, you can contact that Visa office directly through CSE or by mail!

Yeah, but the biggest problem doing that is that they take at least one month to reopen the case and then start processing. One could lose a lot (like CRS increase) during that time period!

CIC should start canceling applications within one month from application like they used to do before. Also they need to have quicker response for the CSEs that reach them as CIC's mistake. Not everyone can raise a CSE stating CIC's mistake. Only few cases like this could do that. So they would get only real mistakes or at least the ones that seem to be real mistake.

This cancellation is so scary.
 

astralsource

Champion Member
Jul 10, 2016
2,059
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Croatia
Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
Ottawa, ON
NOC Code......
5122
App. Filed.......
22-04-2017
AOR Received.
22-04-2017
Med's Request
19-06-2017
Med's Done....
13-04-2017
In order to find out where your case is being processed, send the following e-mail to CPC-CTD-Ottawa@cic.gc.ca
You will need to communicate them your application number!

Subject: E000XXXXXX - Visa Office

"Hello,

I am trying to find out in which Visa office my application is being processed?

Application number: E000XXXXXX
Date of Birth: YYYY-MM-DD
Last Name: ...
First Name: .....
UCI: -
Category of Immigration: Federal Skilled Worker

Best regards"

Shortly after you will get an answer. Then contact me if you want, I will direct you further. If you already know where you are being processed, share information here.

You can at least try, of course its not a guarantee it will work, CIC is overloaded AND making silly mistakes.. disturbing I agree but you have to try everything in your power!!!
 

astralsource

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Jul 10, 2016
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Category........
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Visa Office......
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5122
App. Filed.......
22-04-2017
AOR Received.
22-04-2017
Med's Request
19-06-2017
Med's Done....
13-04-2017
Yeah, but the biggest problem doing that is that they take at least one month to reopen the case and then start processing. One could lose a lot (like CRS increase) during that time period!

CIC should start canceling applications within one month from application like they used to do before. Also they need to have quicker response for the CSEs that reach them as CIC's mistake. Not everyone can raise a CSE stating CIC's mistake. Only few cases like this could do that. So they would get only real mistakes or at least the ones that seem to be real mistake.

This cancellation is so scary.
But if the mistake is theirs and he can prove it, then there s no other option for them but to reopen!!

They should cancel everyone who has incomplete app. in the first month yes, but unfortuntely its 55-60 days for most.
 

techLover

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Aug 29, 2016
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I can remember , I read your (farazafzal) reply few days ago that a marriage certificate issued by NADRA
Is enough. I followed your advice. It is simple one and verifiable (I guess).



You should have uploaded the original color scanned copy too !
You don't have to worry, and send another CSE with correct documents !
This time scan all documents you have mentioned above as well as the original Nikah certificate ! (I am saying this as I am afraid you might only send the original marriage certifcate only this time) Make roads easy for CIC, facilitate them so that they understand your concerns, and address them appropriately, instead of confusing them more.

Good luck !
 

wan11knu

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Jan 27, 2017
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Sorry to hear this...Why don't you order GCMS notes? Takes a long time so do it asap, may help you draft your reply/cse properly. All the best
 

bellaluna

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May 23, 2014
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Sorry to hear this, but have you considered it might be faster to get a new ITA and make a new application with all the correct documents?
 

Modmad

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Mar 11, 2017
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For those who asked me for elaboration:
I have uploaded all certified copies of my original documents exactly according to the CIC instruction (notary public certified and so on) + their certified translation (again exactly according to instruction). I have an experienced registered lawyer in Canada doing the job and double checked everything. He's got surprised when the case rejected. He sent a CSE to them however he is not optimistic at all that CIC take the problem serious. We are now looking forward to their answer and likely clarification.
For people who like to know more info about my case:
My total score:457
IELTS: overall 7.5 and R7.5 L8 W7 S.7
Medical: Passed just a couple of days before rejection
I got ITA in January and uploaded my case 40 days after that.
I live in and apply from Iran
My lawyer is in Canada

The rejection reason: incomplete docs
(Original marriage certificate)
Those who may have reliable info please advise. I would appreciate.
 

Modmad

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Mar 11, 2017
62
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Sorry to hear this, but have you considered it might be faster to get a new ITA and make a new application with all the correct documents?
Yes. But as long as I don't know the real reason of rejection, another application might have the same result. REJECTION FOR INCOMPLETENESS. That is why, I am trying to find out what caused them not to see/consider my marriage cert.