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Hello Everybody,

I am landing in Canada in March 2012,

I am an Apple Hardware Technician & PC too.

My brother is Charter Accountant.

We both are landing there together.

Now I want some advice which place is the better place for us. Where should we settle down.

I want to start my own business of computer support or something else ( SUGGESTION ARE MOST WELCOME ) which place will be better option for me?

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What is the basic cost of living in Vancouver & Toronto?
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You are welcome to Vancouver.
You are aware that it is in British Columbia. I love Vancouver because I live here in this city very peacefully and I can get almost everything for our family. School for children, healthcare, shopping, fun, living cost etc are better for me ( I am in middle income group). I never know more about Ontario except what is seen in TV and in websites. But the weather in Vancouver is not so cold like in Ontario. Let other BC people or Ontarian speak more.

My reply is in small font. Is it OK for you?.
 

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apatel said:

Hello Everybody,

I am landing in Canada in March 2012,

I am an Apple Hardware Technician & PC too.

My brother is Charter Accountant.

We both are landing there together.

Now I want some advice which place is the better place for us. Where should we settle down.

I want to start my own business of computer support or something else ( SUGGESTION ARE MOST WELCOME ) which place will be better option for me?

We are from London (UK)[size=10pt][size=10pt]
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What is the basic cost of living in Vancouver & Toronto?
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Cost of Living Comparison Between Toronto and Vancouve
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Indexes Difference Info
Consumer Prices in Vancouver are 1.14% higher than in Toronto
Consumer Prices Including Rent in Vancouver are 4.03% higher than in Toronto
Rent Prices in Vancouver are 14.20% higher than in Toronto
Restaurant Prices in Vancouver are 8.56% higherthan in Toronto
Groceries Prices in Vancouver are 8.52% higher than in Toronto
Local Purchasing Power in Vancouver is 5.82% Lower than in Toronto

Restaurants
Toronto Vancouver Difference
Meal, Inexpensive Restaurant 11.97 $ 13.92 $ +16.34 %
Meal for 2, Mid-range Restaurant, Three-course 57.56 $ 64.87 $ +12.70 %
Combo Meal at McDonalds or Similar 7.51 $ 7.16 $ -4.56 %
Domestic Beer (0.5 liter draught) 5.69 $ 5.41 $ -4.84 %
Imported Beer (0.33 liter bottle) 6.23 $ 5.95 $ -4.48 %
Cappuccino (regular) 3.68 $ 3.85 $ +4.50 %
Coke/Pepsi (0.33 liter bottle) 1.88 $ 1.77 $ -5.96 %
Water (0.33 liter bottle) 1.64 $ 1.81 $ +10.79 %


Markets
Milk (regular), 1 liter 2.78 $ 1.92 $ -30.84 %
Loaf of Fresh White Bread (500g) 2.73 $ 2.59 $ -5.43 %
Eggs (12) 3.35 $ 3.77 $ +12.65 %
Fresh Cheese (1kg) 0.32 $ 12.07 $ +16.99 %
Chicken Breasts (Boneless, Skinless), (1kg) 8.63 $ 11.79 $ +36.50 %
Apples (1kg) 2.83 $ 3.14 $ +10.95 %
Oranges (1kg) 2.71 $ 3.05 $ +12.30 %
Potato (1kg) 1.24 $ 2.03 $ +63.92 %
Lettuce (1 head) 1.74 $ 1.52 $ -12.85 %
Water (1.5 liter bottle) 2.14 $ 2.24 $ +4.93 %
Bottle of Wine (Mid-Range) 14.61 $ 17.21 $ +17.79 %
Domestic Beer (0.5 liter bottle) 2.90 $ 3.29 $ +13.30 %
Imported Beer (0.33 liter bottle) 3.81 $ 3.06 $ -19.70 %
Pack of Cigarettes (Marlboro) 10.97 $ 10.14 $ -7.50 %




