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NOC 2171. Please help

thecoldperson

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Feb 13, 2017
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REQUIRED BY cic GUIDELINES noc 2171:

Main duties
The following is a summary of the main duties for some occupations in this unit group:
• Information systems business analysts and consultants confer with clients to identify and document requirements, conduct business and technical studies, design, develop, integrate and implement information systems business solutions, and provide advice on information systems strategy, policy, management, security and service delivery.
• Systems security analysts confer with clients to identify and document requirements, assess physical and technical security risks to data, software and hardware, and develop policies, procedures and contingency plans to minimize the effects of security breaches.
• Information systems quality assurance analysts develop and implement policies and procedures throughout the software development life cycle to maximize the efficiency, effectiveness and overall quality of software products and information systems.
• Systems auditors conduct independent third-party reviews to assess quality assurance practices, software products and information systems.
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My version is it okay? :-X

• Interacting with the clients from service delivery for requirement gathering
• Identifying the use cases to transform them into logical and technical views thus creating a Business requirement document.
• Customizing the business area and ensuring the system acts accordingly to the constraints of the use Case
• Prepare ,update and present the support documentation for the existing and new interfaces for the support purpose
• Assisting team members in preparing the Standard operating procedures taking into account the impact and risks relating to the security of the ERP tool.
• Constantly maintaining the quality of the tool by performing exploratory, user acceptance and integration testing to ensure the tool runs smoothly, effectively and efficiently without taking any downtime.
• Interacting with the auditors and covering them through the overall process, functionalities of the tool, customizations deployed and maintenance aspects relating to information security.
 

harish21jun

Star Member
Mar 24, 2015
165
12
Category........
NOC Code......
2174
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
AOR Received.
07-03-2017
thecoldperson said:
REQUIRED BY cic GUIDELINES noc 2171:

Main duties
The following is a summary of the main duties for some occupations in this unit group:
• Information systems business analysts and consultants confer with clients to identify and document requirements, conduct business and technical studies, design, develop, integrate and implement information systems business solutions, and provide advice on information systems strategy, policy, management, security and service delivery.
• Systems security analysts confer with clients to identify and document requirements, assess physical and technical security risks to data, software and hardware, and develop policies, procedures and contingency plans to minimize the effects of security breaches.
• Information systems quality assurance analysts develop and implement policies and procedures throughout the software development life cycle to maximize the efficiency, effectiveness and overall quality of software products and information systems.
• Systems auditors conduct independent third-party reviews to assess quality assurance practices, software products and information systems.
===== = == = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
My version is it okay? :-X

• Interacting with the clients from service delivery for requirement gathering
• Identifying the use cases to transform them into logical and technical views thus creating a Business requirement document.
• Customizing the business area and ensuring the system acts accordingly to the constraints of the use Case
• Prepare ,update and present the support documentation for the existing and new interfaces for the support purpose
• Assisting team members in preparing the Standard operating procedures taking into account the impact and risks relating to the security of the ERP tool.
• Constantly maintaining the quality of the tool by performing exploratory, user acceptance and integration testing to ensure the tool runs smoothly, effectively and efficiently without taking any downtime.
• Interacting with the auditors and covering them through the overall process, functionalities of the tool, customizations deployed and maintenance aspects relating to information security.
Actually no one can clearly answer this type of questions, the best you can do is to get it reviewed with your coworker(s) and do not copy word by word if you have :p
I too had hard time, changed resposibilities multiple times and luckily got approved PR reference to compare.

All the best.
 

thecoldperson

Full Member
Feb 13, 2017
22
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Hey thanks for the reply.
Guys please help. I really need to take this on letter head. Will this do ? As per my knowledge i think it does satisfy the requirements and the duties which one carries out for the NOC 2171 . What do you guys think? Experts and Champion and vip members.Please help.

