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syale

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I am asking these questions because navigating the Government Canada site on immigration is very challenging for me.
  • I am a UK citizen.
  • My wife is a Canadian citizen.
  • We both have permanent residency (green card) in the US.
  • I am retiring next year and we want to live in Canada to be close to my wife's father who is elderly. Timeline is 6 months from now to move to Canada.
  • What are our steps to achieve this?
I take it that I need a visa to live there as a retiree whilst I pursue permanent residency (From what I understand I cannot apply for permanent residency until I live there 3 years out of 5 years)?
Can my wife sponsor my visa?
What steps do I need to take and can we start the process from the US?
As my wife has not lived there for over 22 years can she still get MCP
Can I take any advantage of MCP or do I need to get my own health insurance?

Stephen
 

armoured

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Feb 1, 2015
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I take it that I need a visa to live there as a retiree whilst I pursue permanent residency (From what I understand I cannot apply for permanent residency until I live there 3 years out of 5 years)?
Can my wife sponsor my visa?
What steps do I need to take and can we start the process from the US?
As my wife has not lived there for over 22 years can she still get MCP
Can I take any advantage of MCP or do I need to get my own health insurance?
-As a Brit, you only need an electronic travel authorization to visit (like a visa but for visa waiver countries, apply online, costs a few bucks and takes a few minutes). No sponsorship needed for this, but you also have no status apart from as a visitor and no eligibility for health care, to work, etc.
-Your spouse applies to sponsor you to become a permanent resident:
https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/immigrate-canada/family-sponsorship/spouse-partner-children.html

Takes from six to 18 months, 12 or so as roughly the period in which 'most will be done' (ie. only complicated files should take longer).

You can apply now, before you move to Canada, but your citizen-spouse will be required to show evidence of 'intent to return' (plans, preparations, etc - things like place to live, preps for how to do so, finances, etc.) As retirees, obviously employment may not be part of your preps, show anything - whatever you will need to do to retire properly.

If she applies to sponsor you from within Canada, i.e. after you move, that's fine, just delayed start of the processing. You enter Canada as a visitor with leave to stay for six months (typically), you can apply to extend if needed (usually granted but cross that bridge when you come to it).

You can come to Canada before your PR status is approved, you'd just arrive as a visitor; the formal process to become a PR can be done within Canada after.

The obligation to reside in Canada eg 2 years in five (3 in five to become a citizen) only applies after becoming a PR, not before.

Your wife will be eligible as a citizen for health insurance as soon as she 'moves' to reside. Since you refer to MCP, presume you mean BC. In most provinces, a requirement is that a person arriving must remain resident for eg 150-odd days of 180, and days-in-Canada requirements thereafter (importnat for you both if you will be spending time outside of Canada and/or travelling a lot).

You will probably not be eligible until you become a PR but you'll have to check under BC rules. You definitely should have health insurance to cover emergencies etc in the interim. If you are close to the border and you're still covered by US healthcare, you might find it easier to cross the border for some regular stuff; or your US healthcare might cover what you need in Canada for a period of time, but you'll have to check.
 

scylla

VIP Member
Jun 8, 2010
95,798
22,077
Toronto
Category........
Visa Office......
Buffalo
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
28-05-2010
AOR Received.
19-08-2010
File Transfer...
28-06-2010
Passport Req..
01-10-2010
VISA ISSUED...
05-10-2010
LANDED..........
05-10-2010
I am asking these questions because navigating the Government Canada site on immigration is very challenging for me.
  • I am a UK citizen.
  • My wife is a Canadian citizen.
  • We both have permanent residency (green card) in the US.
  • I am retiring next year and we want to live in Canada to be close to my wife's father who is elderly. Timeline is 6 months from now to move to Canada.
  • What are our steps to achieve this?
I take it that I need a visa to live there as a retiree whilst I pursue permanent residency (From what I understand I cannot apply for permanent residency until I live there 3 years out of 5 years)?
Can my wife sponsor my visa?
What steps do I need to take and can we start the process from the US?
As my wife has not lived there for over 22 years can she still get MCP
Can I take any advantage of MCP or do I need to get my own health insurance?

Stephen
You're completely misunderstaning the 3 to 5 year rule. This is for people who are already PRs and need to maintain PR. This doesn't apply to your situation.

There is no retirement visa.

Your wife needs to sponsor you for PR: https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/application/application-forms-guides/guide-5289-sponsor-your-spouse-common-law-partner-conjugal-partner-dependent-child-complete-guide.html

Processing times for spousal sponsorship are around 10-12 months.