Transportation
One-way Ticket (local transport) 2.97 $ 2.63 $ -11.27 %
Monthly Pass 120.78 $ 89.21 $ -26.14 %
Taxi Start (Normal Tariff) 4.18 $ 3.08 $ -26.17 %
Taxi 1km (Normal Tariff) 1.64 $ 1.45 $ -11.19 %
Taxi 1hour Waiting (Normal Tariff) 39.01 $ 27.91 $ -28.45 %
Gasoline (1 liter) 1.20 $ 1.28 $ +7.20 %
Volkswagen Golf 1.4 90 KW 22,293.88 $ 22,211.12 $ -0.37 %
(Or Equivalent New Car)

Utilities (Monthly)

Basic (Electricity, Gas, Water, Garbage) 218.96 $ 156.76 $ -28.41 %
1 min. of Prepaid Mobile Tariff Local 0.26 $ 0.43 $ +67.86 %
(No Discounts or Plans)
Internet (6 Mbps, Flat Rate, Cable/ADSL) 47.19 $ 44.75 $ -5.16 %

Sports And Leisure
Fitness Club, Monthly Fee for 1 Adult 69.91 $ 57.26 $ -18.10 %
Tennis Court Rent (1 Hour on Weekend) 31.43 $ 24.44 $ -22.26 %
Cinema, International Release, 1 Seat 12.76 $ 13.04 $ +2.22 %

Clothing And Shoes
1 Pair of Levis 501 (Or Equivalent) 73.19 $ 55.51 $ -24.16 %
1 Summer Dress in a Chain Store (Zara, H&M, ...) 55.32 $ 54.58 $ -1.35 %
1 Pair of Nike Shoes 115.71 $ 114.58 $ -0.98 %
1 Pair of Men Leather Shoes 147.92 $ 121.19 $ -18.07 %

Rent Per Month
Apartment (1 bedroom) in City Centre 1,293.30 $ 1,297.36 $ +0.31 %
Apartment (1 bedroom) Outside of Centre 918.80 $ 1,026.17 $ +11.69 %
Apartment (3 bedrooms) in City Centre 2,338.21 $ 2,863.44 $ +22.46 %
Apartment (3 bedrooms) Outside of Centre 1,664.15 $ 1,910.19 $ +14.78 %

Buy Apartment Price
Price per Square Meter to Buy Apartment in City Centre6,659.25 $ 7,257.95 $ +8.99 %
Price per Square Meter to Buy Apartment Outside of Centre 3,884.32 $ 5,120.40 $ +31.82 %

Salaries And Financing

Median Monthly Disposable Salary (After Tax) 3,211.34 $ 3,146.55 $ -2.02 %
Mortgage Interest Rate in Percentanges (%), Yearly 3.93 4.44 +12.91 %


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apatel said:

Hello Everybody,

I am landing in Canada in March 2012,

I am an Apple Hardware Technician & PC too.

My brother is Charter Accountant.

We both are landing there together.

Now I want some advice which place is the better place for us. Where should we settle down.

I want to start my own business of computer support or something else ( SUGGESTION ARE MOST WELCOME ) which place will be better option for me?

We are from London (UK)[size=10pt][/size]

What is the basic cost of living in Vancouver & Toronto?
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Compare different cities here:

http://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/
 

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Compare different cities here:

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AZRAHIL

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How is Alberta? I heard a lot about Alberta from a friend who has been there for a long. He suggested me to choose Toronto under the province Ontario. Can you add something here?
 

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How is Alberta? I heard a lot about Alberta from a friend who has been there for a long. He suggested me to choose Toronto under the province Ontario. Can you add something here?
Living in Calgary, Alberta


Geography

Calgary is a prairie city with about 1 million residents. It sits in a vast, generally brown coloured plain in Southern Alberta.

The prairie here is far above sea level: Calgary is a 1 kilometer high city - or more precisely Calgary's elevation is 1050 meters (3445 feet) above sea level.

