Studying in Canada for US citizen kids

[haziqpathan]

My spouse and I are Canada permanent residents currently in India. We have 2 school going kids here in India of age 16 and 14 respectively. Both our kids are US citizens by birth so don't need a Visa or PR to enter Canada.

We plan to move to Canada next summer. We have the following queries:
1. In order to get admitted to a school, is there a study permit required for US citizen students?
2. If yes, whether are we able to apply prior to entering Canada or we should enter Canada and then get a study permit to get school admission.
3. What is the process of applying for Study permit whether outside or inside Canada?
4. Also since we plan to stay long term, is it recommended applying a PR for the kids?

Can someone please guide us on this matter.

 

[Naturgrl]

My spouse and I are Canada permanent residents currently in India. We have 2 school going kids here in India of age 16 and 14 respectively. Both our kids are US citizens by birth so don't need a Visa or PR to enter Canada.

We plan to move to Canada next summer. We have the following queries:
1. In order to get admitted to a school, is there a study permit required for US citizen students?
2. If yes, whether are we able to apply prior to entering Canada or we should enter Canada and then get a study permit to get school admission.
3. What is the process of applying for Study permit whether outside or inside Canada?
4. Also since we plan to stay long term, is it recommended applying a PR for the kids?

Can someone please guide us on this matter.

1. Yes. They aren’t PR so don’t have status in Canada.
2. Get study permits before you enter Canada.
3. No difference. Go on the IRCC to apply.
4. If they are staying in Canada long term, get their PR. They will not have access to health insurance or social services until PR so make sure they have private insurance. You cannot apply until you are in Canada so expect about a year for processing.

 

[canuck78]

What grade will your children be entering? Do you meet your RO? Both will have big impacts on the answer? What province are you moving to?

 

[haziqpathan]

What grade will your children be entering? Do you meet your RO? Both will have big impacts on the answer? What province are you moving to?

My children will be entering in Grade 10 and 11 respectively, so we have atleast a year before then enter college. We are planning to move to Ontario. Can you clarify what do you mean by RO ?

 

[haziqpathan]

1. Yes. They aren’t PR so don’t have status in Canada.
2. Get study permits before you enter Canada.
3. No difference. Go on the IRCC to apply.
4. If they are staying in Canada long term, get their PR. They will not have access to health insurance or social services until PR so make sure they have private insurance. You cannot apply until you are in Canada so expect about a year for processing.

Appreciate your reply. For the Study permit, i believe Letter of acceptance from a school will be needed. Can we get it while we are outside Canada? What are the typical processing times for a Study permit and how long are they valid for ?

 

[Naturgrl]

Appreciate your reply. For the Study permit, i believe Letter of acceptance from a school will be needed. Can we get it while we are outside Canada? What are the typical processing times for a Study permit and how long are they valid for ?

You don’t need LOA for minors. Study permit can be applied outside Canada. Don’t know about validity but may need to renewed depending on if you apply for their PR. Not sure about international fees but if not PR by post secondary then they will need to pay international fees. Check IRCC processing times (google it) on the site RO is residency obligation so that is from when landed as PR and how long you have spent in Canada.

Why didn’t you include them in your application in the first place so they would have access to healthcare, education etc.

 

[canuck78]

My children will be entering in Grade 10 and 11 respectively, so we have atleast a year before then enter college. We are planning to move to Ontario. Can you clarify what do you mean by RO ?

Residency obligation. When did you land as a PR and how many days have you spent in Canada since landing if less than 5 years?

 

[haziqpathan]

You don’t need LOA for minors. Study permit can be applied outside Canada. Don’t know about validity but may need to renewed depending on if you apply for their PR. Not sure about international fees but if not PR by post secondary then they will need to pay international fees. Check IRCC processing times (google it) on the site RO is residency obligation so that is from when landed as PR and how long you have spent in Canada.

Why didn’t you include them in your application in the first place so they would have access to healthcare, education etc.

Ok. I'll check for the study permit application process for minors.

I became PR on June 2020 and have spent a total of 1 year 7 months in Canada until now. Hence the plan is move to Canada before expiration of my current PR, complete the required 2 years and apply for extension when I enter next year. Does this have any impact on applying PR for my kids?

I didn't include them with my spousal PR application as we didn't have plans for the kids to come and study in Canada. We wanted them to move directly to the US as adults and pursue their college/university there. But now we all plan to move to Canada and stay until we become citizens.

 

[haziqpathan]

Residency obligation. When did you land as a PR and how many days have you spent in Canada since landing if less than 5 years?

I became PR on June 2020 and have spent a total of 1 year 7 months in Canada until now. Hence the plan is move to Canada before expiration of my current PR, complete the required 2 years and apply for extension when I enter next year. In parallel, I would apply for my kids PR

 

[Naturgrl]

Ok. I'll check for the study permit application process for minors.

I became PR on June 2020 and have spent a total of 1 year 7 months in Canada until now. Hence the plan is move to Canada before expiration of my current PR, complete the required 2 years and apply for extension when I enter next year. Does this have any impact on applying PR for my kids?

I didn't include them with my spousal PR application as we didn't have plans for the kids to come and study in Canada. We wanted them to move directly to the US as adults and pursue their college/university there. But now we all plan to move to Canada and stay until we become citizens.

So you will not meet RO upon entry into Canada. So to meet RO you must be “physically present in Canada” at least 730 days in every 5-year period preceding your application. So you cannot renew your PR until you meet RO.

 

[scylla]

I became PR on June 2020 and have spent a total of 1 year 7 months in Canada until now. Hence the plan is move to Canada before expiration of my current PR, complete the required 2 years and apply for extension when I enter next year. In parallel, I would apply for my kids PR

You'll want to move sooner to avoid being out of compliance with RO. RO is calculated from your landing date and not the expiry date on your PR card. Based on a June landing date and how long you have lived in Canada to date, I believe this means you would be looking at a January move date to avoid being out of compliance.

 

[canuck78]

When did your spouse land and how many days did she spend in Canada?

 

[haziqpathan]

So you will not meet RO upon entry into Canada. So to meet RO you must be “physically present in Canada” at least 730 days in every 5-year period preceding your application. So you cannot renew your PR until you meet RO.

Yes, am aware of that . My plan is to enter Canada before my PR expiration, complete RO requirements and then extend my PR
But meanwhile I should still be able to apply PR for my kids right?

 

[haziqpathan]

You'll want to move sooner to avoid being out of compliance with RO. RO is calculated from your landing date and not the expiry date on your PR card. Based on a June landing date and how long you have lived in Canada to date, I believe this means you would be looking at a January move date to avoid being out of compliance.

Though my PR was issued in June 2020, my PR card expiration date is Jan 2026. I was considering moving to Canada in June 2025 and complete the remaining 5 months before my PR card expires. Won't that work?

 

[haziqpathan]

When did your spouse land and how many days did she spend in Canada?

My spouse landed in May 2023 and her PR expires in Jun 2028. She has stayed in Canada for just a month, but she has much more time thean me