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What will happen if my physical presence is insufficient by one day?

powerssdd

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I am regretting that I may have submitted my citizenship application in haste that my physical presence could be short by one day to the 1095 days requirement.

Now I have paid the fee, and I wonder what will happen if it is indeed the case.

Will I be given a chance to retify it?

Will the application be rejected directly? Will I get a refund?

What if I fill a webform now to withdraw the application? In this case, will I get a full refund?

I submitted it just yesterday, so I haven't received the AOR yet.

I saw some ppl's applications were returned, and they got to resubmit it.
How does this "return" work? Is the "resubmit" free? Or do I have to pay another $530?

Thanks for any help!
 
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forw.jane

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Apr 29, 2019
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I am regretting that I may have submitted my citizenship application in haste that my physical presence could be short by one day to the 1095 days requirement.

Now I have paid the fee, and I wonder what will happen if it is indeed the case.

Will I be given a chance to retify it?

Will the application be rejected directly? Will I get a refund?

What if I fill a webform now to withdraw the application? In this case, will I a full refund?

I submitted it just yesterday, so I haven't received the AOR yet.

I saw some ppl's applications were returned, and they got to resubmit it.
How does this "return" work? Is the "resubmit" fee? Or do I have to pay another $530?

Thanks for any help!
If you withdraw your application before processing begins, you will receive a full refund. However, once processing starts, you will only get $100 back. Your application will be rejected if you fall short of the required 1,095 days. It's best to apply with a buffer, as applications submitted with exactly 1,095 days often undergo extensive scrutiny, leading to delays of several months that could otherwise be avoided.
 

powerssdd

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If you withdraw your application before processing begins, you will receive a full refund. However, once processing starts, you will only get $100 back. Your application will be rejected if you fall short of the required 1,095 days. It's best to apply with a buffer, as applications submitted with exactly 1,095 days often undergo extensive scrutiny, leading to delays of several months that could otherwise be avoided.
The following post says his application was "returned" for the same reason, and he had to resubmit it in 60 days.
It seems that "returned" is different from "rejected", is that correct?
"Returned" happens before AOR, while "rejected" happens after AOR.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ImmigrationCanada/comments/16znda1
 

forw.jane

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The following post says his application was "returned" for the same reason, and he had to resubmit it in 60 days.
It seems that "returned" is different from "rejected", is that correct?
"Returned" happens before AOR, while "rejected" happens after AOR.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ImmigrationCanada/comments/16znda1
If they understand your physical presence is lower then 1095 before AOR it will get returned. But if processing moves ahead and during LPP stage where language, physical presence and Prohibition is validated if they come to know about it, application will be rejected/citizenship denied.
 

powerssdd

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If they understand your physical presence is lower then 1095 before AOR it will get returned. But if processing moves ahead and during LPP stage where language, physical presence and Prohibition is validated if they come to know about it, application will be rejected/citizenship denied.
May I know in what situation will they NOT understand it before AOR?

My situation is that I travelled aboard for 3 or 4 days. I thought it was 3 days when filling the application, but now I realized it could be 4 days.
That is it.

Do you think they will understand it before AOR or not?
 

forw.jane

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May I know in what situation will they NOT understand it before AOR?

My situation is that I travelled aboard for 3 or 4 days. I thought it was 3 days when filling the application, but now I realized it could be 4 days.
That is it.

Do you think they will understand it before AOR or not?
That would happen mostly with paper application. But in your case they need to pull travel dates from CBSA and validate. Should happen during the latest stages of the application processing.
 

armoured

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May I know in what situation will they NOT understand it before AOR?

My situation is that I travelled aboard for 3 or 4 days. I thought it was 3 days when filling the application, but now I realized it could be 4 days.
That is it.

Do you think they will understand it before AOR or not?
I think you need to understand first whether it was three days or four days and whether that means you had enough days or not. That's your responsibility.

My personal opinion is that if you determine you had less than the minimum - withdraw the app and apply again with an explanation about your previous mistake.

IRCC can take quite a while to determine physical presence, i.e. at the very last stage. If so, you've wasted a long time to get it refused. They do not have the discretion to let it proceed to finalization if they determine you've not had enough days (and I think even if they have any doubt) - as of the date of the application you signed, i.e. they cannot include any days after.

Note, any applications that are withdrawn and re-applied get extra scrutiny (even if you explain why you did so). That doesn't mean it will automatically take an extra-long period of time, but some extra time.
 

scylla

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Category........
Visa Office......
Buffalo
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
28-05-2010
AOR Received.
19-08-2010
File Transfer...
28-06-2010
Passport Req..
01-10-2010
VISA ISSUED...
05-10-2010
LANDED..........
05-10-2010
May I know in what situation will they NOT understand it before AOR?

My situation is that I travelled aboard for 3 or 4 days. I thought it was 3 days when filling the application, but now I realized it could be 4 days.
That is it.

Do you think they will understand it before AOR or not?
In most situations applications move forward and are refused at later stages once IRCC has requested more information / post interview.

You need to determine if you have enough days or not now. If you don't have enough days, withdraw the application.