Calgary is Alberta's largest city, larger than Edmonton, the province's capital.

Calgary's latitude - 51 degrees north - is similar to London, Paris, Seattle and Vancouver. It enjoys long days in summer but has long nights in winter.

Calgary is semi-arid - hence the brown landscape. Sitting on the prairies, it enjoys plenty of sunshine with low rainfall. The Rocky Mountains rise dramatically to the west - about an hour away by car from Calgary.


Character
Of all Canada's provinces, Alberta's character is most like the USA. Alberta has cowboy boots, rodeos, cow festivals, and American spellings. Its government is to the right of Canada's other provinces. Alberta has a reputation for socially conservative attitudes.


Business and Jobs
Alberta has the lion's share of Canada's oil industry. Its reserves - in the form of oil-sands - are estimated to be second only to Saudi Arabia's. Calgary is one of Canada's wealthiest cities.

Low taxes have brought many businesses to Calgary. Small businesses in Alberta pay just 14 percent tax and there is no payroll tax.

Calgary's recent spectacular growth rate has slowed as a result of the credit crunch and, in particular, uncertain oil prices.

Calgary's unemployment rate (January 2011) was 5.9 percent, lower than the Canadian average of 7.4 percent. The number has improved from a year ago, when Calgary's unemployment was 7.2 percent and the Canadian average was 8.3 percent. Calgary's unemployment rate was 3.9 percent in 2009 and 3.1 percent in 2008.

Encouragingly, a recent survey by Manpower found that a net 26 percent of Calgary businesses plan to increase staff levels in the first half of 2011.

The oil industry and its suppliers pay some of the highest salaries in Calgary.

Pumpjack
Oil Pumpjack in Alberta Canola Field

The government, universities and schools aren't quite as generous with their money but offer reasonable salaries and good conditions of employment.

Despite Calgary's lower than average unemployment rate, getting well-paid work has proved difficult for many migrants when they first arrive in the city. Many of Calgary's employers seem to look first for a local employee. If they can't find a suitable local employee, employers will consider employing a migrant.

If you have specialist, in-demand skills in the oil and gas industry, you are less likely to have difficulties.

Getting low paid work is easier.

There is no general sales tax levied in Alberta, although shoppers need to pay a federal sales tax of 5 percent. Shoppers in other Canadian provinces have to add a combined sales tax to their purchases ranging from 10 percent in Saskatchewan to 15 percent in Nova Scotia and Prince Edward Island.

Alberta and Calgary's public finances are very healthy and the standard of healthcare compares favourably with other parts of Canada.
Environment :: Transport :: Where to Live :: Business :: Jobs :: Pros and Cons
Geography
Calgary is a prairie city with about 1 million residents. It sits in a vast, generally brown coloured plain in Southern Alberta.

The prairie here is far above sea level: Calgary is a 1 kilometer high city - or more precisely Calgary's elevation is 1050 meters (3445 feet) above sea level.

Calgary is Alberta's largest city, larger than Edmonton, the province's capital.

Calgary's latitude - 51 degrees north - is similar to London, Paris, Seattle and Vancouver. It enjoys long days in summer but has long nights in winter.

Calgary is semi-arid - hence the brown landscape. Sitting on the prairies, it enjoys plenty of sunshine with low rainfall. The Rocky Mountains rise dramatically to the west - about an hour away by car from Calgary.


Character
Of all Canada's provinces, Alberta's character is most like the USA. Alberta has cowboy boots, rodeos, cow festivals, and American spellings. Its government is to the right of Canada's other provinces. Alberta has a reputation for socially conservative attitudes.


Business and Jobs

Alberta has the lion's share of Canada's oil industry. Its reserves - in the form of oil-sands - are estimated to be second only to Saudi Arabia's. Calgary is one of Canada's wealthiest cities.

