lost status

[SuperMarco]

Hi my friends,
I lost my pr status due to the one year of physical residence. I ask your opinion if it is best to give back pr card to can embassy and re apply to pr?
thank you very much

 

[canuck78]

Hi my friends,
I lost my pr status due to the one year of physical residence. I ask your opinion if it is best to give back pr card to can embassy and re apply to pr?
thank you very much

What do you mean by losing your PR? Were you reported?

 

[scylla]

Hi my friends,
I lost my pr status due to the one year of physical residence. I ask your opinion if it is best to give back pr card to can embassy and re apply to pr?
thank you very much

Your question is confusing.

The residency requirement is two years out of every rolling five years (not one year). Have you formally lost PR or do you simply not meet the residency obligation? Is your PR card still valid? Are you in Canada or outside of Canada?

 

[SuperMarco]

Your question is confusing.

The residency requirement is two years out of every rolling five years (not one year). Have you formally lost PR or do you simply not meet the residency obligation? Is your PR card still valid? Are you in Canada or outside of Canada?

Sorry you are right. I respond: outside can / not meet residency obligation / pr not valid/

 

[scylla]

Sorry you are right. I respond: outside can / not meet residency obligation / pr not valid/

Do you have strong H&C reasons for having failed to meet the residency obligation? If so, then applying for a PRTD under H&C may be an option.

If you have a valid US visa, you can also travel to the US and re-enter Canada through a land border and hope you are not reported for failing to meet the residency obligation.

Otherwise, if the above two are not options, you should apply to formally renounce your PR status and then you can reapply for PR under current immigration programs and rules. Note that the points required to be selected are likely much higher now than when you originally applied.

 

[SuperMarco]

Do you have strong H&C reasons for having failed to meet the residency obligation? If so, then applying for a PRTD under H&C may be an option.

If you have a valid US visa, you can also travel to the US and re-enter Canada through a land border and hope you are not reported for failing to meet the residency obligation.

Otherwise, if the above two are not options, you should apply to formally renounce your PR status and then you can reapply for PR under current immigration programs and rules. Note that the points required to be selected are likely much higher now than when you originally applied.

I have H&C it is sincere but you know it s complicated to give proof for every thing and i was told ircc will take two years to respond.
I think i will give back to embassy and reapply, but didn't know point are much higher it is 67 point, so i need to pass english exam etc.

 

[SuperMarco]

Do you have strong H&C reasons for having failed to meet the residency obligation? If so, then applying for a PRTD under H&C may be an option.

If you have a valid US visa, you can also travel to the US and re-enter Canada through a land border and hope you are not reported for failing to meet the residency obligation.

Otherwise, if the above two are not options, you should apply to formally renounce your PR status and then you can reapply for PR under current immigration programs and rules. Note that the points requireope you are not reported for failing to meet the residency obligation.d to be selected are likely much higher now than when you originally applied.

ope you are not reported for failing to meet the residency obligation.=> i have few chance in life so i believe they will catch me

 

[scylla]

I have H&C it is sincere but you know it s complicated to give proof for every thing and i was told ircc will take two years to respond.
I think i will give back to embassy and reapply, but didn't know point are much higher it is 67 point, so i need to pass english exam etc.

It generally will not take IRCC two years to respond. Likely a few months. IRCC generally only accepts certain types of H&C considerations for failing to meet RO. For example, working outside of Canada or being unable to find a job in Canada isn't accepted. Attending school outside of Canada isn't accepted either. On the other hand, if you had an immediate family member who was critically ill and had no one else to take care of them (e.g., you are an only child), that is often accepted as a reason. You can get evidence such as hospitalization records, etc. for the family member impacted.

If you want to renounce PR, you do not go to the embassy. You mail in the application: https://ircc.canada.ca/english/information/applications/guides/5781etoc.asp

You aren't understanding how the 67 points works. This is the FSW points and you must have at least 67 points under this point system to qualify to apply for Express Entry. Whether you are selected under Express Entry will depend on your occupation and how many points you have under the Express Entry points system. It sounds like you need to do additional research. Start reading here: https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/immigrate-canada/express-entry/who-can-apply.html

 

[canuck78]

Do you have strong H&C reasons for having failed to meet the residency obligation? If so, then applying for a PRTD under H&C may be an option.

If you have a valid US visa, you can also travel to the US and re-enter Canada through a land border and hope you are not reported for failing to meet the residency obligation.

Otherwise, if the above two are not options, you should apply to formally renounce your PR status and then you can reapply for PR under current immigration programs and rules. Note that the points required to be selected are likely much higher now than when you originally applied.

