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Citizenship application based on abandend previous application

Kiranmayi

Hero Member
Jul 18, 2013
933
40
Category........
Visa Office......
CPC Ottawa
NOC Code......
2174
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
22-09-2014
Doc's Request.
N/A
Nomination.....
N/A
AOR Received.
02-02-2015
IELTS Request
Send with Application
Med's Done....
15-12-2015 (upfront)
Passport Req..
29-02-2016
VISA ISSUED...
10-03-2016
LANDED..........
16-03-2016
Hi All

Our previous citizenship application was abandoned because we missed a couple of oath ceremony invitations. This happened due to COVID lockdowns and the birth of our child in India, which delayed the sponsorship application process. After returning to Canada, we requested IRCC to give us another chance to take the oath, but they replied that they could not reopen the file and advised us to submit a new application.

We tried reapplying, but the physical presence calculator showed we needed to wait until June 2026. Since we believed our reasons were genuine, we decided to apply earlier with explanation letters about why we missed the oaths for our first application.

We submitted the new application in June 2024, but it was returned as incomplete due to the physical presence requirement. It seemed they didn’t review our explanation letters. We resubmitted the application in October 2024 with another explanation letter.

IRCC accepted the application and requested a PCC from India, which we submitted in November. The background check was completed on December 13, 2024, but we’re still waiting for updates.

We called IRCC today, and the agent said our application is still under review and that they don’t need any additional information from us at the moment. I asked why the status hasn’t been updated to show the PCC was received instead of "Waiting on you," and the agent said to ignore that status as they have received it. When I asked if our application was being treated as non-routine, the agent said it was a general application and still within normal timelines. They also mentioned it’s being processed by the Sydney office and hasn’t been assigned to the local Toronto office yet. I’m wondering why there’s a delay in transferring it to the local office.


@scylla or other seniors, do you have any insights on what might happen?
 

scylla

VIP Member
Jun 8, 2010
96,578
22,641
Toronto
Category........
Visa Office......
Buffalo
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
28-05-2010
AOR Received.
19-08-2010
File Transfer...
28-06-2010
Passport Req..
01-10-2010
VISA ISSUED...
05-10-2010
LANDED..........
05-10-2010
Hi All

Our previous citizenship application was abandoned because we missed a couple of oath ceremony invitations. This happened due to COVID lockdowns and the birth of our child in India, which delayed the sponsorship application process. After returning to Canada, we requested IRCC to give us another chance to take the oath, but they replied that they could not reopen the file and advised us to submit a new application.

We tried reapplying, but the physical presence calculator showed we needed to wait until June 2026. Since we believed our reasons were genuine, we decided to apply earlier with explanation letters about why we missed the oaths for our first application.

We submitted the new application in June 2024, but it was returned as incomplete due to the physical presence requirement. It seemed they didn’t review our explanation letters. We resubmitted the application in October 2024 with another explanation letter.

IRCC accepted the application and requested a PCC from India, which we submitted in November. The background check was completed on December 13, 2024, but we’re still waiting for updates.

We called IRCC today, and the agent said our application is still under review and that they don’t need any additional information from us at the moment. I asked why the status hasn’t been updated to show the PCC was received instead of "Waiting on you," and the agent said to ignore that status as they have received it. When I asked if our application was being treated as non-routine, the agent said it was a general application and still within normal timelines. They also mentioned it’s being processed by the Sydney office and hasn’t been assigned to the local Toronto office yet. I’m wondering why there’s a delay in transferring it to the local office.


@scylla or other seniors, do you have any insights on what might happen?
I don't know.

The only comment I would make is that I wouldn't rely on what the IRCC help desk told you. It's not unusual for them to give out wrong information. I would order your GCMS notes.

I think I've also told you before that you should expect your new application to be refused since I believe you didn't have the 1095 days of residency on the day you submitted your application. There's really no room in the law at all for granting citizenship where the residency requirement has not been met.
 

Kiranmayi

Hero Member
Jul 18, 2013
933
40
Category........
Visa Office......
CPC Ottawa
NOC Code......
2174
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
22-09-2014
Doc's Request.
N/A
Nomination.....
N/A
AOR Received.
02-02-2015
IELTS Request
Send with Application
Med's Done....
15-12-2015 (upfront)
Passport Req..
29-02-2016
VISA ISSUED...
10-03-2016
LANDED..........
16-03-2016
I don't know.

The only comment I would make is that I wouldn't rely on what the IRCC help desk told you. It's not unusual for them to give out wrong information. I would order your GCMS notes.

I think I've also told you before that you should expect your new application to be refused since I believe you didn't have the 1095 days of residency on the day you submitted your application. There's really no room in the law at all for granting citizenship where the residency requirement has not been met.
Thanks for your reply, we thought completing back ground check is a good sign. Rejecting is good sign than keeping us wait for years
 

Kiranmayi

Hero Member
Jul 18, 2013
933
40
Category........
Visa Office......
CPC Ottawa
NOC Code......
2174
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
22-09-2014
Doc's Request.
N/A
Nomination.....
N/A
AOR Received.
02-02-2015
IELTS Request
Send with Application
Med's Done....
15-12-2015 (upfront)
Passport Req..
29-02-2016
VISA ISSUED...
10-03-2016
LANDED..........
16-03-2016
I don't know.

The only comment I would make is that I wouldn't rely on what the IRCC help desk told you. It's not unusual for them to give out wrong information. I would order your GCMS notes.

I think I've also told you before that you should expect your new application to be refused since I believe you didn't have the 1095 days of residency on the day you submitted your application. There's really no room in the law at all for granting citizenship where the residency requirement has not been met.
Should I apply GCMS notes now or wait for sometime?
 

scylla

VIP Member
Jun 8, 2010
96,578
22,641
Toronto
Category........
Visa Office......
Buffalo
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
28-05-2010
AOR Received.
19-08-2010
File Transfer...
28-06-2010
Passport Req..
01-10-2010
VISA ISSUED...
05-10-2010
LANDED..........
05-10-2010
Thanks for your reply, we thought completing back ground check is a good sign. Rejecting is good sign than keeping us wait for years
You should expect a long processing time with a refusal only at the very end. IMO there's no point proceeding with this application and you should withdraw and reapply once you actually qualify. But it's your choice.
 

scylla

VIP Member
Jun 8, 2010
96,578
22,641
Toronto
Category........
Visa Office......
Buffalo
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
28-05-2010
AOR Received.
19-08-2010
File Transfer...
28-06-2010
Passport Req..
01-10-2010
VISA ISSUED...
05-10-2010
LANDED..........
05-10-2010
Should I apply GCMS notes now or wait for sometime?
I would personally withdraw the application since you applied without the required residency days.

Beyond that, I really have no further advice to give.