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Notice to appear for a proceeding

canada449

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Hello,

I passed my hearing months ago and applied for PR online. I currently hold NOD as proof of status in Canada. But last week I got Notice to appear for a proceeding letter. What is this letter? Is it related to PR application?
 

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Hello,

I passed my hearing months ago and applied for PR online. I currently hold NOD as proof of status in Canada. But last week I got Notice to appear for a proceeding letter. What is this letter? Is it related to PR application?
This is unusual. It is not related to the PR process as far as I know.

Who is the letter from? CBSA?

Is there anything unusual or complex about your application?
 

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canada449

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Letter title is "Notice to Appear for a Proceeding Under Subsection 44(2)". I already had successful refugee claim so there is no hearing anymore. I don't know why I received this. I shouldn't have hearing after the successful one.
 

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Bornlucky

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Letter title is "Notice to Appear for a Proceeding Under Subsection 44(2)". I already had successful refugee claim so there is no hearing anymore. I don't know why I received this. I shouldn't have hearing after the successful one.
This is an admissibility hearing and would only intersect with the refugee determination if you have some sort of serious inadmissibility like criminality, for example.

Such a finding could cause a clawback of the positive Protected Person determination.

"What one hand giveth the other may taketh away."

Section 98 of IRPA provides that a person referred to in section E or F of Article 1 of the Refugee Convention is not a Convention refugee or a person in need of protection.

Article 1F, set out in the schedule to IRPA, reads as follows:

F. The provisions of this Convention shall not apply to any person with respect to whom there are serious reasons for considering that:
  1. he has committed a crime against peace, a war crime, or a crime against humanity, as defined in the international instruments drawn up to make provision in respect of such crimes;
  2. he has committed a serious non-political crime outside the country of refuge prior to his admission to that country as a refugee;
  3. he has been guilty of acts contrary to the purposes and principles of the United Nations.
Maybe it's all just a big mistake.
 

canada449

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:oops::oops:

it looks like it is a serious problem. I will let my lawyer take a look at that. Also another legal sections are used in the letter.

-The basis for the proceeding is a report submitted under paragraph 41(a) 20(1)(a). I checked that and didnt understand much.
 

Bornlucky

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:oops::oops:

it looks like it is a serious problem. I will let my lawyer take a look at that. Also another legal sections are used in the letter.

-The basis for the proceeding is a report submitted under paragraph 41(a) 20(1)(a). I checked that and didnt understand much.
It's a good idea to speak with your lawyer but it actually looks like it may not be serious.

Usually this is the basis for the issuance of a conditional removal order when someone initially makes a claim for Protected Person status.

In most instances, if I am correct, this comes before a decision on the refugee claim because the "condition" is that the removal order disappears with a positive finding of Protected Person status.

This would be like adding cream to a coffee that you've already drank.
 

canada449

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The letter actually includes copy of a paper that I signed when I am making a refugee claim. Title is the same but only the section number is different which is 44(1) on the copy. But the second letter I mentioned here looks like an unordinary letter that calls me to CBSA location for interview or hearing. I asked my refugee friends, none of them got that kind of CBSA interview letter after the hearing. Something on my PR application must have triggered this letter I think. I will get my NOD and go to the CBSA location and see what happens.