Think these days can be closer to a year for a PRTD based on H&C in many locations but would definitely plan for at least 6 months. Still much less than 2 years and given how hard it is to get PR these days probably a good thing to exhaust if you have proof of your H&C circumstances.

 

[SuperMarco]

It generally will not take IRCC two years to respond. Likely a few months. IRCC generally only accepts certain types of H&C considerations for failing to meet RO. For example, working outside of Canada or being unable to find a job in Canada isn't accepted. Attending school outside of Canada isn't accepted either. On the other hand, if you had an immediate family member who was critically ill and had no one else to take care of them (e.g., you are an only child), that is often accepted as a reason. You can get evidence such as hospitalization records, etc. for the family member impacted.

If you want to renounce PR, you do not go to the embassy. You mail in the application: https://ircc.canada.ca/english/information/applications/guides/5781etoc.asp

You aren't understanding how the 67 points works. This is the FSW points and you must have at least 67 points under this point system to qualify to apply for Express Entry. Whether you are selected under Express Entry will depend on your occupation and how many points you have under the Express Entry points system. It sounds like you need to do additional research. Start reading here: https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/immigrate-canada/express-entry/who-can-apply.html

Many thanks for interesting explanations. Please let me respond:
-H&C: yes i have a true family problem of a closed member very ill. I'm afraid that bureaucratic aspects with tons of documents to provide even those you d'ont have and i 'm outside canada because i cannot enter so i need to go to embassy to apply H&C perhaps
-Renounce PR? i dont think so because my card expire one year ago so i don't see anythink about renouncing,, it's already over.
-67 points: sorry, perhaps i don't understand, i read in their website and i know that it's harder to get PR due to immigration restriction but not for other reasons but i maybe wrong.

 

[SuperMarco]

Think these days can be closer to a year for a PRTD based on H&C in many locations but would definitely plan for at least 6 months. Still much less than 2 years and given how hard it is to get PR these days probably a good thing to exhaust if you have proof of your H&C circumstances.

Thank you very much. SO you also think H&C is better but i'm abroad.

 

[scylla]

Many thanks for interesting explanations. Please let me respond:
-H&C: yes i have a true family problem of a closed member very ill. I'm afraid that bureaucratic aspects with tons of documents to provide even those you d'ont have and i 'm outside canada because i cannot enter so i need to go to embassy to apply H&C perhaps
-Renounce PR? i dont think so because my card expire one year ago so i don't see anythink about renouncing,, it's already over.
-67 points: sorry, perhaps i don't understand, i read in their website and i know that it's harder to get PR due to immigration restriction but not for other reasons but i maybe wrong.

You keep mentioning the embassy. You do not apply for anything through the embassy. If you want to apply for a PRTD under H&C, then you submit an application online or complete all of the paperwork and submit to your nearest VAC. You will need to include supporting evidence if you want to apply under H&C. Follow the instructions here. https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/application/application-forms-guides/guide-5529-applying-permanent-resident-travel-document.html

You still need to renounce PR if you want to apply for PR from scratch under Express Entry or another program. Only your PR card has expired, you still have PR status (although you are out of compliance with RO).

If you don't understand the 67 points, you need to do substantially more research to understand how the programs work. No, immigration restrictions are not the only reason it is harder. It is also harder due to the volume of people applying.

You are confused about a lot of things. Suggest you hire an immigration lawyer to help you.

 

[scylla]

Thank you very much. SO you also think H&C is better but i'm abroad.

You apply for a PRTD under H&C from abroad. This is specifically something you do from outside of Canada, not inside of Canada.

I again strongly encourage hiring a lawyer to help you. You are confused about very basic things right now.

 

[SuperMarco]

You apply for a PRTD under H&C from abroad. This is specifically something you do from outside of Canada, not inside of Canada.

I again strongly encourage hiring a lawyer to help you. You are confused about very basic things right now.

Sure, let me see about that possibilty. I read in your link this "You only want to visit Canada and you know you have not met the residency obligations because you have been outside of Canada for a long period of time and You don’t want to wait for a visa officer to assess whether or not you are still a permanent resident of Canada" => i believe that if i want an agent to assess my case, i need to go to embassy.

 

[SuperMarco]

You apply for a PRTD under H&C from abroad. This is specifically something you do from outside of Canada, not inside of Canada.
=> OK; sorry i did know: so i apply from abroad and wait for a decision.
I again strongly encourage hiring a lawyer to help you. You are confused about very basic things right now.