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Why CIC ask this question????

sushmet

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I am wondering why CIC is asking this question for Citizenship applicatio??

Has the child left Canada for 6 months or longer since becoming a permanent resident

Do CIC share this info with CRA? When we called CRA they told me even if you leave for more than 6 months BUT less than a year, you are RESIDENT of Canada and continue to receive CCTB etc. I confirmed this with 3 different agents with CRA over phone and all 3 gave me same answers, so did not bother writing official letter to CRA.

I am wondering what is the purpose of this question??

PLEASE HELP.
 

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It's obvious from the context of the form. If the child hasn't been outside of Canada for more than 6 months, you don't need to provide details of his or her absences. It simplifies things for those minor applicants who haven't been outside the country a whole lot.
 

sushmet

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bambino said:
It's obvious from the context of the form. If the child hasn't been outside of Canada for more than 6 months, you don't need to provide details of his or her absences. It simplifies things for those minor applicants who haven't been outside the country a whole lot.
Its NOT clear from your message whats the purpose though. Does it have to do anything with CRA at all? In what way it simplifies things for minor applicant? Please specify.
 

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CRA = minor = CCTB or UCTB?

is that what this is about?
 

bambino

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sushmet said:
Its NOT clear from your message whats the purpose though. Does it have to do anything with CRA at all? In what way it simplifies things for minor applicant? Please specify.
Because all adult applicants have to fill out the residency calculator, listing all their trips over the relevant period.

For children, that requirement is not there, unless the child has been outside Canada for more than 6 months over the relevant period -- then they want you to fill out the details of their travels.

What does CRA have to do with this??? The new citizenship rules re: filing taxes are not in force yet. And this is 6 months over FOUR years (the relevant period). The 6 month requirement regarding taxes is actually 183 days over the course of a SINGLE year. Totally different and unrelated thing.
 

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bambino said:
Because all adult applicants have to fill out the residency calculator, listing all their trips over the relevant period.

For children, that requirement is not there, unless the child has been outside Canada for more than 6 months over the relevant period -- then they want you to fill out the details of their travels.

What does CRA have to do with this??? The new citizenship rules re: filing taxes are not in force yet. And this is 6 months over FOUR years (the relevant period). The 6 month requirement regarding taxes is actually 183 days over the course of a SINGLE year. Totally different and unrelated thing.
I agree and need to add this. A child who was outside Canada for over 6 months means he was not schooled in Canada. Yes he doesn't need to meet the 1095 days requirements but chances are his parents were not in Canada either. That's what they need to find out but in a smart way. How can a parent be away from his little kid for over 6 months? They're looking for anything that may suggest an undeclared absence from Canada for the parents.
 

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Goldline said:
I agree and need to add this. A child who was outside Canada for over 6 months means he was not schooled in Canada. Yes he doesn't need to meet the 1095 days requirements but chances are his parents were not in Canada either. That's what they need to find out but in a smart way. How can a parent be away from his little kid for over 6 months? They're looking for anything that may suggest an undeclared absence from Canada for the parents.
Thank you for adding that. I was tempted to write something much along the same lines, but didn't want to confuse OP any further.
 

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If the child was staying out of country for more than six months, probably he is not schooled in Canada. If this indicates to schooling abroad, there may be longer stays and chances of not maintaining valid PR status.

Minors are not subject to the language, residence and knowledge requirements that adults are subject to under the Citizenship Act. However, child must be maintaining valid PR status to become citizen.
Citizenship officers need to check whether the minors still have permanent resident status, i.e., they have maintained their permanent resident status.
 

russ007

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Well the question says "Has the child left Canada for 6 months or longer since becoming a permanent resident?"

They are not asking if the child left for 6 months in the relevant 4 year period. They are asking if the child left for 6 months since becoming PR.

There are many cases, including myself where the child stayed outside Canada for first 3 years after becoming PR and finally moved to Canada 2 years before the PR Card expired. This is within the CIC allowed limit legally.

Am not sure why CIC put this question in the minor's citizenship applicaiton.
 

sushmet

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Hi,

From the replies it looks like they want to see if parents were really in Canada OR if child attended school somewhere else outside Canada etc. Doesnt look like it has to do anything with CRA. Any more insights friends?
 

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bambino said:
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For children, that requirement is not there, unless the child has been outside Canada for more than 6 months over the relevant period ...

And this is 6 months over FOUR years (the relevant period). The 6 month requirement regarding taxes is actually 183 days over the course of a SINGLE year.
Just to correct, CIC asks to list all absence since becoming PR, not just the past FOUR years. They are different.
 

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superfellow said:
Just to correct, CIC asks to list all absence since becoming PR, not just the past FOUR years. They are different.
You are correct, of course. What I was pointing out was that the question concerned absences over the course of several years, and not 6 months out of a single year (CRA related).
 

roni_can

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So to clarify, an adult has to declare absences for the past four years before the time of the application.
A minor has to declare ALL absenses since becoming a permament resident even for the period BEOFRE the past four years?
 

roni_can

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roni_can said:
So to clarify, an adult has to declare absences for the past four years before the time of the application.
A minor has to declare ALL absenses since becoming a permament resident even for the period BEOFRE the past four years?