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btw, you know those battalion offsprings you mock me about? Apparently the lovely canadian govt is going to pay me $22k for having them and bringing them here, for last tax year alone!

S*ck on that mate :D:D.
God damn... Okay I gotta get going asap, I have 14 kids to make because I'm sure as hell not missing out on the baby production govt support!

Production rate will be lower than ideal though since I'm single. Is that what they call a single dad?
 

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Sorry to jump in. But as someone who is also concerned about potential NOC draws, what was the pre-EE system? Which NOCs were eligible? Is there a document or a link to read abut it?
The FSW system pre-EE involved a NOC list. So your NOC had to be on the list to qualify. Selection wasn't based on points but FIFO (first come first serve), meaning IRCC would open up the application process on a specific day and they would have caps for each NOC. So people would then race to get their complete applications in before their NOC hit the cap and there were no more spaces. IMO they are unlikely to return to that model (i.e. FIFO). If they do go back to a NOC list, then I think they'll still select people based on points but on top of that a person will also have to have work experience in one of the NOCs on the list. Of course I'm just guessing. Who knows what will happen.

In terms of which NOCs were on the list, this changed from year to year based on which occupations were in demand. So just because something was on the list back then doesn't mean it would be on a list now. If they go to a NOC list, that will be based on what occupations are in demand now.

Anyway, I did some searching and here's an article from back then that shows the NOC list that applied in 2015. https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/skilled-immigrants-recruited-in-50-occupations-ahead-of-express-entry-launch-1.2673822
 

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Kangaroo reporting with first-hand experience in AB on a PR:

Applied to ~40 engineering jobs, zero interviews. The lowest my experience matched the role I applied to was maybe 75-80 percent. A good portion with +90% match.

About me: Several years of experience and accredited degrees in what I'm applying for, white, no language issues.

Although of course I'm quite upset, I'm not surprised. AB in particular has an even worse job market than the shitty market in the rest of Canada. There's a fake image of "Canadian standards" in STEM and as a new immigrant they think you don't match up. What's funny is Canada is a country that can't produce as much technology compared to the US and the EU, yet Canadian employers think they know their shit more than those who worked at much bigger companies in much bigger projects. My resume is like all stars but it doesn't matter, it's not relevant in Canada.

The only way to find a job is 1. be in compsci/software/IT 2. apply to a shit ton of jobs since those jobs get 20-50 applications a day (especially so if remote)

If you're not in compsci/software/IT, you gotta move to Toronto or Montreal as there are more jobs but then again, you're gonna be hitting into the "Canadian standards" wall. Plus you'll be paying $2000/mo on a 400sqft cave.

I should add that it's pathetic how many people stole my forum name...
I'm in Toronto paying $2000 per month but not a 400 sqft cave.

My apartment is 800 sqft. lol
 

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The FSW system pre-EE involved a NOC list. So your NOC had to be on the list to qualify. Selection wasn't based on points but FIFO (first come first serve), meaning IRCC would open up the application process on a specific day and they would have caps for each NOC. So people would then race to get their complete applications in before their NOC hit the cap and there were no more spaces. IMO they are unlikely to return to that model (i.e. FIFO). If they do go back to a NOC list, then I think they'll still select people based on points but on top of that a person will also have to have work experience in one of the NOCs on the list. Of course I'm just guessing. Who knows what will happen.

In terms of which NOCs were on the list, this changed from year to year based on which occupations were in demand. So just because something was on the list back then doesn't mean it would be on a list now. If they go to a NOC list, that will be based on what occupations are in demand now.

Anyway, I did some searching and here's an article from back then that shows the NOC list that applied in 2015. https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/skilled-immigrants-recruited-in-50-occupations-ahead-of-express-entry-launch-1.2673822
Thank you for the explanation and the list. Yes, I don't see FIFO happening, but some NOC targeting could happen. On the other hand, I see that the list is relatively short, so it would make most present candidates ineligible? (Accidentally, my wife's NOC is on the list, but like you said, it was 2015). I know her NOC is in demand in Alberta at the moment but not sure about other places.

I hope it will not be so strict, if they introduce some sort of NOC targeting. Because it would make most people ineligible. Also, I know CEC are trashed in this forum but as I understand, there was no CEC back then? Or did this only refer to outland candidates?
 

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Thank you for the explanation and the list. Yes, I don't see FIFO happening, but some NOC targeting could happen. On the other hand, I see that the list is relatively short, so it would make most present candidates ineligible? (Accidentally, my wife's NOC is on the list, but like you said, it was 2015). I know her NOC is in demand in Alberta at the moment but not sure about other places.

I hope it will not be so strict, if they introduce some sort of NOC targeting. Because it would make most people ineligible. Also, I know CEC are trashed in this forum but as I understand, there was no CEC back then? Or did this only refer to outland candidates?
CEC existed back then too. However not all NOCs were accepted. There were some NOCs that were excluded from CEC like retail supervisor.
 
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CEC existed back then too. However not all NOCs were accepted. There were some NOCs that were excluded from CEC like retail supervisor.
Oh good to know. So there was more restriction in NOCs for FSW than CEC?

Again, I apologize for bringing CEC here :) It's just that this is the most informative topic on the entire forum and also the most active.
 

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Oh good to know. So there was more restriction in NOCs for FSW than CEC?

Again, I apologize for bringing CEC here :) It's just that this is the most informative topic on the entire forum and also the most active.
Yes, that's how it worked. But again, this was seven years ago.
 

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Yes, that's how it worked. But again, this was seven years ago.
Yes, understandable. I feel we all wish for more more transparency about how EE will look after July. Like one of the anove posters, my wife passed French to boost her points so it will be great if it's useful.