There are two ways for your wife to sponsor you.

Your wife can sponsor you from outside of Canada. However the fact she hasn't lived in Canada for 22 years creates challenges. As part of submitting the application, she will need to provide hard evidence that you will be relocating to Canada once your visa is approved. Generally hard evidence is things like property ownership, assets held in Canada, job offer in Canada, etc. I'm not sure if it's realistic for her to prove this.

Alternatively, she can apply to sponsor you for PR in six months once you are both in Canada. If you apply from Canada, there will be no need to show evidence that you plan to move to Canada.

Note that there will most likely be a period of time when you are in Canada without any health care coverage since you will only be here as a visitor. Make sure you take out private insurance to cover yourself for emergencies.

Also note that you'll end up losing your US green card status. But I'm assuming that doesn't matter to you.
 

syale

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Oct 21, 2018
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Thanks so much for the prompt answers. Province is NL (Newfoundland) I am visiting now so I have an ETA and am aware of this process. I will have US social security after I retire next year which has Medicare, and I may have to think hard about getting parts C and D as I would be in Canada. I would probably pay for a private plan in Canada until time that I qualify for MCP.

If I arrive as a visitor but am in the process of getting PR, what do I tell immigration officer on arrival, visiting family for 6 months or do I indicate I am pursuing PR through my wife?

You have been so helpful, thanks again!
Stephen
 
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syale

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Oct 21, 2018
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Alternatively, she can apply to sponsor you for PR in six months once you are both in Canada. If you apply from Canada, there will be no need to show evidence that you plan to move to Canada.

Note that there will most likely be a period of time when you are in Canada without any health care coverage since you will only be here as a visitor. Make sure you take out private insurance to cover yourself for emergencies.

Also note that you'll end up losing your US green card status. But I'm assuming that doesn't matter to you.
Great information. Green card, not bothered about losing it, We have a trailer and can visit the US as a visitor for up to 6 months but that would come later after Canadian PR is achieved.

Yes I need to find private health care for me.

We are looking at properties so it would be in our best interest to apply after we get here.

Stephen
 

canuck78

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Jun 18, 2017
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Great information. Green card, not bothered about losing it, We have a trailer and can visit the US as a visitor for up to 6 months but that would come later after Canadian PR is achieved.

Yes I need to find private health care for me.

We are looking at properties so it would be in our best interest to apply after we get here.

Stephen
Would do your research and see if you can find private healthcare. Physicians have to prioritize those with provincial healthcare and those there is a huge shortage of healthcare workers in Canada but especially in NL. Are you over 65?
 

scylla

VIP Member
Jun 8, 2010
95,798
22,077
Toronto
Category........
Visa Office......
Buffalo
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
28-05-2010
AOR Received.
19-08-2010
File Transfer...
28-06-2010
Passport Req..
01-10-2010
VISA ISSUED...
05-10-2010
LANDED..........
05-10-2010
Great information. Green card, not bothered about losing it, We have a trailer and can visit the US as a visitor for up to 6 months but that would come later after Canadian PR is achieved.

Yes I need to find private health care for me.

We are looking at properties so it would be in our best interest to apply after we get here.

Stephen
If you have further questions once you start the actual process, post them to the Family Sponsorship section of the forum (not here). Discussions around spousal sponsorship are all in the Family Sponsorship section.
 
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armoured

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If I arrive as a visitor but am in the process of getting PR, what do I tell immigration officer on arrival, visiting family for 6 months or do I indicate I am pursuing PR through my wife?
Would generally start with statement that it is a visit.

Once you apply for PR, they will know about this as at border. While this topic can get complicated, would suggest that the main things are: 1) don't lie; 2) don't arrive at border with all worldly belongings; 3) say that you expect to visit and travel back and forth until you get PR status finalized, but that spouse is settling to take care of parents, and that you'll always leave Canada when required. You can even joke you'll have to go back to US to see doctors.

Hopefully they won't make an issue of any of this (really no cause to).
 
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syale

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Oct 21, 2018
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Would do your research and see if you can find private healthcare. Physicians have to prioritize those with provincial healthcare and those there is a huge shortage of healthcare workers in Canada but especially in NL. Are you over 65?
I am 65 in January and am aware via family members of the acute shortage of healthcare workers here in NL. The only real medication I need to be prescribed currently is for blood pressure.