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SatNight

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It was uncommon for the Above-500 Club to get that many people in two weeks. Probably a batch of people graduated or obtained another year of work experience.
Is the assumption that this won't be a norm?

I wish I had old statistics about CRS scores. Are they available anywhere? (How many people were in the pool 2 weeks ago, 4 weeks ago...)
 
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guys, im in a weird fucked up situation.
My EE profile will expire on the 21st of july, the next draw, "IF" it happened, it will be on the 20th of july, another big fucking "IF" i get an ITA, it will be one day before my profile expires, what should I do ? create a new EE profile now or wait and see ?
if i get an ITA, would my EE profile continue to expire on the 21st or not ? does that mean i should accept it right way or what ? i'm confused
I would recommend creating a new profile. Keep in mind that the profile expires one day before the date you created it. What I mean is: If I created my profile on June 20 2021, it would have expired on June 19 2022. Hopefully you've accounted for this.

Regarding age of profiles, you have to play the probability. The likelihood of the score being exactly 529 is lower than it being any number above or below it. 529 is kind of precarious because it does happen to be in the area I anticipate the next draw to be. But my intuition tells me if the draw happens two weeks from now (remember this is a BIG if), then the score will be below 529. If they skip a draw to have FST or CEC, it'll be higher. In fact if they skip a draw and the FSW draw happens after 4 weeks, it is likely the score will be HIGHER than 557.

If I were in your position, I'd make a new profile ASAP. 1 day after the draw is cutting it too close because we don't know how IRCC treats timezones for profile age. Imagine the smell if you qualify but your prfile expired because you didn't account for timezones the same way they did. Make a new profile, worst case is you have to wait a bit longer for ITA. IMO that's the safer bet.

Also profile is locked (scores, age etc) after AOR i believe. No matter how prepared you are, you will not go from ITA to AOR in 1 day. It is impossible.
 
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Between the last PNP draw and today, it seems like there were around 750 more people above 501. Not sure about those over 600 (are all listed currently new? I believe there are 669 of them). These 750 plus 669 is over 1400. If this trend of how many new people is added in two weeks continues, and if they continue with small 1500 draws, then how is there a chance for CRS score to go down?

Or am I missing something?
If they have regular bi-weekly FSW inclusive draws, with a 1500 draw size, it will take 3-4 months for 501+ to clear. Expect an increase in high scores between now and September. PNP is a regular 600-700 out of the 1500 drawn. So technically the FSW/CEC quota per draw is 800-900 and that's being generous in the calculation. Even with zero influx of new candidates, it will take a long time to clear the 501+ scores. I'm sweating with a 516, I can only imagine what the 480s and 490s are feeling. 470-480 is imposssible no matter how you look at it.

So yeah you're right, score will not go down much this year. These draws are for the reduced 2023 quota. When they start drawing for 2024 (I'd imagine Q2-3 2023), if the express entry quota is back to the regular amount, then and only then will scores drop by any significant amount.
 

cz999

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Is the assumption that this won't be a norm?

I wish I had old statistics about CRS scores. Are they available anywhere? (How many people were in the pool 2 weeks ago, 4 weeks ago...)
https://www.ee-stats.com/charts/
This website has historical score distributions. From September 2021 to now, I’d say on average 501-600 increased by 300-350 per draw. So if they keep the 1500 draw size (which means 600-700 PNP and 800-900 CEC/FSW) it will take about 16 draws (~7.5 months) to clear out all 501+. But I do think the draw size will increase though to meet 2023 quota (75000).
 

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If they have regular bi-weekly FSW inclusive draws, with a 1500 draw size, it will take 3-4 months for 501+ to clear. Expect an increase in high scores between now and September. PNP is a regular 600-700 out of the 1500 drawn. So technically the FSW/CEC quota per draw is 800-900 and that's being generous in the calculation. Even with zero influx of new candidates, it will take a long time to clear the 501+ scores. I'm sweating with a 516, I can only imagine what the 480s and 490s are feeling. 470-480 is imposssible no matter how you look at it.