Low taxes have brought many businesses to Calgary. Small businesses in Alberta pay just 14 percent tax and there is no payroll tax.

Calgary's recent spectacular growth rate has slowed as a result of the credit crunch and, in particular, uncertain oil prices.

Calgary's unemployment rate (January 2011) was 5.9 percent, lower than the Canadian average of 7.4 percent. The number has improved from a year ago, when Calgary's unemployment was 7.2 percent and the Canadian average was 8.3 percent. Calgary's unemployment rate was 3.9 percent in 2009 and 3.1 percent in 2008.

Encouragingly, a recent survey by Manpower found that a net 26 percent of Calgary businesses plan to increase staff levels in the first half of 2011.

The oil industry and its suppliers pay some of the highest salaries in Calgary.

Pumpjack
Oil Pumpjack in Alberta Canola Field

The government, universities and schools aren't quite as generous with their money but offer reasonable salaries and good conditions of employment.

Despite Calgary's lower than average unemployment rate, getting well-paid work has proved difficult for many migrants when they first arrive in the city. Many of Calgary's employers seem to look first for a local employee. If they can't find a suitable local employee, employers will consider employing a migrant.

If you have specialist, in-demand skills in the oil and gas industry, you are less likely to have difficulties.

Getting low paid work is easier.

There is no general sales tax levied in Alberta, although shoppers need to pay a federal sales tax of 5 percent. Shoppers in other Canadian provinces have to add a combined sales tax to their purchases ranging from 10 percent in Saskatchewan to 15 percent in Nova Scotia and Prince Edward Island.

Alberta and Calgary's public finances are very healthy and the standard of healthcare compares favourably with other parts of Canada.




About Health
Although healthcare is good, Calgary's breakneck growth means you may find it difficult to get a family doctor when you first arrive in Calgary - there is a shortage.

Calgary Health maintains a list of family doctors currently accepting new patients here (pdf document).

If you haven't registered with a family doctor, but need the services of one, you can use a walk-in clinic free of charge, provided you have an AHCIP card (Alberta Health Care Insurance Plan card).

When you arrive in Alberta you need to wait three months before you are eligible for an AHCIP card. This applies whether you are relocating internationally or from another Canadian province. To cover you during this time, private health insurance should be considered.


Environment and Getting Around
Calgary has a very clean environment. It was rated as the world's cleanest city by Forbes Magazine in 2007 (this is the most recent survey published) and as the world's fifth most livable city by the Economist in 2011.

Calgary has little litter and the air is refreshingly clear and crisp. In 2010, Mercer carried out a survey of quality of life in cities around the world and rated Calgary as the world's top Eco-city on the basis of the city's waste removal service, sewage systems, water drinkability & availability, and low air pollution.

Cats and dogs must be licensed by the City of Calgary.

Regulations prohibit pet cats from roaming in Calgary; this means that a cat must remain on the owner's property.

Dogs must not be allowed off-leash unless they are in a securely fenced private yard or a designated off-leash area.

Calgary has 149 public off-leash areas, making a total of more than 1,250 hectares (3125 acres). Just over one-sixth of city parkland is designated off-leash.

Calgary has some wonderful, extensive parkland with unvandalised playgrounds. The parks have attractive paths and cycle routes - especially parks on the Bow River.

Buildings in downtown Calgary are linked by the +15 network of overhead pedestrian bridges, shown in one of the images.

The +15 network is heated, so you can walk around the downtown's buildings and shops in winter without the need for winter clothing.

The network (so called because the bridges are about 15 feet above the ground) is the biggest network of buildings connected by footbridges in the world, about 16 kilometers (10 miles) long in total.

Calgary's public transport is reasonably good.

The C Train (a light railway) is reliable and runs from some of the suburbs into downtown Calgary. You can see the C Train's Stations and routes here.