Thank you in advance again.
 

g126

Champion Member
Feb 22, 2016
2,096
156
124
Sao Paulo
Category........
PNP
Visa Office......
São Paulo
NOC Code......
2171
App. Filed.......
27-01-2016
Doc's Request.
16-12-2016
Nomination.....
09-12-2016
AOR Received.
07-01-2017
File Transfer...
18-02-2017
Med's Request
UPFRONT
Med's Done....
15-12-2016
Passport Req..
16-06-2017
VISA ISSUED...
22-06-2017
LANDED..........
09-10-2017
thecoldperson said:
REQUIRED BY cic GUIDELINES noc 2171:

Main duties
The following is a summary of the main duties for some occupations in this unit group:
• Information systems business analysts and consultants confer with clients to identify and document requirements, conduct business and technical studies, design, develop, integrate and implement information systems business solutions, and provide advice on information systems strategy, policy, management, security and service delivery.
• Systems security analysts confer with clients to identify and document requirements, assess physical and technical security risks to data, software and hardware, and develop policies, procedures and contingency plans to minimize the effects of security breaches.
• Information systems quality assurance analysts develop and implement policies and procedures throughout the software development life cycle to maximize the efficiency, effectiveness and overall quality of software products and information systems.
• Systems auditors conduct independent third-party reviews to assess quality assurance practices, software products and information systems.
===== = == = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
My version is it okay? :-X

• Interacting with the clients from service delivery for requirement gathering
• Identifying the use cases to transform them into logical and technical views thus creating a Business requirement document.
• Customizing the business area and ensuring the system acts accordingly to the constraints of the use Case
• Prepare ,update and present the support documentation for the existing and new interfaces for the support purpose
• Assisting team members in preparing the Standard operating procedures taking into account the impact and risks relating to the security of the ERP tool.
• Constantly maintaining the quality of the tool by performing exploratory, user acceptance and integration testing to ensure the tool runs smoothly, effectively and efficiently without taking any downtime.
• Interacting with the auditors and covering them through the overall process, functionalities of the tool, customizations deployed and maintenance aspects relating to information security.
"Assisting team members" and "interacting with" means you weren't doing these yourself - since you're only mentioning this for two points no harm in leaving it in there, but try to refrain from saying things that makes you look like a helper or assistant.

Your points 1, 2 and 4 are OK... You may like to give a little more detail, but not too specific otherwise it may look like you only did them ONCE.

For point 3, what is "customizing business area"? I can't understand what you mean and I figure if I can't the officer won't either...
 

g126

Champion Member
Feb 22, 2016
2,096
156
124
Sao Paulo
Category........
PNP
Visa Office......
São Paulo
NOC Code......
2171
App. Filed.......
27-01-2016
Doc's Request.
16-12-2016
Nomination.....
09-12-2016
AOR Received.
07-01-2017
File Transfer...
18-02-2017
Med's Request
UPFRONT
Med's Done....
15-12-2016
Passport Req..
16-06-2017
VISA ISSUED...
22-06-2017
LANDED..........
09-10-2017
kryt0n said:
1. Working with xxx Teams and xxx’s to examine existing xxx models across xxx.
2. Analyse and discern the requirements needed for the new xxx model through consultation with the Data Management Team and translating stakeholder requirements both internal and external.
3. Advise and assist xxx teams with miscellaneous issues including the limitations of nonstandard xxx, correct coding methods and software troubleshooting.
4. Preparing design documentation through technical feasibility meetings, analysed needs, configuration using data flow diagrams, testing schedules, and debugging of existing xxx model.
5. Develop xxx procedures regarding the integration, configuration and change control of feeder models into the new xxx Model.
6. Lead on model administration including version control documentation, technical compatibility, and new policies and data management.
7. Lead the implementation of the new template xxx Model and capture its possible restrictions.
8. Assist in capturing and modelling the through life costs at xxx in support of the xxx and continue to support Project Teams throughout model maintenance period.
9. Manage relationships with stakeholders and customers in xxx, project teams and the wider xxx ensuring that data management and xxx outputs meet customer expectations and are continually updated as required.
10. Assist with modelling scenarios, analysis, debugging and changes generated in the feeder models through the project/programme model in order to understand the impact of performance, time and cost across sector or platform ‘through-life’.
11. Ensuring correct xxx security classification is adhered to.
12. Provide post implementation support and monitoring technical issues as they arise.
13. Providing technical and process solutions as required during forecast management implementations.
kryt0n to the rescue :)

No AOR yet?
 

