Why has crs cutoff been so high recently? Will all applicants be forced to apply PNP in the future?

[pxc3110]

According to official stats, PNP is growing faster than regular express entry and as a result, cutoff scores have increased to a rediculously high level (around 470). At this pace, will cutoff score grow above 500 in the future? Will applicants not have a chance unless they apply for PNP?

 

[jrossi]

There has been no major difference in PNP invitations (aka 600-1200 ranged candidates) in the last 12 months: around 300-500 candidates every 2 weeks, which has been the average for pretty much the last 2 years. The only exception was Oct19 to Dec19, when the average was at about 700 candidates every 2 weeks, but since then we're way back to the 300-500 average.

Canada invites 4500 candidates every 2 weeks. PNPs have absolutely nothing to do with 470+ cutoffs. People simply want to come to Canada, one of the best countries to live in the world, and therefore are properly getting prepared for the competition.

 

[scylla]

According to official stats, PNP is growing faster than regular express entry and as a result, cutoff scores have increased to a rediculously high level (around 470). At this pace, will cutoff score grow above 500 in the future? Will applicants not have a chance unless they apply for PNP?

Scores are increasing because there are more people submitting profiles who want to immigrate. As long as there is a high level of interest, scores will remain high. It's basic supply and demand.

 

[smash1984]

According to official stats, PNP is growing faster than regular express entry and as a result, cutoff scores have increased to a rediculously high level (around 470). At this pace, will cutoff score grow above 500 in the future? Will applicants not have a chance unless they apply for PNP?

The score will fluctuate between 470 - 480 depending on frequency of draws but it will stay stable within this range (as has been for the last year).

No, the score won't be going above 500 because once you start going above 470, it gets progressively much harder to increase your score. Most score comes from language, 3 years work experience (foreign), education and being young. By the time people have a masters and a 3 year work experience, they are nearing 30 years of age and getting max points for these factors will get somewhere in the 480s for most people who have this profile. However a lot of people get married and touch 30s as well so the score drops down in the 470s.

The only way I see score touching 500s regularly is if a huge amount of people start taking french, which seems unlikely.

 

[pxc3110]

The score will fluctuate between 470 - 480 depending on frequency of draws but it will stay stable within this range (as has been for the last year).

No, the score won't be going above 500 because once you start going above 470, it gets progressively much harder to increase your score. Most score comes from language, 3 years work experience (foreign), education and being young. By the time people have a masters and a 3 year work experience, they are nearing 30 years of age and getting max points for these factors will get somewhere in the 480s for most people who have this profile. However a lot of people get married and touch 30s as well so the score drops down in the 470s.

The only way I see score touching 500s regularly is if a huge amount of people start taking french, which seems unlikely.

Do you consider it likely that PNP applicants increase significantly and pushing cutoff to 500+?

 

[smash1984]

Do you consider it likely that PNP applicants increase significantly and pushing cutoff to 500+?

No, i don't see PNP becoming so huge that it will start pushing the score above 500

 

[Mr_Chang]

One of the major issues is that there are many people "buying" LMIA from some immigration agents, buying the jobs, which is illegal. So far, I have heard many people around me saying that the estimate price for a LMIA is about $80,000-100,000. Just give an example, if some guy who has bachelor degree and 3 years NOC experiences, so easy, with language score of CLB-9 "buys" LMIA, they can easily get drawn from the pool. Currently, without having LMIA and to get drawn, it barely passes the cutoff for who has a Canadian bachelor degree,1 year NOC experience and perfect IELTS score (9.0 for all bands). That is almost impossible to get. I doubt there are that many people having LMIA, because it is rare to see the employer willing to hire someone through LIMA, I have only seen one tech guy with a PhD degree from one of the Top 20 university in the world gets this kind of opportunity.

While I do not know how prevalent these practices are, I do know this has happened about a decade ago during the "New Can" scam/fraud which ended up in more than a 1,000 deportation and the kingpin Xun (Sunny) Wang being jailed for a while. No matter how large the volume is, please be the good person here and help everyone else trying to come here legally by reporting immigration fraud.


Call the Canada Border Services Agency (CBSA) Border Watch Toll-free Line to report:

• suspicious border activity
• a marriage of convenience
• a person who has given false information on any immigration application or
• a person wanted on an immigration warrant

What you tell the tip line is confidential. You don’t have to provide your name, and calls aren’t recorded.


More information: https://www.cic.gc.ca/english/helpcentre/answer.asp?qnum=1207&top=31

 

[EscoBlades]

I doubt there are that many people having LMIA, because it is rare to see the employer willing to hire someone through LIMA, I have only seen one tech guy with a PhD degree from one of the Top 20 university in the world gets this kind of opportunity.

Your anecdote is nonsense.