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No point for Canadian Sibling

Eaglesidhu

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Sep 21, 2024
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Hello

Received my GCMS notes and found case analyst haven't included 15 points for Canadian sibling in initial point assessment. Due to this my point assessment falls below cut-off. My brother is a permanent resident and copy of his PR card and residency proof was already submitted with application. Shall I wait for the next officer to pick this error?

Anyone else experienced this or any suggestion?
 

canuck78

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Jun 18, 2017
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Hello

Received my GCMS notes and found case analyst haven't included 15 points for Canadian sibling in initial point assessment. Due to this my point assessment falls below cut-off. My brother is a permanent resident and copy of his PR card and residency proof was already submitted with application. Shall I wait for the next officer to pick this error?

Anyone else experienced this or any suggestion?
is he currently living in Canada?
 

Naturgrl

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Right now, he is not in Canada. He is out for few months to his country of origin. But I have included a latest utility bill under his name to prove his residency status in Canada.
So not living in Canada so points take off were correct. He is not a resident now. The latest utility bill doesn’t prove that he is living here Now.
 
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scylla

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Right now, he is not in Canada. He is out for few months to his country of origin. But I have included a latest utility bill under his name to prove his residency status in Canada.
How long ago did he leave and when is he returning?

A utility bill isn't always sufficient to prove someone is actually living in Canada. Did you provide anything else like proof of employment?
 

Eaglesidhu

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He went to his country of origin to get married. He is gone for 4 months now. He owns a business in Canada and will come back in few weeks.

How long ago did he leave and when is he returning?

A utility bill isn't always sufficient to prove someone is actually living in Canada. Did you provide anything else like proof of employment?
 

scylla

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He went to his country of origin to get married. He is gone for 4 months now. He owns a business in Canada and will come back in few weeks.
Wait until he is back in Canada and then submit a webform with additional evidence of physical residence in Canada. Hopefully he plans to stay once he returns.
 

Eaglesidhu

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Yes he is going to stay in Canada for sure (will apply citizenship soon). I will raise a webform after his arrival.

Also in my Canadian letter of experience, my employer puts a pictured signature instead of original handwritten or digital. Is that a problem too (because I also see another note in GCMS about Canadian employer LOE and website)?


Wait until he is back in Canada and then submit a webform with additional evidence of physical residence in Canada. Hopefully he plans to stay once he returns.
 

scylla

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28-06-2010
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Yes he is going to stay in Canada for sure (will apply citizenship soon). I will raise a webform after his arrival.

Also in my Canadian letter of experience, my employer puts a pictured signature instead of original handwritten or digital. Is that a problem too (because I also see another note in GCMS about Canadian employer LOE and website)?
No idea.
 

canuck78

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No he was not. My e-APR was submitted in November.
So that was misrepresentation and you should have never claimed the points. Contacting IRCC once he is back in the country may not add the points since you applied when he was out of the country to begin with so were never entitled to the points. If you do have to reapply for PR only claim the points if your brother is living in Canada full-time although short holidays are fine.
 

Eaglesidhu

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Leaving country for a short period (for vacations, meeting friends and family, or going back to country of origin for few months) is not prohibited. Permanent resident need to be in Canada for a minimum of 730 days to retain their PR status. If you visit your country of origin after 2 years and spend their 4 months (to spend time with your newly wedded partner) does not makes someone ineligible to claim additional points. My brother owns a business in Canada and soon will apply for citizenship (he has no intention to remain outside of Canada).
 

canuck78

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Leaving country for a short period (for vacations, meeting friends and family, or going back to country of origin for few months) is not prohibited. Permanent resident need to be in Canada for a minimum of 730 days to retain their PR status. If you visit your country of origin after 2 years and spend their 4 months (to spend time with your newly wedded partner) does not makes someone ineligible to claim additional points. My brother owns a business in Canada and soon will apply for citizenship (he has no intention to remain outside of Canada).
Residency requirements for PR and claiming points for family in Canada are not related. Your brother not physically being in Canada when you applied for PR and during the processing period means you don’t currently have family in Canada which is the whole point of the sibling points. If it was based on family having PR you’d only have to submit proof of their PR card. A 4 month absence from Canada is a very long absence from Canada especially if you are not retired. You can certainly try to contact IRCC when he returns but losing the points was justified.