thecoldperson

Full Member
Feb 13, 2017
22
0
Thanks a lot for the prompt reply. Appreciate it

Updated version: (have underlined the changes. Please check if this looks perfect)

• Interacting with the clients from service delivery department for requirement gathering
• Identifying the use cases to transform them into logical and technical views thus creating a Business requirement document.
• Customizing the ERP tool and ensuring the system acts accordingly to the constraints of the use Case
• Prepare ,update and present the support documentation for the existing and new interfaces for the support purpose
Preparing and executing the Standard operating procedures taking into account the impact and risks relating to the security of the ERP tool.
• Constantly maintaining the quality of the tool by performing exploratory, user acceptance and integration testing to ensure the tool runs smoothly, effectively and efficiently without taking any downtime.
Facing audit and provide the auditor a walkthrough to the overall process, functionalities of the tool, customizations deployed and maintenance aspects relating to information security.
 

g126

Champion Member
Feb 22, 2016
2,096
156
124
Sao Paulo
Category........
PNP
Visa Office......
São Paulo
NOC Code......
2171
App. Filed.......
27-01-2016
Doc's Request.
16-12-2016
Nomination.....
09-12-2016
AOR Received.
07-01-2017
File Transfer...
18-02-2017
Med's Request
UPFRONT
Med's Done....
15-12-2016
Passport Req..
16-06-2017
VISA ISSUED...
22-06-2017
LANDED..........
09-10-2017

g126

Champion Member
Feb 22, 2016
2,096
156
124
Sao Paulo
Category........
PNP
Visa Office......
São Paulo
NOC Code......
2171
App. Filed.......
27-01-2016
Doc's Request.
16-12-2016
Nomination.....
09-12-2016
AOR Received.
07-01-2017
File Transfer...
18-02-2017
Med's Request
UPFRONT
Med's Done....
15-12-2016
Passport Req..
16-06-2017
VISA ISSUED...
22-06-2017
LANDED..........
09-10-2017
thecoldperson said:
Thanks a lot for the prompt reply. Appreciate it

Updated version: (have underlined the changes. Please check if this looks perfect)

• Interacting with the clients from service delivery department for requirement gathering
• Identifying the use cases to transform them into logical and technical views thus creating a Business requirement document.
• Customizing the ERP tool and ensuring the system acts accordingly to the constraints of the use Case
• Prepare ,update and present the support documentation for the existing and new interfaces for the support purpose
Preparing and executing the Standard operating procedures taking into account the impact and risks relating to the security of the ERP tool.
• Constantly maintaining the quality of the tool by performing exploratory, user acceptance and integration testing to ensure the tool runs smoothly, effectively and efficiently without taking any downtime.
Facing audit and provide the auditor a walkthrough to the overall process, functionalities of the tool, customizations deployed and maintenance aspects relating to information security.
Much better, but instead of "Facing audit and provide the auditor a walkthrough to" consider "Providing auditors (during audit) a walkthrou..."
 

thecoldperson

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Feb 13, 2017
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Thank you for the reply.

1..Is it mandatory to mention the salary on reference letter ?

2.. If yes then, If we mention Gross salary instead of CTC in the reference letter is it okay ?
The reason being i have a proof to show my gross salary as i have a letter from employer with gross salary mentioned on it. However i do not have a letter mentioning my CTC on it. Also i have left that job now so i dont think they will provide me one.
 

g126

Champion Member
Feb 22, 2016
2,096
156
124
Sao Paulo
Category........
PNP
Visa Office......
São Paulo
NOC Code......
2171
App. Filed.......
27-01-2016
Doc's Request.
16-12-2016
Nomination.....
09-12-2016
AOR Received.
07-01-2017
File Transfer...
18-02-2017
Med's Request
UPFRONT
Med's Done....
15-12-2016
Passport Req..
16-06-2017
VISA ISSUED...
22-06-2017
LANDED..........
09-10-2017
thecoldperson said:
Thank you for the reply.

1..Is it mandatory to mention the salary on reference letter ?