So yeah you're right, score will not go down much this year. These draws are for the reduced 2023 quota. When they start drawing for 2024 (I'd imagine Q2-3 2023), if the express entry quota is back to the regular amount, then and only then will scores drop by any significant amount.
I’d never have imagined a 516 would sweat about EE draws before 2021, but yet here we are…IRCC’s poor planning around the TR2PR stream made all of us pay the price. I have 501 so I know exactly how many people are in front of me, every round I am doing calculations…
 

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I’d never have imagined a 516 would sweat about EE draws before 2021, but yet here we are…IRCC’s poor planning around the TR2PR stream made all of us pay the price. I have 501 so I know exactly how many people are in front of me, every round I am doing calculations…
Go for AINP?
 

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Just in case anyone does know, imagine Karen being 29 y/o, never married, graduated from XYZ Uni at her home country, worked for a yr, felt her country sucks, so she moved to Canada for a master, got her PGWP and worked a yr on that. This is perfectly realistic right? If she happens to have CLB 10 in eng/fran, guess her CRS score as *CEC*?
613. Voila, that's how you get 600+ w/o PNP.
 

Impatient Dankaroo

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Ukraine/Russia war has caused shift in global economies. Europe is headed for the shitter. Russia basically said, if you shoot us, we bringing you down too. Expect demand for Canadian immigration to keep increasing. Its proximity to US economy + abundance of natural resources means they will continously have a strong job market. Ultimately us beggars cant be choosers
 
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friskflask

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Has anyone else here faced this situation or come across anything similar?

Got back my passport on July 5, 2022 without a stamp and with a letter attached that said Application in Progress.

PPR received on June 20, 2022, FSW-O, COR: India, VO: RROC, Remedical passed: April 27, 2022. No documents as per my knowledge are nearing their expiry.

PLEASE HELP!
 

Impatient Dankaroo

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I work from home in Alberta but my employer is in Ontario. So although it’s Canadian experience I don’t think I will be invited by either PNP program. I have been in the pool since April and no nomination from anywhere yer
AINP doesn't have set criteria, I say you have a high chance if you live there / studied there
 
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SatNight

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If they have regular bi-weekly FSW inclusive draws, with a 1500 draw size, it will take 3-4 months for 501+ to clear. Expect an increase in high scores between now and September. PNP is a regular 600-700 out of the 1500 drawn. So technically the FSW/CEC quota per draw is 800-900 and that's being generous in the calculation. Even with zero influx of new candidates, it will take a long time to clear the 501+ scores. I'm sweating with a 516, I can only imagine what the 480s and 490s are feeling. 470-480 is imposssible no matter how you look at it.

So yeah you're right, score will not go down much this year. These draws are for the reduced 2023 quota. When they start drawing for 2024 (I'd imagine Q2-3 2023), if the express entry quota is back to the regular amount, then and only then will scores drop by any significant amount.
We are at 483 and wondering about what to do. I still need to pass English, and my wife (primary applicant) will get additional 11 points for work experience in September. But I wonder if that's enough. She has French, so that might help if they target French speaking people.
 

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https://www.ee-stats.com/charts/
This website has historical score distributions. From September 2021 to now, I’d say on average 501-600 increased by 300-350 per draw. So if they keep the 1500 draw size (which means 600-700 PNP and 800-900 CEC/FSW) it will take about 16 draws (~7.5 months) to clear out all 501+. But I do think the draw size will increase though to meet 2023 quota (75000).
I expected them to start with more invitations, to be honest. So this was a surprise. My theory is that they started with a small draw either because of the backlogs or because they are making room for the new TR to PR. (That one is supposed to be launched in September).
 
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cz999

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I expected them to start with more invitations, to be honest. So this was a surprise. My theory is that they started with a small draw either because of the backlogs or because they are making room for the new TR to PR. (That one is supposed to be launched in September).
Yeah I was expecting 3000+ as well but oh well. I agree with you’re reasoning, not sure if they will launch the new Tr to Pr in September I think Sean Fraser has to release the framework of the program then but not necessarily launch it. Although I am inland I kinda don’t want them to launch the program just yet to add more uncertainty. Also see that your wife has French, I think you two can benefit from the potential group based draws which may target Francophones. I think with 494 if they increase the draws a bit in the near future there is a good chance you will get your ITA near the end of the year.