The C Train is powered by electricity generated by windfarms. Within downtown Calgary you can travel free on the C Train. Outside downtown, there are free park-and-ride-car-parks for the C Train and buses.

Park and Ride car parks feature free plug-in block heaters. These heaters are needed in cold weather to preheat car engines before they can start. The C Train stations aren't enclosed which makes for some very chilly waits in winter.

Most Calgarians prefer using their cars to public transport. City officials estimate that more than forty percent of downtown workers use the C Train regularly though.

Calgary's growth has been faster at times than the government's ability to cope.

Infrastructure is falling behind population and there can be traffic jams during rush hour.

People coming from larger cities in other countries will find the traffic relatively easy. Getting around is made harder by Calgary's many traffic lights. Some drivers' habit of tailgating can also be annoying.

Suburban developments have outpaced school construction. This has led to lengthy journeys for some children and overcrowding of popular existing schools.


Where to Live in Calgary
As Calgary has boomed, migrants have flooded in from Europe, Asia and other Canadian cities.

Suburban development has boomed too.

Calgary's house prices are still affordable compared with Vancouver but are almost as expensive as Toronto's.

The city's preferred residential areas lie in the North West and South West suburbs. These are closest to the Rockies with attractive mountain views.

The North East, where the airport is situated, and some rather industrial parts of the South East are often thought of as less favoured locations.

North West: we'd recommend Tuscany, Edgemont, Country Hills, Dalhousie and Rosedale as good places to begin your search for a home.

South West: we'd recommend West Hillhurst, Westgate and Springbank Hill as good places to begin your search for a home.



Calgary's Location


The Bow River, at Banff in the Rockies, west of Calgary
The Bow River, at Banff in the Rockies, west of Calgary

Apartments on the Bow River in Calgary
High Rise Apartments on the Bow River in Calgary

Downtown Calgary
Downtown Calgary

New Build Homes in Calgary
New Build Homes in Calgary

Houses in an Older Calgary Suburb
Houses in an Older Suburb

Plus 15
New Offices with +15 Bridge

New Houses, Calgary Suburban Sprawl
New Houses - Calgary Suburban Sprawl

An Older Syle Home in Calgary
An Older Syle Home in Calgary

Downtown Calgary
Downtown Calgary

Calgary into the Rockies
Into the Rockies


South East: we'd recommend McKenzie Lake and Midnapore as good places to begin your search for a home.

Each of these areas has lower than average crime rates and offer residents an above average quality of life.


Summing Up
To some migrants, Calgary feels isolated - an island city in the middle of a vast prairie. Unlike Toronto, there are no other sizeable towns and cities nearby. It's also a long way from the sea or sizeable lakes.

Most migrants, provided they can cope with the cool climate, find Calgary offers an extremely attractive lifestyle.


Calgary's Negatives

The long, cold winter.

The rapid thaw and slush when the warm Chinook wind blows in winter.

The short summer.

A lack of history, historical buildings, and culture.

Expensive housing compared with most other Canadian cities.


Calgary's Positives

Low taxes.

Low unemployment.

Salaries above the Canadian average.

Clean and beautiful, with a modern, attractive downtown, a good-sized meandering river, and the rocky mountain backdrop.

The Rockies are easily accessible by car from Calgary.

Clean air.

A sunny climate - one of the sunniest in Canada - with low rainfall.

Chinook winds bringing mild days in winter.

Fantastic winter sports - with Canada Olympic Park.

Friendly people.

It's easy to "get away from it all" into a huge province with a small population.
 

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Thanks alot guys for your clarifications,
it really helps so much..

The thing is that all parameters are pushing me towards calgary or vancouver, especially vancouver,
but all my friends, and we are talking about more than 20 couples! are in toronto!

I don't know, which way to go!

xony
 

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i believe mycan "welcome to Canada" is what they said to you when you first passed the custom:),
but my confusion is still the same as I just said.. i don't think when i go there it'll b better! what do you think after landing?

xony