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I left Canada as a minor out of my will and I do not meet the residency obligation

Moah4901

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When I was 16 in august 5th 2017, my entire family left Canada and to djibouti is where we left to. my mother had only stayed with us for 6 months and left with my other brother back to canada. my mother and 2 of my other brothers have remained their residency status but i didnt. We came to Canada in 2009 because we were refugees escaping a civil war in Somalia thus we had seeked asylum and gained status as refugees in 2009. I lived in Canada from June 2009 to August 5th, 2017. I went to elementary school, middle school, and high school there. But since 2017, I haven't lived in Canada anymore. My permanent resident status, which I got in June 2016, expired around 2020 or 2021. I am not sure entirely. My main issue is that i havent remained my status and do not meet the residency obligation anymore as it has been almost 5 years since i havent lived in canada.

When I left Canada, I was still young, and my mom wanted me to stay in Djibouti for various reasons. Because I was a minor, I didn't understand much about my legal status or how to take care of things on my own. I've been living outside of Canada for almost 5 years now. Even though I see myself as someone with permanent resident status in Canada and I want to go back, I couldn't do it because I was young and didn't have the resources.

Currently, my mom and two of my brothers live in Canada, I really want to return to Canada and live there. I don't meet the residency requirement anymore, but I think I could still have a chance to go back under humanitarian and compassionate grounds. I've spent a significant part of my life in Canada, have family and friends there, but unfortunately, I couldn't complete my residency requirement because I had to leave as a minor against my will.

My question is, can I return to Canada, and what kind of help can I get? I have the time and resources to go back.
 

Naturgrl

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If anyone can provide with any information it would be helpful
This is a volunteer forum so answers take time. Since your PR expired, you will need to apply for a PRTD. Can’t say if it will be refused or approved. Did you return to the country you claimed asylum from? If so that may be taken into consideration. Your family returned and felt safe to return and live.

Or if you have a US visa, cross at a land border. Do you have a SIN card?

If your mother and brother maintained residency then why did you not? You say you were taken against your will but your family members have maintained residency.
 

Moah4901

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I did not return to Somalia that’s where I seeked asylum from to which I should add I don’t have any other passport. I don’t have a SIN.

to clarify my mother is a religious women and she believed I would straighten up and do better to wisen Up in my religion. The entire time I lived in Djibouti I was accompanied by my uncle who insisted that it was impossible for me to return to Canada and I was manipulated. The whole time I was in Djibouti i really did a lot and saved up a lot and did wonders just to get the resources i need to go back to Canada. Only know I have saved up a considerable amount of money to go back. My question is if anyone might know what are the possible steps. I don’t meet the residency obligation that means I can’t sign up for PRTD, I can’t go through the US because I don’t have a passport. My only identification the PR card.
 

Naturgrl

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I did not return to Somalia that’s where I seeked asylum from to which I should add I don’t have any other passport. I don’t have a SIN.

to clarify my mother is a religious women and she believed I would straighten up and do better to wisen Up in my religion. The entire time I lived in Djibouti I was accompanied by my uncle who insisted that it was impossible for me to return to Canada and I was manipulated. The whole time I was in Djibouti i really did a lot and saved up a lot and did wonders just to get the resources i need to go back to Canada. Only know I have saved up a considerable amount of money to go back. My question is if anyone might know what are the possible steps. I don’t meet the residency obligation that means I can’t sign up for PRTD, I can’t go through the US because I don’t have a passport. My only identification the PR card.
Applying for PRTD is your only option then. You apply from PRTD when your PR card has expired. Do you have any documentation - passport, expired PR card. You need documentation to apply. Given your situation, I would hire a Canadian immigration lawyer to do this for you. It will cost a lot of money but it will be done properly. However this probably is not an option for you.

https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/new-immigrants/pr-travel-document.html
 
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Moah4901

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Is hiring a lawyer my only option? i don’t mind how much i have to pay because myself and friends back in Canada are invested in this situation to bring me back as I am in dire need to do so. I only see that there is no real way of returning to Canada if applying for a PRTD is the only option, only way it can get approved is with a valid PR.
 

Naturgrl

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Is hiring a lawyer my only option? i don’t mind how much i have to pay because myself and friends back in Canada are invested in this situation to bring me back as I am in dire need to do so. I only see that there is no real way of returning to Canada if applying for a PRTD is the only option, only way it can get approved is with a valid PR.
PRTD is for people who have expired PR. That is the whole point of a PRTD those who don’t have valid PR. If you have a valid PR, you could travel to Canada now. You may have a case for H&C grounds. If you and friends can pay a lawyer then suggest you do. It may be up to $10,000 (may be more).

If you want to try and fill out all the forms in the link, then see if you can. If you don’t have proper documentation (passport, expired PR card, documentation for H&C), then a lawyer may be able to help with paperwork.
 

Moah4901

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Sep 7, 2021
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PRTD is for people who have expired PR. That is the whole point of a PRTD those who don’t have valid PR. If you have a valid PR, you could travel to Canada now. You may have a case for H&C grounds. If you and friends can pay a lawyer then suggest you do. It may be up to $10,000 (may be more).

