Should I apply for a new PR Card?

[scylla]

Dear Members,

Life keeps preparing new surprises.

Now, I am meeting the RO but my company wants to assign me to the London office in the UK. I am currently working in the Montreal office.

So here is the question,

If I renew my PR card and go to the UK, can I still count days towards citizenship? My company is an American FinTech company operating almost everywhere in the world, it is not a Canadian company.

What would you suggest to do in such a case?

The time outside of Canada will not count towards citizenship. Even if the company was Canadian, it still would not count.

 

[anshul_prusty]

No.

I suggest you decide which is more important at this stage in your life: your career/job, or your desire to obtain Canadian citizenship.

Thank you for the response. I’ll stay in Canada to get my citizenship. There will always be opportunities everywhere in the world.

Thanks again.

 

[anshul_prusty]

The time outside of Canada will not count towards citizenship. Even if the company was Canadian, it still would not count.

Thank you so much for your response.

 

[anshul_prusty]

Dear Members,

I am aware that it is highly strongly recommended to have a buffer after meeting the RO before applying for a PR card renewal. For example, I stayed in Canada for 14 days back in 2020 and then have moved to Canada permanently on the 1st of July 2022. I meet the residency obligation now and planning to apply for a PR Card renewal on the 15th of July this year. If I consider my 14 days in 2020 too, I’ll have a total buffer of 1 month on the 15th of July. Do you think it’s enough? Should I apply even later? Any ideas?

I appreciate your usual support and valuable recommendations.

 

[YVR123]

Dear Members,

I am aware that it is highly strongly recommended to have a buffer after meeting the RO before applying for a PR card renewal. For example, I stayed in Canada for 14 days back in 2020 and then have moved to Canada permanently on the 1st of July 2022. I meet the residency obligation now and planning to apply for a PR Card renewal on the 15th of July this year. If I consider my 14 days in 2020 too, I’ll have a total buffer of 1 month on the 15th of July. Do you think it’s enough? Should I apply even later? Any ideas?

I appreciate your usual support and valuable recommendations.

If you are pretty sure about the days that you have put into the form and you meet RO, then 1 month buffer is ok.
It's for people who takes long trips all the time and one trip for them could be more than 1 month.

 

[dpenabill]

I am aware that it is highly strongly recommended to have a buffer after meeting the RO before applying for a PR card renewal. For example, I stayed in Canada for 14 days back in 2020 and then have moved to Canada permanently on the 1st of July 2022. I meet the residency obligation now and planning to apply for a PR Card renewal on the 15th of July this year. If I consider my 14 days in 2020 too, I’ll have a total buffer of 1 month on the 15th of July. Do you think it’s enough? Should I apply even later? Any ideas?

I appreciate your usual support and valuable recommendations.

Of course it is a good idea to be certain to actually meet the PR Residency Obligation, so to the extent a PR is not confident they are completely and accurately reporting all dates of exit from Canada and all dates entering Canada, it is a good idea to wait long enough to cover any doubts . . . but completely and accurately reporting the travel dates is by far more important.

I seem to be among a small minority in the forum who do not think a buffer makes much difference in how it goes in processing a PR card application. Other factors have a lot, lot more influence in:

(1) whether the application is subject to non-routine processing and consequently it takes significantly longer than the currently posted processing times (currently 75 days), and​

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(2) whether IRCC challenges the number of days credit the PR claims​

Ten or thirty or sixty days more than two years is still way less than living in Canada even half the time. So the more important, more influential factors relate to whether there is cause to doubt the completeness or accuracy of the PR's report of travel history.

Among the more salient factors looming much larger than buffer days:

-- accuracy of information provided by the PR (inconsistencies, discrepancies, omissions, or incongruities will, of course, elevate the risk of further inquiry or even formal investigation)​

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-- extent to which it is clear (or not) the PR is currently PERMANENTLY settled in Canada (typically as seen in the PR's pattern of work, address, and travel history)​

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-- travel outside Canada after applying inconsistent with continuing to maintain a permanent home in Canada​

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-- any history of issues or potential inadmissibility concerns​

Note: it appears you have history which seems likely to invite increased scrutiny. Hard to say what effect, if any, this will have on how long it takes to get a new PR card. Obviously, if you leave Canada for an extended period of time after making the PR card application that is likely to significantly increase the risk of non-routine complex case processing or possibly even skepticism about your version of days in Canada.

 

[anshul_prusty]

If you are pretty sure about the days that you have put into the form and you meet RO, then 1 month buffer is ok.
It's for people who takes long trips all the time and one trip for them could be more than 1 month.

Thank you much for your response! I’ll apply next week and we’ll see

 

[anshul_prusty]

Of course it is a good idea to be certain to actually meet the PR Residency Obligation, so to the extent a PR is not confident they are completely and accurately reporting all dates of exit from Canada and all dates entering Canada, it is a good idea to wait long enough to cover any doubts . . . but completely and accurately reporting the travel dates is by far more important.

I seem to be among a small minority in the forum who do not think a buffer makes much difference in how it goes in processing a PR card application. Other factors have a lot, lot more influence in:

(1) whether the application is subject to non-routine processing and consequently it takes significantly longer than the currently posted processing times (currently 75 days), and​

​

(2) whether IRCC challenges the number of days credit the PR claims​

Ten or thirty or sixty days more than two years is still way less than living in Canada even half the time. So the more important, more influential factors relate to whether there is cause to doubt the completeness or accuracy of the PR's report of travel history.

Among the more salient factors looming much larger than buffer days:

-- accuracy of information provided by the PR (inconsistencies, discrepancies, omissions, or incongruities will, of course, elevate the risk of further inquiry or even formal investigation)​

​

-- extent to which it is clear (or not) the PR is currently PERMANENTLY settled in Canada (typically as seen in the PR's pattern of work, address, and travel history)​

​

-- travel outside Canada after applying inconsistent with continuing to maintain a permanent home in Canada​

​

-- any history of issues or potential inadmissibility concerns​

Note: it appears you have history which seems likely to invite increased scrutiny. Hard to say what effect, if any, this will have on how long it takes to get a new PR card. Obviously, if you leave Canada for an extended period of time after making the PR card application that is likely to significantly increase the risk of non-routine complex case processing or possibly even skepticism about your version of days in Canada.

Thank you for all the information you have provided. They could investigate and dig in more to make sure if I meet the RO but no matter how hard they investigate they’ll end up with the fact that I am meeting the RO. So, at worst the processing time could be longer than expected. Would you see any other risk in this case? My current PR Card was expired in January this year btw.

 

[Besram]

Thank you for all the information you have provided. They could investigate and dig in more to make sure if I meet the RO but no matter how hard they investigate they’ll end up with the fact that I am meeting the RO. So, at worst the processing time could be longer than expected. Would you see any other risk in this case? My current PR Card was expired in January this year btw.

If you are certain about your dates and that they add up to more than 730 days of presence in Canada in the last 5 years immediately before applying, then the only risk (if any) is that the processing time could be longer. But as @dpenabill mentioned above, even this is far from certain. There are reports of people who have applied with a minimal buffer and got their card in less than two weeks.

 

[anshul_prusty]

If you are certain about your dates and that they add up to more than 730 days of presence in Canada in the last 5 years immediately before applying, then the only risk (if any) is that the processing time could be longer. But as @dpenabill mentioned above, even this is far from certain. There are reports of people who have applied with a minimal buffer and got their card in less than two weeks.

Thanks a lot for your response