Wife is pregnant after passing medicals

[Asrar]

My AOR is 11th July 2019 and my wife is my dependent. My wife is pregnant and the expected due date is 1st week of May 2020. Our medical will expire in mid of June 2020. I am hoping to get CoPR by January 2020. We are planning to have the baby in home country only.
1. Can I land alone once we both get CoPR? What will happen to my wife’s CoPR if she didn't land before her medicals expire? Later I can sponsor my wife and child.
2. Can we both ask for CoPR extension and then get the child added to the application after birth and then land together?

We definitely do not plan to have delivery in Canada since we don’t know anyone there and in home town there is family and friends to take care.

Please suggest what are best options for us in this case.

 

[21Goose]

If you get your CoPRs before you baby is born, you have the following options.

1. Both of you land, become PRs, and return to have the baby in your home country. The advantage is that it is usually quite easy to get a visa for the baby if both parents are PRs, and so your baby can come to Canada with you, and then you can begin the sponsorship process. You won't need to be separated from your family.

2. You land, but your wife doesn't. Her CoPR expires. In that case, you will need to come to Canada and sponsor them both. Getting a visa for her will be difficult so you may need to be separated from your family for a year.

3. You get the CoPR, and your baby is born before the CoPRs expire. Then you can add your baby to the application and you'll get new CoPRs and all three of you can land as PRs. This is the best case scenario.

You cannot ask for a CoPR extension before the baby is born. If your CoPRs are expiring in April, and the baby isn't due till May, the principle applicant will have to land, or else you will lose your PR invitation and will have to start from scratch.

 

[canuck78]

Disagree that a TRV is easy to get if both parents are PRs. It seems to be 50/50 chance.

 

[mahi2020]

Also, consider that maternity charges wont be covered by government for 1st 3 months after landing, which can be huge.

Would suggest to land either in jan-march 2020 OR soft-land, go back and keep fingers crossed for TRV.

 

[canuck_in_uk]

My AOR is 11th July 2019 and my wife is my dependent. My wife is pregnant and the expected due date is 1st week of May 2020. Our medical will expire in mid of June 2020. I am hoping to get CoPR by January 2020. We are planning to have the baby in home country only.
1. Can I land alone once we both get CoPR? What will happen to my wife’s CoPR if she didn't land before her medicals expire? Later I can sponsor my wife and child.
2. Can we both ask for CoPR extension and then get the child added to the application after birth and then land together?

We definitely do not plan to have delivery in Canada since we don’t know anyone there and in home town there is family and friends to take care.

Please suggest what are best options for us in this case.

Option 3 as listed by 21Goose is generally the best option in this situation. It means no separation during a sponsorship app and you all become PRs together.

 

[vensak]

option 3 is problematic for his wife and pretty much. As you are only supposed to land if your family status (that includes dependents) is up to date.
Additional complication might be, that once the landing process has started (main applicant has landed), how the second COPR will be corrected (also it should be possible). The question is more if they will issue additional extended COPR for her and her child or not (if extension beyond original COPR is still allowed in this case).
It is clear from what he had stated, that she would not be able to add her baby that quickly on COPR (count like 1 month to get documents for baby and another 2 months for COPR to be amended).
Also attention, if they allow it to happen they can check if he proof of funds can now cover 3 people and if he was cutting it close his wife might even get it cancelled all together.

As for option 2, he will have to prove funds and sponsor them both. Also there should not be much of a problem there. but she will need new batch of documents and baby as well.
but the advantage here is, that baby will be covered from the first day once she will arrive (as one parent will be in that province for more than 3 months and have health insurance already).

Option 1 is rather tricky, because it will either force her to travel highly pregnant (in her last trimester) and maybe deliver child without any health insurance (as most provinces will give it to you only 3 months later). It might also be that she would not be allowed to fly (not because she will not have status in Canada, but because they wanted to avoid situation when baby is born in plane).

