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JoacRy

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Hi all, need your help please.

From my signature you can see my timeline. Basically like so many others on this forum my status is in 'Limbo'. I know 2 friends (husband & wife) who applied in Dec 2021 (not on this forum) and I was shocked and disappointed to learn that they completed their Oath ceremony yesterday. How can this be? What happened to first come first serve? I applied almost 3 months before them.

Anyway what do you think of getting an immigration lawyer to write a letter stating that even though processing time now is 26 months, when I applied in Oct 2021 it was 12 months. Do you think my application will be sped up in processing if immigration gets the letter from the Immigration Lawyer? Is there anything else I can do?

Thanks for all who answer
(Fed up, frustrated, & disappointed in the system)
 

dpenabill

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From my signature you can see my timeline. Basically like so many others on this forum my status is in 'Limbo'. I know 2 friends (husband & wife) who applied in Dec 2021 (not on this forum) and I was shocked and disappointed to learn that they completed their Oath ceremony yesterday. How can this be? What happened to first come first serve? I applied almost 3 months before them.

Anyway what do you think of getting an immigration lawyer to write a letter stating that even though processing time now is 26 months, when I applied in Oct 2021 it was 12 months. Do you think my application will be sped up in processing if immigration gets the letter from the Immigration Lawyer? Is there anything else I can do?

Thanks for all who answer
(Fed up, frustrated, & disappointed in the system)
"I know 2 friends (husband & wife) who applied in Dec 2021 (not on this forum) and I was shocked and disappointed to learn that they completed their Oath ceremony yesterday."​

How do your friends feel about you being disappointed they have become Canadian citizens? Perhaps they are former friends now?

It's not a race, by the way. No need or call to resent someone else, friend or stranger, getting to take the oath and become a citizen. Frankly, I'd think that "congratulations" would be the favourable response.

"How can this be? What happened to first come first serve? I applied almost 3 months before them."​

First-in, first-served, applies to particular queues. How long a particular application takes to be processed at any particular step can vary, and vary considerably. There is a new queue at each step in the process.

EXAMPLE:
Applications are opened and screened for completeness in the order that they arrive. But then some applications will take longer to proceed through the completeness screening step. This can depend, for example, on what information may need to be cross-checked and verified to see that the application meets the requirements to be put "in process." So applications will take different amounts of time for this step to be completed and the application to be referred to the next step. Moreover there are multiple steps in this, the processing done at the CPC-Sydney offices, so how long it takes for particular applications to finally be referred to a local office can vary considerably.​
When the application is actually referred to the local office that determines that applications place in the queue for local office processing. Does not matter what date the application arrived at CPC-Sydney; the application is in queue based on the date it is referred to the local office. So, even at this early stage of processing, some applications will be arriving at the local office later than applications filed after them. The latter are now, at the local office, ahead in the queue and the first-in, first-served applies based on the order in which the applications have arrived at the local office.​

So, as applications proceed from one step to another, there is the potential for this or that application to end up behind others in the next queue, arriving at the next step later than some applications that were previously behind them in the queue. There are multiple steps and potentially various paths in processing in the local office, so there is the potential again for this or that application to take longer in any given step which can add up and put some applications well behind, in the processing timeline, than others.

"Anyway what do you think of getting an immigration lawyer to write a letter stating that even though processing time now is 26 months, when I applied in Oct 2021 it was 12 months. Do you think my application will be sped up in processing if immigration gets the letter from the Immigration Lawyer? Is there anything else I can do?"​

It is hard to say, in the individual case, how much can be gained by various means of prodding IRCC, ranging from webform and call centre inquiries to contacting the applicant's MP, from making an ATIP request for information such as GCMS records up to paying many hundreds of dollars (perhaps into the thousands) to have a lawyer make a mandamus demand to process the application (a prerequisite to filing an action in the Federal Court seeking a Writ of Mandamus ordering IRCC to process the application). There are numerous topics here about efforts to spur accelerated processing, both in regards to individual applications, and in regards to activism to push IRCC to improve its processing timeline overall.

The published timelines are no more than general descriptions of how long it has taken to process most applications in the past. They are not binding. They are not enforceable. They do not really say much at all about how long it will take a particular individual application. In particular, the fact that the published timeline was 12 months when you applied means nothing . . . especially in the wake of Covid.