2.. If yes then, If we mention Gross salary instead of CTC in the reference letter is it okay ?
The reason being i have a proof to show my gross salary as i have a letter from employer with gross salary mentioned on it. However i do not have a letter mentioning my CTC on it. Also i have left that job now so i dont think they will provide me one.
Yes salary is mandatory, however, not all employers divulgue this so the other option is to include pay slips or job offer letter with salary info. Yes GROSS is fine.
 

bmisvaltoha

Newbie
Jun 6, 2017
6
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"Assisting team members" and "interacting with" means you weren't doing these yourself - since you're only mentioning this for two points no harm in leaving it in there, but try to refrain from saying things that makes you look like a helper or assistant.

Your points 1, 2 and 4 are OK... You may like to give a little more detail, but not too specific otherwise it may look like you only did them ONCE.

For point 3, what is "customizing business area"? I can't understand what you mean and I figure if I can't the officer won't either...

Hello Sir,

I'm going to apply under NOC 2171. I just want to confirm one thing. The job duties for NOC 2171 are given in four points viz. Information Systems business analysts and consultants, Systems security analysts, Information systems quality assurance analysts, Systems auditors.

My job duties are related to first paragraph. Do I have to make 70% job duties match overall or for a single paragraph only?
 

g126

Champion Member
Feb 22, 2016
2,096
156
124
Sao Paulo
Category........
PNP
Visa Office......
São Paulo
NOC Code......
2171
App. Filed.......
27-01-2016
Doc's Request.
16-12-2016
Nomination.....
09-12-2016
AOR Received.
07-01-2017
File Transfer...
18-02-2017
Med's Request
UPFRONT
Med's Done....
15-12-2016
Passport Req..
16-06-2017
VISA ISSUED...
22-06-2017
LANDED..........
09-10-2017
Hello Sir,

I'm going to apply under NOC 2171. I just want to confirm one thing. The job duties for NOC 2171 are given in four points viz. Information Systems business analysts and consultants, Systems security analysts, Information systems quality assurance analysts, Systems auditors.

My job duties are related to first paragraph. Do I have to make 70% job duties match overall or for a single paragraph only?
As a rule of thumb so long as you match 60% of the roles/duties you should be ok.
 
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bmisvaltoha

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As a rule of thumb so long as you match 60% of the roles/duties you should be ok.
Thank you!
One more thing i need to ask. I know its hard to know about everyone's job profile, still I want you to check whether my job duties fall perfectly in NOC 2171. These are as:

1) Liaise between end-users and development team to identify and gather user’s requirements and document them to be implemented in department’s Information System tool XXX

2) Develop functional design to implement new user requirement

3) Provide trainings and conduct seminars to the end-users regarding usage of the tool, its new and updated features and the various services available on the department’s website abc.com

4) Coordinate with the end-users for data collection and its entry in XXX

5) Assist in development of XXX's IT strategies and their execution. Create and update training manuals and policies. Act upfront to consult and provide advice on XXX management

6) Perform data extraction using query processing and analyze data to generate reports

7) Report bugs and technical challenges/glitches to the IT team to get their resolution and improve overall efficacy and quality of XXX application

8) Conduct technical studies about the tool and ensure its successful implementation and integration with Oracle database

9) Assign roles and privileges to the users to ensure data and information system security, integrity and maintain an efficient service delivery

10) Administer the work of all the concerned users and IT Team, assign them tasks, schedule meetings and take follow ups and review the work performed to complete the work in desired timelines. Intimate the Finance and MIS (Management Information System) wing regarding the progress of the project

11) Stay tuned with higher authorities for any updates and ensures integration after the updates are received

12) Install, implement and ensure smooth operation of n-Computing module and provide solutions for troubleshooting including the network issues and software/hardware failures

I will really appreciate the reply.
 

Sai2017

Full Member
Jun 12, 2017
29
2
Portland,OR
Category........
Hi Guys,


I have 4 years of experience as Systems Analyst (NOC 2171). My educational background is, I have masters degree in Industrial and Systems Engineering from a US university and Bachelor's in Mechanical Engineering from India. Would it be a problem as I don't have direct computer science related degree. As part of my masters I had finished database related courses. Would it be a problem during the process. I have to submit documents in a month. Could you please help me on how to proceed on this.



Thanks!