Depending when he will receive his COPR, I would suggest following:
1. Fast COPR - before the end of this year.
Book tickets immediately and land together as soon as possible (latest beginning of January). Your wife can than decide to have child in Canada or back home. If she will have it in Canada, she will still be covered, as her insurance will kick in in April (so unless she will deliver early she is good to go). Or she can return and then he will sponsor that child. For children this small, this is done rather easy and it only takes like 3 months.

2. Late COPR - next year (especially like February / March). Do not land and ask for COPR change as soon as child is born (send them birth certificate for the started to buy some time to get passport and medicals). Then you can land all 3 together.

 

[canuck_in_uk]

option 3 is problematic for his wife and pretty much. As you are only supposed to land if your family status (that includes dependents) is up to date.
Additional complication might be, that once the landing process has started (main applicant has landed), how the second COPR will be corrected (also it should be possible). The question is more if they will issue additional extended COPR for her and her child or not (if extension beyond original COPR is still allowed in this case).
It is clear from what he had stated, that she would not be able to add her baby that quickly on COPR (count like 1 month to get documents for baby and another 2 months for COPR to be amended).
Also attention, if they allow it to happen they can check if he proof of funds can now cover 3 people and if he was cutting it close his wife might even get it cancelled all together.

As for option 2, he will have to prove funds and sponsor them both. Also there should not be much of a problem there. but she will need new batch of documents and baby as well.
but the advantage here is, that baby will be covered from the first day once she will arrive (as one parent will be in that province for more than 3 months and have health insurance already).

Option 1 is rather tricky, because it will either force her to travel highly pregnant (in her last trimester) and maybe deliver child without any health insurance (as most provinces will give it to you only 3 months later). It might also be that she would not be allowed to fly (not because she will not have status in Canada, but because they wanted to avoid situation when baby is born in plane).

Depending when he will receive his COPR, I would suggest following:
1. Fast COPR - before the end of this year.
Book tickets immediately and land together as soon as possible (latest beginning of January). Your wife can than decide to have child in Canada or back home. If she will have it in Canada, she will still be covered, as her insurance will kick in in April (so unless she will deliver early she is good to go). Or she can return and then he will sponsor that child. For children this small, this is done rather easy and it only takes like 3 months.

2. Late COPR - next year (especially like February / March). Do not land and ask for COPR change as soon as child is born (send them birth certificate for the started to buy some time to get passport and medicals). Then you can land all 3 together.

I don't think you actually understand option 3. It would mean that neither of them land before the birth. They have the baby and then return their COPRs/visas before expiry and add the baby to the app. They are then re-issued COPRs/visas, along with the child, and all travel to Canada together.

 

[vensak]

I don't think you actually understand option 3. It would mean that neither of them land before the birth. They have the baby and then return their COPRs/visas before expiry and add the baby to the app. They are then re-issued COPRs/visas, along with the child, and all travel to Canada together.

my bad. Mixed it up a bit. Also one of them landing and one not and then trying to add the baby would be technically possible, but the question is how would officials react.

 

[Asrar]

If you get your CoPRs before you baby is born, you have the following options.

1. Both of you land, become PRs, and return to have the baby in your home country. The advantage is that it is usually quite easy to get a visa for the baby if both parents are PRs, and so your baby can come to Canada with you, and then you can begin the sponsorship process. You won't need to be separated from your family.

2. You land, but your wife doesn't. Her CoPR expires. In that case, you will need to come to Canada and sponsor them both. Getting a visa for her will be difficult so you may need to be separated from your family for a year.

3. You get the CoPR, and your baby is born before the CoPRs expire. Then you can add your baby to the application and you'll get new CoPRs and all three of you can land as PRs. This is the best case scenario.

You cannot ask for a CoPR extension before the baby is born. If your CoPRs are expiring in April, and the baby isn't due till May, the principle applicant will have to land, or else you will lose your PR invitation and will have to start from scratch.

