Short hours, would cic or cra even know this?

[Yagerr]

Hi guys,

I read a lot, and clearly know that i can't use a week over hours to cover a week short hours. The thing is that i work for a big empire company which has over 200 branches in canada. I have full time status and regular hours 37.5 hours - 42 hours. There was about 7 weeks exception, first 4 weeks i requested short hour schedule, so i only worked 20 hours per week, and then i had another 3 weeks off. Exception was made when i was having my new born.

Apparently, my total hours worked would be more than enough to cover the missing part. The thing is, would CIC or CRA even notice that, since i was working for the same company, it really depends on how often my company file income taxes, right? if my company file income tax by year, and they would only know the amount of tax was paid, they would not be able to distinguish amount paid by week, right?

 

[Yagerr]

Re: Short hours, would cic or cra even know notice?

In short, would CRA or CIC be able to tell how the tax amount distributed over the year?

Really, i mean, even a full time employee working whole year, there always would be exceptions for
things coming up. How could they possibly expect people working full time whole year without any interuptions.

 

[iamroth]

No, to answer to your question, CIC can not know how many hours you worked in a given week.

They generally rely on the employee reference letter.

I am just wondering, since you are only 7 weeks short (!), why not just work the 7 weeks and make it rock solid?

If, lets say, CIC calls and your company says, you took 4 weeks of short work-hours (almost a month), they are going to refuse you application surely.

 

[iamroth]

I suggest working a few more weeks. 200 cap per NOC B means 200 * 205 = more than 40 000 seats and it wont be reached for a while.

Although don't forget this 40000 is from NOC B alone. Then there is NOC 0 + NOC A.
CIC has only 12000 seats

They will not fill 12000 soon, that is for sure, But eventually it will get filled up.

 

[Yagerr]

Thanks for the entries, guys.

The reason i am not going to work for another 7 weeks before sending the application is that my work permit expires 2 weeks after i reached my 1 year experience. I will send out the application and application for BOWP by mail anyway, and get implied status, worse case scenario, i would have gain solid experience with the additional two month implied status.

 

[Karioca]

If you can get a letter from your HR saying you worked during 1 year full time, it will be enough. You don't need to specify in the letter the hours just that it was full time, and in one f the forms they ask you how many hours per week you worked, and you mention the average, whatever is fine for the requirement.

 

[jes_ON]

There was about 7 weeks exception, first 4 weeks i requested short hour schedule, so i only worked 20 hours per week,

This would result in a 1.3 week difference (round up to 2); 4 weeks * 20 hours = 80 hours; 80 hours / 30 hours per week == 2.7 weeks full-time equivalent


and then i had another 3 weeks off. Exception was made when i was having my new born.

Unpaid leave?

Apparently, my total hours worked would be more than enough to cover the missing part. The thing is, would CIC or CRA even notice that, since i was working for the same company, it really depends on how often my company file income taxes, right? if my company file income tax by year, and they would only know the amount of tax was paid, they would not be able to distinguish amount paid by week, right?

As others have noted, it depends almost entirely on what your employer will write in the letter of employment, and whether that information will correspond with your T4 / Notice of assessment for that year.

 

[jeet patel]

No, to answer to your question, CIC can not know how many hours you worked in a given week.

They generally rely on the employee reference letter.

I am just wondering, since you are only 7 weeks short (!), why not just work the 7 weeks and make it rock solid?

If, lets say, CIC calls and your company says, you took 4 weeks of short work-hours (almost a month), they are going to refuse you application surely.

Thanks for the reply @iamroth . I am in similar situation it helped me. Quick question though, I am only short 2 weeks ( 2 weeks worth of hours since I am adding up hours because of part-time job Noc B). I am short because of on and off schedule due to my minor health issues but I have reference letter from company saying I worked for given duration in weeks. And if questions asked they can justify as well.

Should this be alright?

Thanks in advance.

 

[jes_ON]

I read a lot, and clearly know that i can't use a week over hours to cover a week short hours. The thing is that i work for a big empire company which has over 200 branches in canada. I have full time status and regular hours 37.5 hours - 42 hours. There was about 7 weeks exception, first 4 weeks i requested short hour schedule, so i only worked 20 hours per week, and then i had another 3 weeks off. Exception was made when i was having my new born.

Your part-time work counts - 4 weeks * 20 hours per week = 80 hours, divide by 30 = 2.6 weeks Full-time equivalent.

As for your time off, was that unpaid leave of absence, or vacation time? (Vacation time counts as employment, unpaid leave of absence does not. Parental leave does not).

Apparently, my total hours worked would be more than enough to cover the missing part. The thing is, would CIC or CRA even notice that, since i was working for the same company, it really depends on how often my company file income taxes, right? if my company file income tax by year, and they would only know the amount of tax was paid, they would not be able to distinguish amount paid by week, right?

They will know that your total income for the year is short, as evidenced by your letter of employment and supporting documents (e.g. paystubs, T4, NOA).