New PR card application 2 years after soft landing

[rooks1rookie]

Hello , I got a Canadian PR with express entry back in 2022. I’m working in the US on H1B Initial 1-time visa was issued from June - Oct 2022. I did a soft landing in Sept 2022 , signed my CoPR, for 10 days then went back to the US . I have since used the CoPR to make 2 more short trips (about 10 days) back to Canada via the land border in my car. I’m now planning on permanently moving but I don’t have a lease agreement or anything yet , plan to stay with friends for a while . I want to apply for a new PR card since I didn’t get one with my soft landing . The application is asking for Residency obligation proof .
"If you have been a permanent resident for less than five (5) years - you must show that you will be able to meet the minimum of 730 days of physical presence in Canada within five (5) years of the date you became a permanent resident."

Has anyone faced anything similar and has a knowledge on this ? All advice is greatly appreciated ! Thank you

 

[dpenabill]

Hello , I got a Canadian PR with express entry back in 2022. I’m working in the US on H1B Initial 1-time visa was issued from June - Oct 2022. I did a soft landing in Sept 2022 , signed my CoPR, for 10 days then went back to the US . I have since used the CoPR to make 2 more short trips (about 10 days) back to Canada via the land border in my car. I’m now planning on permanently moving but I don’t have a lease agreement or anything yet , plan to stay with friends for a while . I want to apply for a new PR card since I didn’t get one with my soft landing . The application is asking for Residency obligation proof .
"If you have been a permanent resident for less than five (5) years - you must show that you will be able to meet the minimum of 730 days of physical presence in Canada within five (5) years of the date you became a permanent resident."

Has anyone faced anything similar and has a knowledge on this ? All advice is greatly appreciated ! Thank you

For a PR who landed less than three years ago, just the date of landing, date of card application, the calendar, and arithmetic will sufficiently document you are in compliance with the RO. Just submit two pieces of evidence showing you are in Canada (could include a letter from friend) to avoid the checklist triggering non-routine processing and it should go OK.

 

[rooks1rookie]

For a PR who landed less than three years ago, just the date of landing, date of card application, the calendar, and arithmetic will sufficiently document you are in compliance with the RO. Just submit two pieces of evidence showing you are in Canada (could include a letter from friend) to avoid the checklist triggering non-routine processing and it should go OK.

I plan on applying in person at a center . What kind of evidences could I attach ?
Thank you !

 

[scylla]

I plan on applying in person at a center . What kind of evidences could I attach ?
Thank you !

There are no in person applications. You apply online.

https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/new-immigrants/pr-card/how-to-apply.html

 

[rooks1rookie]

There are no in person applications. You apply online.

https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/new-immigrants/pr-card/how-to-apply.html

Oh I see .
1. could I not just walk into the ServiceCan center at Windsor when I drive from the USA to Canada and have it done there ?
2. Any recommendations on what kind of documents I need to upload to show residency obligation ?

 

[scylla]

Oh I see .
1. could I not just walk into the ServiceCan center at Windsor when I drive from the USA to Canada and have it done there ?
2. Any recommendations on what kind of documents I need to upload to show residency obligation ?

1. No. Service Canada is not IRCC. They do not process PR cards.
2. See the response you received earlier. You don't need to show evidence of compliance just something to show you are living in Canada now.

 

[rooks1rookie]

1. No. Service Canada is not IRCC. They do not process PR cards.
2. See the response you received earlier. You don't need to show evidence of compliance just something to show you are living in Canada now.

Okay , sorry I think I need to clarify a bit more -
1. My plan is to move shortly but I was hoping to go once and apply for the PR card in the middle before coming back , wrapping up my US affairs and moving permanently so that the work of the card is in progress . Should I not attempt to do that then ? Just wait till I move , have some apartment lease to show as proof and then apply ?
2. I plan to have my current US company move me over to Canada , would I not need an actual PR card and SIN to get started with the work in Canada ?