If you want to try and fill out all the forms in the link, then see if you can. If you don’t have proper documentation (passport, expired PR card, documentation for H&C), then a lawyer may be able to help with paperwork.
my pr card is expired and I don’t meet the residency obligation but I do understand it doesn’t mean that I lost my pr status and it’s still valid. What I saw on the IRCC website is that only those that meet their residency obligation can apply for PRTD unless I am incorrect on that manner. I also saw applying on the H&C grounds means I must wait 2-3 years before the application is even is accepted is that true ? Does that mean I have to be outside of Canada for 2-3 more years
 

Naturgrl

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my pr card is expired and I don’t meet the residency obligation but I do understand it doesn’t mean that I lost my pr status and it’s still valid. What I saw on the IRCC website is that only those that meet their residency obligation can apply for PRTD unless I am incorrect on that manner. I also saw applying on the H&C grounds means I must wait 2-3 years before the application is even is accepted is that true ? Does that mean I have to be outside of Canada for 2-3 more years
PRTD with H&C is your only option. Processing can take time, yes. Can’t comment on length but you cannot enter Canada until PRTD is approved so yes, it could be many months. You really need a lawyer as this is a complicated case, and don’t think you have a passport or any documentation.
 

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When I was 16 in august 5th 2017, my entire family left Canada and to djibouti is where we left to. my mother had only stayed with us for 6 months and left with my other brother back to canada. my mother and 2 of my other brothers have remained their residency status but i didnt. We came to Canada in 2009 because we were refugees escaping a civil war in Somalia thus we had seeked asylum and gained status as refugees in 2009. I lived in Canada from June 2009 to August 5th, 2017. I went to elementary school, middle school, and high school there. But since 2017, I haven't lived in Canada anymore. My permanent resident status, which I got in June 2016, expired around 2020 or 2021. I am not sure entirely. My main issue is that i havent remained my status and do not meet the residency obligation anymore as it has been almost 5 years since i havent lived in canada.

When I left Canada, I was still young, and my mom wanted me to stay in Djibouti for various reasons. Because I was a minor, I didn't understand much about my legal status or how to take care of things on my own. I've been living outside of Canada for almost 5 years now. Even though I see myself as someone with permanent resident status in Canada and I want to go back, I couldn't do it because I was young and didn't have the resources.

Currently, my mom and two of my brothers live in Canada, I really want to return to Canada and live there. I don't meet the residency requirement anymore, but I think I could still have a chance to go back under humanitarian and compassionate grounds. I've spent a significant part of my life in Canada, have family and friends there, but unfortunately, I couldn't complete my residency requirement because I had to leave as a minor against my will.

My question is, can I return to Canada, and what kind of help can I get? I have the time and resources to go back.
Your only option is to apply for a PRTD with H&C considerations and indicate that you were removed from Canada as a minor.

You can do this yourself or with a lawyer.
 

scylla

VIP Member
Jun 8, 2010
95,810
22,089
Toronto
Category........
Visa Office......
Buffalo
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
28-05-2010
AOR Received.
19-08-2010
File Transfer...
28-06-2010
Passport Req..
01-10-2010
VISA ISSUED...
05-10-2010
LANDED..........
05-10-2010
my pr card is expired and I don’t meet the residency obligation but I do understand it doesn’t mean that I lost my pr status and it’s still valid. What I saw on the IRCC website is that only those that meet their residency obligation can apply for PRTD unless I am incorrect on that manner. I also saw applying on the H&C grounds means I must wait 2-3 years before the application is even is accepted is that true ? Does that mean I have to be outside of Canada for 2-3 more years
You cannot apply for PR under H&C. To apply for PR under H&C, you must physically be in Canada and also not a PR.

Again, the right thing to apply for in your case is a PRTD with H&C considerations: https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/application/application-forms-guides/guide-5529-applying-permanent-resident-travel-document.html
 

canuck78

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When I was 16 in august 5th 2017, my entire family left Canada and to djibouti is where we left to. my mother had only stayed with us for 6 months and left with my other brother back to canada. my mother and 2 of my other brothers have remained their residency status but i didnt. We came to Canada in 2009 because we were refugees escaping a civil war in Somalia thus we had seeked asylum and gained status as refugees in 2009. I lived in Canada from June 2009 to August 5th, 2017. I went to elementary school, middle school, and high school there. But since 2017, I haven't lived in Canada anymore. My permanent resident status, which I got in June 2016, expired around 2020 or 2021. I am not sure entirely. My main issue is that i havent remained my status and do not meet the residency obligation anymore as it has been almost 5 years since i havent lived in canada.

When I left Canada, I was still young, and my mom wanted me to stay in Djibouti for various reasons. Because I was a minor, I didn't understand much about my legal status or how to take care of things on my own. I've been living outside of Canada for almost 5 years now. Even though I see myself as someone with permanent resident status in Canada and I want to go back, I couldn't do it because I was young and didn't have the resources.

Currently, my mom and two of my brothers live in Canada, I really want to return to Canada and live there. I don't meet the residency requirement anymore, but I think I could still have a chance to go back under humanitarian and compassionate grounds. I've spent a significant part of my life in Canada, have family and friends there, but unfortunately, I couldn't complete my residency requirement because I had to leave as a minor against my will.

My question is, can I return to Canada, and what kind of help can I get? I have the time and resources to go back.
How old are you at the moment?