Residency Obligations after PR card renewal.

[rbhattacharjee]

Hello,
I have been a PR of Canada since 31st May 2020, and right now I'm trying to finish my 730 days of residency obligations, and I plan to renew my PR card before 31st May 2025.
The majority of my 730 days came in the first two years of the PR, as I was staying and working in Canada. However, after the first 2 years, I moved in with my wife who lives in the united states, and that is where we currently live.

I wanted to renew my PR card so that we can still have Canada as a backup in case we decide to move to Canada at some point, and I figured we would have 5 more years to make that decision.
what I am not sure about is,if I do renew my PR cardin May 2025, and then continue to stay in the US. My 730 days RO will not be satisfied as the 5 year window moves from may 2020.
In that case, say after 2-3 years we do end up deciding to move to Canada, or say even travel to Canada occasionally, will I be denied entry and my PR be revoked? or can I say still move in in 2028 and then settle their permanently?

thank you

 

[armoured]

what I am not sure about is,if I do renew my PR cardin May 2025, and then continue to stay in the US. My 730 days RO will not be satisfied as the 5 year window moves from may 2020.
In that case, say after 2-3 years we do end up deciding to move to Canada, or say even travel to Canada occasionally, will I be denied entry and my PR be revoked? or can I say still move in in 2028 and then settle their permanently?

At any time, whether in compliance or not, you can come to the border and be admitted, valid card or not.

However: out of compliance, you can be reported for that, at any time you cross, which (simplifying somewhat) starts the process of revoking permanently your PR status (subject to appeal, etc).

Bluntly, it's not meant to be a backup solution where you reside somewhere else and decide whether you like it or not. Fall out of compliance, you face the risk of losing PR status.

While you can be let in while out of compliance without being reported, you won't be able to sponsor a spouse, may have issues with documentation for things like health care, etc UNTIL you have accumulated the 730 days in most recent five years. And travelling frequently may not be realistic (new PR card required to board planes back to Canada), which for many people is not compatible with work, family, lifestyles, etc.

Up to you of course.

 

[scylla]

Hello,
I have been a PR of Canada since 31st May 2020, and right now I'm trying to finish my 730 days of residency obligations, and I plan to renew my PR card before 31st May 2025.
The majority of my 730 days came in the first two years of the PR, as I was staying and working in Canada. However, after the first 2 years, I moved in with my wife who lives in the united states, and that is where we currently live.

I wanted to renew my PR card so that we can still have Canada as a backup in case we decide to move to Canada at some point, and I figured we would have 5 more years to make that decision.
what I am not sure about is,if I do renew my PR cardin May 2025, and then continue to stay in the US. My 730 days RO will not be satisfied as the 5 year window moves from may 2020.
In that case, say after 2-3 years we do end up deciding to move to Canada, or say even travel to Canada occasionally, will I be denied entry and my PR be revoked? or can I say still move in in 2028 and then settle their permanently?

thank you

The resident obligation does not reset when you renew your PR card. The residency obligation is ongoing / rolling and the expiry date on your PR card is essentially irrelevant. At any given time, you must be able to look back at the previous five years and meet the residency obligation.

 

[Besram]

Hello,
I have been a PR of Canada since 31st May 2020, and right now I'm trying to finish my 730 days of residency obligations, and I plan to renew my PR card before 31st May 2025.
The majority of my 730 days came in the first two years of the PR, as I was staying and working in Canada. However, after the first 2 years, I moved in with my wife who lives in the united states, and that is where we currently live.

I wanted to renew my PR card so that we can still have Canada as a backup in case we decide to move to Canada at some point, and I figured we would have 5 more years to make that decision.
what I am not sure about is,if I do renew my PR cardin May 2025, and then continue to stay in the US. My 730 days RO will not be satisfied as the 5 year window moves from may 2020.
In that case, say after 2-3 years we do end up deciding to move to Canada, or say even travel to Canada occasionally, will I be denied entry and my PR be revoked? or can I say still move in in 2028 and then settle their permanently?

thank you

Just adding to the other posts above in case this isn't clear:

If you apply for a PR card this year, make sure you do have 730 days of presence in Canada prior to applying, otherwise there is a significant chance you will lose your PR.

If you manage to renew your PR card this year, you will have a better chance of retaining your PR status for longer, simply because a valid PR card raises fewer red flags at the border than not having a PR card. But as others above have said, fulfilling the residency obligation is independent of having a PR card. People with valid PR cards can and do get reported at the border for not fulfilling their RO, and subsequently lose their status.

 

[canuck78]

Also very common to have to come pick up a new PR card in person when living abroad and at that time you typically do an interview where your RO is reassessed again. If your RO days are primarily from the beginning of the 5 year period you may have already become noncompliant with your RO when you have to pick up the PR card in person.

 

[rbhattacharjee]

Also very common to have to come pick up a new PR card in person when living abroad and at that time you typically do an interview where your RO is reassessed again. If your RO days are primarily from the beginning of the 5 year period you may have already become noncompliant with your RO when you have to pick up the PR card in person.

I was planning to have the PR card mailed to a relative of mine, who would then ship it to me in the states. Will that not be the case?

 

[steaky]

I was planning to have the PR card mailed to a relative of mine, who would then ship it to me in the states. Will that not be the case?

What if there's no PR card in the mail, but, instead a letter that requires you to pick up the new PR card in person?

 

[rbhattacharjee]

Does that happen?

 

[Besram]

Does that happen?

Yes, especially if they suspect that you do not live in Canada or there are question marks about your compliance with the RO.

 

[steaky]

Does that happen?

As @canuck78 said, it's very common.

 

[rbhattacharjee]

I would definitely would be compliant with the RO when I file for the renewal.

 

[canuck78]

I would definitely would be compliant with the RO when I file for the renewal.

You have to remain compliant when you pick up your PR card.