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jennyk

Newbie
Dec 18, 2023
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Hello- I am looking for some (somewhat urgent!) help from folks. I was in Vietnam at the end of 2014 / early 2015 (7 1/2 months) and IRCC has flagged that I need to obtain a police certificate. I am not Vietnamese and online information I've seen seems to say that I need to go to Vietnam in-person to obtain the certificate since I need the Judicial Certificate #2 or Criminal Record Certificate #2 (Phieu Ly Lich Tu Phap So 2)?

Has anyone had any experience with this? Can I get this certificate without going to Vietnam? I'm currently working in Canada, and not really able to get over there...

Thanks in advance for any help you're able to provide!
 
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Snowy786

Newbie
Jan 15, 2024
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Hi Jenny

I am in the same boat as you. My husband needs to get a Vietnam PCC. Have you had any luck? We tried to contact the Vietnam Embassy but no response. The agents in Vietnam say they cannot help the expats anymore unless they come in person to Vietnam and stay there for 20 days which is next to impossible. Please let me know if you find a way out. Thanks
 
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abff08f4813c

Full Member
Feb 24, 2023
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I know it's a bit old, but are the instructions listed in https://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/threads/urgent-vietnam-police-certificate.404067/page-2#post-7490695 out of date? These seem to match what IRCC recommends in https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/application/medical-police/police-certificates/how/vietnam.html (abeit with some extra steps like getting consular notarization) and there's another confirmation at https://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/threads/pcc-from-vietnam.506704/#post-8241352

I've seen elsewhere, e.g. https://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/threads/addtion-document-request-vietnam-pcc.825052/ that folks try to contact the embassy and get no response - having no experience with them, I'm wondering how hard is to show up at the embassy in Canada and ask someone in person. The other thing might be that times went beyond two weeks post covid to get this, so even if everything works, it now just takes forever and no one updates you in the meantime?

At least you can send IRCC evidence you are applying for one and get an extension.
 
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jennyk

Newbie
Dec 18, 2023
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I ended up emailing a bunch of people at embassies + consulates and finally was told I needed to ask the Vietnamese National Center of Criminal Records about what the process is for applying for the certificate (ttlltpqg@moj.gov.vn per the IRCC page - https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/application/medical-police/police-certificates/how/vietnam.html; the IRCC page is now a little clearer than when I was applying which didn't distinguish non-Vietnamese nationals living outside Vietnam). A Vietnamese neighbour was able to help me request the certificate via email, but the centre never replied (I had multiple followups). I ended up writing a letter of explanation outlining my efforts to try and get the certificate and I attached evidence of my emails. My application is pending and I don't know if the explanation letter is sufficient or not, so that's nerve-wracking to say the least. I'm in a waiting state now.
 
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Empress Riful

Newbie
Apr 19, 2024
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jennyk said:
I ended up emailing a bunch of people at embassies + consulates and finally was told I needed to ask the Vietnamese National Center of Criminal Records about what the process is for applying for the certificate (ttlltpqg@moj.gov.vn per the IRCC page - https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/application/medical-police/police-certificates/how/vietnam.html; the IRCC page is now a little clearer than when I was applying which didn't distinguish non-Vietnamese nationals living outside Vietnam). A Vietnamese neighbour was able to help me request the certificate via email, but the centre never replied (I had multiple followups). I ended up writing a letter of explanation outlining my efforts to try and get the certificate and I attached evidence of my emails. My application is pending and I don't know if the explanation letter is sufficient or not, so that's nerve-wracking to say the least. I'm in a waiting state now.
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I ended up travelling to Vietnam to get my PCC myself with the help of an agent, went back to Canada after and wait for its release. Hopefully by 3rd week of May the document is ready with English translation. I did the pricey option but I still wonder that maybe going personally to Vietnam consulate in Ontario is a better option. I'm currently in Saskatchewan by the way.
 