Thank you again for your help !

 

[dpenabill]

Okay , sorry I think I need to clarify a bit more -
1. My plan is to move shortly but I was hoping to go once and apply for the PR card in the middle before coming back , wrapping up my US affairs and moving permanently so that the work of the card is in progress . Should I not attempt to do that then ? Just wait till I move , have some apartment lease to show as proof and then apply ?
2. I plan to have my current US company move me over to Canada , would I not need an actual PR card and SIN to get started with the work in Canada ?

I do not have much to offer in regards to the logistics of the employment transfer except to say yes, you need to get your Canadian Social Insurance Number (SIN) and, last I knew, you will need a valid PR card to get that.

You do not need to actually be living IN Canada when you make the PR card application. But you need to be physically located IN Canada when you submit the application, and you need an address you can honestly say is your residential address in Canada. You can use a friend's address for this as long as that is indeed where you plan to be staying until you find and move into a more permanent residence.

The pieces of evidence you include are no big deal. Anything that shows you in Canada.

. . . this is not so much to prove you are in Canada but so you can honestly check off the checklist box that you have enclosed evidence of residency in Canada, just to satisfy the formality of making a complete application. Again, for a PR who landed less than three years ago just the fact there are enough days left on the calendar to meet the RO is sufficient to establish RO compliance.​

. . . in this circumstance, the evidence of residency is just about evidence about being in Canada, not necessarily about residing in Canada; maybe include a letter of explanation that you are in the process of moving to Canada from the U.S.​

This should sail through easily as long as you properly complete and submit the application. Should be NO NEED to get assistance from a lawyer. So I am hesitant to even mention using a lawyer. However, there is at least one lawyer I know who has described helping PRs living in the U.S. get their PR card as a significant part of his practice. In addition to an office in Canada, I believe this lawyer, Amandeep Hayer (see https://hayerlawoffice.ca/ for website), also has an office in Colorado in the U.S. (he was a recent guest on the Borderlines podcast, brought to the forum's attention by @armoured, in which he briefly described the process). But again, you should not need much help doing this. Since it has been less than three years since you landed, this really should go easily.

 

[rooks1rookie]

I do not have much to offer in regards to the logistics of the employment transfer except to say yes, you need to get your Canadian Social Insurance Number (SIN) and, last I knew, you will need a valid PR card to get that.

You do not need to actually be living IN Canada when you make the PR card application. But you need to be physically located IN Canada when you submit the application, and you need an address you can honestly say is your residential address in Canada. You can use a friend's address for this as long as that is indeed where you plan to be staying until you find and move into a more permanent residence.

The pieces of evidence you include are no big deal. Anything that shows you in Canada.

. . . this is not so much to prove you are in Canada but so you can honestly check off the checklist box that you have enclosed evidence of residency in Canada, just to satisfy the formality of making a complete application. Again, for a PR who landed less than three years ago just the fact there are enough days left on the calendar to meet the RO is sufficient to establish RO compliance.​

. . . in this circumstance, the evidence of residency is just about evidence about being in Canada, not necessarily about residing in Canada; maybe include a letter of explanation that you are in the process of moving to Canada from the U.S.​

This should sail through easily as long as you properly complete and submit the application. Should be NO NEED to get assistance from a lawyer. So I am hesitant to even mention using a lawyer. However, there is at least one lawyer I know who has described helping PRs living in the U.S. get their PR card as a significant part of his practice. In addition to an office in Canada, I believe this lawyer, Amandeep Hayer (see https://hayerlawoffice.ca/ for website), also has an office in Colorado in the U.S. (he was a recent guest on the Borderlines podcast, brought to the forum's attention by @armoured, in which he briefly described the process). But again, you should not need much help doing this. Since it has been less than three years since you landed, this really should go easily.

This is very helpful , thank you.
There was information on another site that the Border officers would apply it if I told them I was moving permanently. Is that something that you know about?

Thanks