I am more inclined towards opting for option 2. I just 2 concerns.
1. How difficult is it to sponsor wife n child?
2. My wife’s CoPR will expire so will it have any impact on my PR application?

 

[Asrar]

Disagree that a TRV is easy to get if both parents are PRs. It seems to be 50/50 chance.

What is TRV?

 

[Asrar]

option 3 is problematic for his wife and pretty much. As you are only supposed to land if your family status (that includes dependents) is up to date.
Additional complication might be, that once the landing process has started (main applicant has landed), how the second COPR will be corrected (also it should be possible). The question is more if they will issue additional extended COPR for her and her child or not (if extension beyond original COPR is still allowed in this case).
It is clear from what he had stated, that she would not be able to add her baby that quickly on COPR (count like 1 month to get documents for baby and another 2 months for COPR to be amended).
Also attention, if they allow it to happen they can check if he proof of funds can now cover 3 people and if he was cutting it close his wife might even get it cancelled all together.

As for option 2, he will have to prove funds and sponsor them both. Also there should not be much of a problem there. but she will need new batch of documents and baby as well.
but the advantage here is, that baby will be covered from the first day once she will arrive (as one parent will be in that province for more than 3 months and have health insurance already).

Option 1 is rather tricky, because it will either force her to travel highly pregnant (in her last trimester) and maybe deliver child without any health insurance (as most provinces will give it to you only 3 months later). It might also be that she would not be allowed to fly (not because she will not have status in Canada, but because they wanted to avoid situation when baby is born in plane).

Depending when he will receive his COPR, I would suggest following:
1. Fast COPR - before the end of this year.
Book tickets immediately and land together as soon as possible (latest beginning of January). Your wife can than decide to have child in Canada or back home. If she will have it in Canada, she will still be covered, as her insurance will kick in in April (so unless she will deliver early she is good to go). Or she can return and then he will sponsor that child. For children this small, this is done rather easy and it only takes like 3 months.

2. Late COPR - next year (especially like February / March). Do not land and ask for COPR change as soon as child is born (send them birth certificate for the started to buy some time to get passport and medicals). Then you can land all 3 together.

I am expecting CoPR by early January 2020. I don’t want her to travel during winters. Hence I am more inclined to opt for option 2. My only concern is:
1. My wife’s CoPR is going to expire in this case. Will it have impact on my PR application after I land alone?
2. How difficult is it to sponsor wife n child and what is the process?
3. After I apply for sponsorship will there be any issue with my wife since her CoPR got expired in past?

 

[bellaluna]

I am expecting CoPR by early January 2020. I don’t want her to travel during winters. Hence I am more inclined to opt for option 2. My only concern is:
1. My wife’s CoPR is going to expire in this case. Will it have impact on my PR application after I land alone?
2. How difficult is it to sponsor wife n child and what is the process?
3. After I apply for sponsorship will there be any issue with my wife since her CoPR got expired in past?

1. No.
2. https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/immigrate-canada/family-sponsorship/spouse-partner-children.html
You might want to take note of the fees and processing time on the right hand side. And then read all the links provided.
3. No.

 

[canuck_in_uk]

my bad. Mixed it up a bit. Also one of them landing and one not and then trying to add the baby would be technically possible, but the question is how would officials react.

The child cannot be added after the PA has landed.

 

[canuck_in_uk]

I am more inclined towards opting for option 2. I just 2 concerns.
1. How difficult is it to sponsor wife n child?
2. My wife’s CoPR will expire so will it have any impact on my PR application?

Understand that with option 2, there is a definite possibility that you will be away from your spouse and new child for a year or more. You are required to live in Canada during the sponsorship process and they may not be able to come to Canada.

1. Straightforward but as above.

2. No.

What is TRV?

TRV = visitor visa.

 

[vensak]

The child cannot be added after the PA has landed.

this is what I was not sure about, if you can do changes once landing process has started