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immigrant_pulsar

Full Member
Dec 29, 2017
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jennyk said:
I ended up emailing a bunch of people at embassies + consulates and finally was told I needed to ask the Vietnamese National Center of Criminal Records about what the process is for applying for the certificate (ttlltpqg@moj.gov.vn per the IRCC page - https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/application/medical-police/police-certificates/how/vietnam.html; the IRCC page is now a little clearer than when I was applying which didn't distinguish non-Vietnamese nationals living outside Vietnam). A Vietnamese neighbour was able to help me request the certificate via email, but the centre never replied (I had multiple followups). I ended up writing a letter of explanation outlining my efforts to try and get the certificate and I attached evidence of my emails. My application is pending and I don't know if the explanation letter is sufficient or not, so that's nerve-wracking to say the least. I'm in a waiting state now.
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Hello, I wonder if your letter of explanation was accepted by IRCC? I'm in a similar situation, getting no response from National Center of Criminal Records and agents telling me I need to travel back to Vietnam to apply for police certificate, which is not easy. I'm in Canada btw and need it for citizenship application.

Looking forward to hear from you
 
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jennyk

Newbie
Dec 18, 2023
3
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immigrant_pulsar said:
Hello, I wonder if your letter of explanation was accepted by IRCC? I'm in a similar situation, getting no response from National Center of Criminal Records and agents telling me I need to travel back to Vietnam to apply for police certificate, which is not easy. I'm in Canada btw and need it for citizenship application.

Looking forward to hear from you
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They asked me to try again with Vietnam. I ended up calling the number listed on the IRCC site in June for the National Center and they told me that IRCC had their email wrong and gave me the correct information. To call their number, you should buy an international phone card at London Drugs (or elsewhere), since when I tried calling from multiple Canadian phone plans the phone's weren't connecting ( phone cards are pretty cheap, too). Someone picked up in English pretty quickly. The National Center will then send you instructions. It took me ~6 weeks from receiving the instructions to have my application package received by the National Center. I also contacted the National Center several times by phone so my correspondence wouldn't be forgotten/ to ask them questions. My application isn't finished in Vietnam yet, so I'm not sure if it'll take a really long time, get lost in the mail on the way back, etc.
 
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Empress Riful

Newbie
Apr 19, 2024
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I just want to update you guys that I'm already PR. Got the final decision last June and recently received our PR card.
Empress Riful said:
I ended up travelling to Vietnam to get my PCC myself with the help of an agent, went back to Canada after and wait for its release. Hopefully by 3rd week of May the document is ready with English translation. I did the pricey option but I still wonder that maybe going personally to Vietnam consulate in Ontario is a better option. I'm currently in Saskatchewan by the way.
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immigrant_pulsar

Full Member
Dec 29, 2017
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jennyk said:
They asked me to try again with Vietnam. I ended up calling the number listed on the IRCC site in June for the National Center and they told me that IRCC had their email wrong and gave me the correct information. To call their number, you should buy an international phone card at London Drugs (or elsewhere), since when I tried calling from multiple Canadian phone plans the phone's weren't connecting ( phone cards are pretty cheap, too). Someone picked up in English pretty quickly. The National Center will then send you instructions. It took me ~6 weeks from receiving the instructions to have my application package received by the National Center. I also contacted the National Center several times by phone so my correspondence wouldn't be forgotten/ to ask them questions. My application isn't finished in Vietnam yet, so I'm not sure if it'll take a really long time, get lost in the mail on the way back, etc.
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Thank you and wish you all the best with the application. Can you share the correct email for the National Center in Vietnam please. This will help me a lot :)
 
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Empress Riful

Newbie
Apr 19, 2024
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immigrant_pulsar said:
Thank you and wish you all the best with the application. Can you share the correct email for the National Center in Vietnam please. This will help me a lot :)
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Sorry, I don't have any other email address known from them aside from the one published on the site. I too didn't get an email reply from them. However, I still got my PCC after I taking a short trip to Vietnam, as I've mentioned in this thread above.
 
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