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Anyone on here with an Associate's Degree

Funkdakarma

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Hi,

Has anyone here received a 2 year Associate's Degree from the US? It's a precursor to a Bachelor's degree.

I have this, in addition to a Bachelor's degree, and an MBA, the last two of which I've already received WES evaluations for.

Just wanted to see if anyone has gotten an Associate's Degree evaluation as well, and if it's really required? Especially if you get the higher degrees evaluated.

Any help would be appreciated!

Thanks
 

croft24

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Hi,

Has anyone here received a 2 year Associate's Degree from the US? It's a precursor to a Bachelor's degree.

I have this, in addition to a Bachelor's degree, and an MBA, the last two of which I've already received WES evaluations for.

Just wanted to see if anyone has gotten an Associate's Degree evaluation as well, and if it's really required? Especially if you get the higher degrees evaluated.

Any help would be appreciated!

Thanks
Hi,
I have. With WES only takes maybe a few weeks. You will get more points, if you have more than one degree which one of them is a program of 3 years or more.
If you send your 2 year associated degree to Wes and get it evaluated, it will count as a seperate certification which is acceptable and will give you more extra point so yes it would be a good idea to get it done.
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/immigrate/skilled/eca-conversion.asp
 

Funkdakarma

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^ By the link you provided, if OP already got a Masters-equivalent ECA, then adding the associate's degree isn't necessary anymore.
That's what I was thinking. I've got both my MBA and BBA assessed through WES (both are Canadian level MBA and BBA's), so I don't think it will make a difference to the points.

My main concern is not the points, it's that I don't want my application to be deemed incomplete if I don't have my Associate's Degree evaluated by WES. Also, when I tried to upgrade my existing assessment with the Associate's Degree evaluation, they wanted to charge me $233!
 
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bellaluna

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^ Yeah, that's ridiculous and unnecessary already.

Anyway, it's normal for only the highest degree to be assessed, so you don't have to worry about providing incomplete details if you don't get the ECA done for the associate's degree. If you're so concerned, you can remove it from your Education and only declare it in your Personal History.
 

Funkdakarma

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^ Yeah, that's ridiculous and unnecessary already.

Anyway, it's normal for only the highest degree to be assessed, so you don't have to worry about providing incomplete details if you don't get the ECA done for the associate's degree. If you're so concerned, you can remove it from your Education and only declare it in your Personal History.
Thanks a lot for your replies bellaluna!

I've already received the ITA, and from what I've read it isn't possible to modify what you've included in the online profile? Or am I mistaken?

It does seem redundant to me. Especially when my MBA has been already accredited by WES as being Canadian level.

Thank you
 

bellaluna

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^ You're going to have to go through a questionnaire, identical to the online profile, after the ITA, so you can change your answers there. Don't worry about it, especially since there will be no change in points anyway. Just don't forget to provide the diploma copies for your degrees with the ECA.
Oh, and if you declare the associate's degree from the US in your personal history, be prepared to get an FBI PCC--good on you if you already started on it or have it already.
 
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Funkdakarma

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^ You're going to have to go through a questionnaire, identical to the online profile, after the ITA, so you can change your answers there. Don't worry about it, especially since there will be no change in points anyway. Just don't forget to provide the diploma copies for your degrees with the ECA.
Oh, and if you declare the associate's degree from the US in your personal history, be prepared to get an FBI PCC--good on you if you already started on it or have it already.
Thanks a lot, yes I got the PCC already from FBI. I actually got it back in 2011 (when I first had plans to migrate to Canada, which fell through at the time).

I also need one from Spain, where I did my MBA.
 
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grapehair

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Thanks a lot, yes I got the PCC already from FBI. I actually got it back in 2011 (when I first had plans to migrate to Canada, which fell through at the time).

I also need one from Spain, where I did my MBA.
Please make sure your FBI PCC was issued AFTER the last date you were in US, if US is not your current residence. If US is your current residence, then it should not be older than 6 months.
 
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Funkdakarma

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Please make sure your FBI PCC was issued AFTER the last date you were in US, if US is not your current residence. If US is your current residence, then it should not be older than 6 months.
Thanks grapehair. I guess that means after the last date of my long-term residence in the US, correct? I am not resident in the US.

I lived in the US from 1996 to 2002. I received the FBI clearance in 2011. I have been back once since, but only for a visit, a few weeks.

Thanks
 

grapehair

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Thanks grapehair. I guess that means after the last date of my long-term residence in the US, correct? I am not resident in the US.

I lived in the US from 1996 to 2002. I received the FBI clearance in 2011. I have been back once since, but only for a visit, a few weeks.

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You're welcome. Did you go back for the visit after you received your FBI report or before ?
 
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Funkdakarma

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You're welcome. Did you go back for the visit after you received your FBI report or before ?
So my timelines are as follows:

1996-2002: Studied and worked in the US
April 2011: Crossed US border for a day from Canada (Niagara)
2012: Received my FBI clearance (can't remember the exact date)
April-May 2016: Visited the US for 3 weeks or so

Both visits were made on a tourist visa I got back in 2011.
 

Funkdakarma

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So my timelines are as follows:

1996-2002: Studied and worked in the US
April 2011: Crossed US border for a day from Canada (Niagara)
2012: Received my FBI clearance (can't remember the exact date)
April-May 2016: Visited the US for 3 weeks or so

Both visits were made on a tourist visa I got back in 2011.
The IRCC requirements are specified as so:

If you need a police certificate from a country or territory and:
  • are currently living there, or received the police certificate before leaving, the police certificate must be issued within six months before you apply.
  • have lived there in the past, the police certificate must be issued after you last lived in that country or territory.

Therefore, visits would not count I think (I hope!).
 

bellaluna

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^ Nope. I'm afraid you still have to get a new FBI PCC, even if the subsequent visit was made on a tourist visa. IRCC is very strict about this. I've easily seen them request for PCCs for 5.5 months of accumulated visits to the US.
 

Funkdakarma

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^ Nope. I'm afraid you still have to get a new FBI PCC, even if the subsequent visit was made on a tourist visa. IRCC is very strict about this. I've easily seen them request for PCCs for 5.5 months of accumulated visits to the US.
Are you sure? But that doesn't make any sense. If I've already received a police clearance after my long stay there, why would they need a clearance after a tourist visit?

This is a bit of a bummer. I have less than two months before my ITA expires, and the FBI says it could take up to 10 weeks to provide the clearance.