For more insight into when it is time to proactively engage in efforts to prod processing, probably a good idea to follow reports about processing timelines accessible through this forum, and peruse the experiences reported here. But, again, it is hard to say, in the individual case, how much can be gained by various means of prodding IRCC.
 

Husseinwahab

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Sep 9, 2022
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It is same my case, i applied last September 2021 when the processing time was 12 months and on march 2022 they updated the processing time to 27 months

i know applicants submitted in jan, feb and march 2022 and they got the oath

This is not fair and there is obviously discrimination in processing requests

I sent 3 urgent processing via webform regarding serious illness of my dad with no avail, always send reply telling you how to send urgent requeat. Any way now am filling everything and gonna charge them if something happen to my dad
 

Husseinwahab

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Sep 9, 2022
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I passed the exam last July 2022 so well that I became ready to teach it to people. I loved the history of Canada and wished to be a hero in the adventures I studied, but now I see the opposite in what I see in the Ministry of Immigration, who have mercy for any humanitarian situation they face.
 

xuan

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2 friends? and you are shocked and disapointed ?
you should be happy for them! positivity bring positivity and vice-versa!
 

akbardxb

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It is same my case, i applied last September 2021 when the processing time was 12 months and on march 2022 they updated the processing time to 27 months

i know applicants submitted in jan, feb and march 2022 and they got the oath

This is not fair and there is obviously discrimination in processing requests

I sent 3 urgent processing via webform regarding serious illness of my dad with no avail, always send reply telling you how to send urgent requeat. Any way now am filling everything and gonna charge them if something happen to my dad
You will be wasting your time and resources. Citizenship application under process does not mean you cannot travel. By all means travel and visit your family.
 
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Husseinwahab

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Sep 9, 2022
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You will be wasting your time and resources. Citizenship application under process does not mean you cannot travel. By all means travel and visit your family.
How can i travel when your passport is expired and i’m refugee in very bad government in the world which is lebanon government that are hating palestian

moreover my pr is expired,

then tell me how can i travel please
 

akbardxb

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How can i travel when your passport is expired and i’m refugee in very bad government in the world which is lebanon government that are hating palestian

moreover my pr is expired,

then tell me how can i travel please
Valid points, unfortunately, there is not much that you have in your control. Refugees travelling back has been discussed extensively in other threads. You may want to go through some of the issues raised there.
 

TIGER123

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Jan 24, 2019
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Well, at this point of life, our patience is being tested to the max. we are (were) in the same boat, we need to support each other cause everything has its own time. Congratulate those who have become citizens with a grateful heart cause our turn is coming too. Clearly, IRCC is not doing first come first serve basis only God ALONE knows how do they work. Be thankful my dear fellow Canadians (future Canadians), we are all permanent residents in this country. Look at the rest of the world.. they are worse than us to the max. No food, no money, no home, war-torn countries, drought, hunger and many more problems. let us take a moment of silence, take a deep breath and be thankful..
 

Husseinwahab

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Sep 9, 2022
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Well, at this point of life, our patience is being tested to the max. we are (were) in the same boat, we need to support each other cause everything has its own time. Congratulate those who have become citizens with a grateful heart cause our turn is coming too. Clearly, IRCC is not doing first come first serve basis only God ALONE knows how do they work. Be thankful my dear fellow Canadians (future Canadians), we are all permanent residents in this country. Look at the rest of the world.. they are worse than us to the max. No food, no money, no home, war-torn countries, drought, hunger and many more problems. let us take a moment of silence, take a deep breath and be thankful..
Thank you for your advice brother

do you know brother am a pr since November 2014 and i did not care for renewing the pr and also i did not apply for citizenship when i completed the 1095 because i was busy in working and taking care of my family

i didn’t found time to fill papers because i hate asking many questions and filling papers
 

Fatme2009

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May 14, 2021
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How can i travel when your passport is expired and i’m refugee in very bad government in the world which is lebanon government that are hating palestian

moreover my pr is expired,

then tell me how can i travel please
Apply for travel document I guess bro I been waiting since 2019 so just wait have no choice
 

Husseinwahab

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Sep 9, 2022
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Even travel document not working if i wanna go to my back country

i wondering why they are keeping the application fucking pending for long time

they should care for humanity feeling especially when they have family and kids

fuck them all bro