what if: baby born in Canada after very shortly receiving CoPR documents (but before landing)?

[lilyco]

Do we have to add the baby to the CoPR before landing?

We've just received the CoPR, we are in Canada, and our baby due date is in like 3 days.

So baby's gonna be Canadian, since born in Canada. So not really an accompanying member, but definitely a dependent...

 

[canuck_in_uk]

Do we have to add the baby to the CoPR before landing?

We've just received the CoPR, we are in Canada, and our baby due date is in like 3 days.

So baby's gonna be Canadian, since born in Canada. So not really an accompanying member, but definitely a dependent...

Canadian dependents are not listed in the COPR, so nothing needs to be changed. You can just update IRCC when the child is born.

 

[lilyco]

Canadian dependents are not listed in the COPR, so nothing needs to be changed. You can just update IRCC when the child is born.

Great! Thanks!

 

[halayqa]

Canadian dependents are not listed in the COPR, so nothing needs to be changed. You can just update IRCC when the child is born.

In case the baby don't have the birth certificate, what happen during the landing ? Thanks

 

[halayqa]

Great! Thanks!

Did you have any baby's related documents during the landing ? birth cer or passport ?

 

[lilyco]

In case baby is born in Canada, baby is Canadian and not considered a dependent on the CoPR.

If baby is not Canadian, then you should contact IRCC before landing!

 

[lilyco]

Did you have any baby's related documents during the landing ? birth cer or passport ?

I had baby’s birth certificate but they didn’t need it at all. They just wanna make sure you don’t have a non-declared non-Canadian baby.

So if you have a Canadian baby, just tell them at the landing and that’s all.

 

[halayqa]

In case baby is born in Canada, baby is Canadian and not considered a dependent on the CoPR.

If baby is not Canadian, then you should contact IRCC before landing!

Thanks !
Baby born in Canada, but we still waiting for the birth cer which might take a while, out landing expected next week, what we can do in this case ?

 

[halayqa]

I had baby’s birth certificate but they didn’t need it at all. They just wanna make sure you don’t have a non-declared non-Canadian baby.

So if you have a Canadian baby, just tell them at the landing and that’s all.

Crossing US-Canada borders won't be an issue in this case ?

 

[lilyco]

Crossing US-Canada borders won't be an issue in this case ?

1st. It will be a major issue for your baby to cross a border without a passport: so just don't take the baby with you! Avoid all the potential huge trouble there!

2nd. Normally you should have told IRCC (by email or phone) that you had a baby as soon as the baby was born. (That's written somewhere in the tons of documents they have given you.) So if you still haven't done it, do it now! (Don't worry though.) Give them your immigration file number and your baby's name and date and place of birth. They will tell you what to do next (which is likely to upload the birth certificate, and if they give a delay that seems too short, write an email to the birth certificate issuer and explain to them the situation, and use their reply to explain to IRCC that you need more time for the birth certificate). In any case, your baby will not be considered a dependent on your CoPR so it should not a big issue.

3rd. As said before, baby being Canadian means baby is not considered a dependent on the CoPR. Do tell the officer when you land. (The officer will not care about your baby because your baby is Canadian.) Just don't hide stuff from the officer, or it'll make you a liar and liars are not well treated at borders... (unless they never know you lied, but it's generally and normally easier to stick to the truth...)

Hope it's becoming clearer!

This last step, the CoPR, is really not a step to worry much about. (Unless your application was bogus and they find out at that time...)

 

[halayqa]

1st. It will be a major issue for your baby to cross a border without a passport: so just don't take the baby with you! Avoid all the potential huge trouble there!

2nd. Normally you should have told IRCC (by email or phone) that you had a baby as soon as the baby was born. (That's written somewhere in the tons of documents they have given you.) So if you still haven't done it, do it now! (Don't worry though.) Give them your immigration file number and your baby's name and date and place of birth. They will tell you what to do next (which is likely to upload the birth certificate, and if they give a delay that seems too short, write an email to the birth certificate issuer and explain to them the situation, and use their reply to explain to IRCC that you need more time for the birth certificate). In any case, your baby will not be considered a dependent on your CoPR so it should not a big issue.

3rd. As said before, baby being Canadian means baby is not considered a dependent on the CoPR. Do tell the officer when you land. (The officer will not care about your baby because your baby is Canadian.) Just don't hide stuff from the officer, or it'll make you a liar and liars are not well treated at borders... (unless they never know you lied, but it's generally and normally easier to stick to the truth...)

Hope it's becoming clearer!

This last step, the CoPR, is really not a step to worry much about. (Unless your application was bogus and they find out at that time...)

Definitely , appreciate your help and details given . Thanks !

I already informed IRCC about the baby and send them a medical report (proof of live birth). As you said, not accompanying the baby is one option or might do the landing in Canada (IRCC offices) .

 

[lilyco]

Great, I'm glad I helped.

If the border is not far and you have someone to watch over the baby, it's quickest to do at the border. Just make sure you have the rights to enter the USA! (Or it will be so much trouble...)

What you could do, potentially, if you don't have a babysitter:
- go to a café near the border.
- the secondary applicant babysits the bay
- the primary applicant goes to validate the CoPR, then goes back to the café to babysit while the secondary applicant goes to the border to do the CoPR!

I did my CoPR at Vancouver's airport. It took about 3 hours because of it was very crowded.
Then my partner (secondary applicant) did it at the border, it took about 1h30min including the time to go to the border and come back! (We spent about 20 minutes at the border, like 10 minutes to pass the US border and 10 minutes to pass the Canadian border while validating the CoPR.)

 

[halayqa]

Great, I'm glad I helped.

If the border is not far and you have someone to watch over the baby, it's quickest to do at the border. Just make sure you have the rights to enter the USA! (Or it will be so much trouble...)

What you could do, potentially, if you don't have a babysitter:
- go to a café near the border.
- the secondary applicant babysits the bay
- the primary applicant goes to validate the CoPR, then goes back to the café to babysit while the secondary applicant goes to the border to do the CoPR!

I did my CoPR at Vancouver's airport. It took about 3 hours because of it was very crowded.
Then my partner (secondary applicant) did it at the border, it took about 1h30min including the time to go to the border and come back! (We spent about 20 minutes at the border, like 10 minutes to pass the US border and 10 minutes to pass the Canadian border while validating the CoPR.)

Yeah, I have many friends around to take care of the baby, and borders are 1 hours driving from here. I didn't know that each of us can do the landing alone, good to know . We have 3 kids as well listed in the application

 

[lilyco]

The primary applicant has to land first. You can't have the secondary applicant land before the primary one.

Now it's up to you to know if you can wait a few weeks to have an appointment at an IRCC office nearby or if you can just go to the border.

We delayed the landing by 2 whole months because once you land, you virtually can't leave Canada for 2 to 3 months, while waiting for the PR card! Once you land, you're officially PR, and once you're PR, you need PR card to enter Canada via a commercial vehicle (including any plane, any coach, any car with more than 6 seats). But also, once you're PR, so many things become easier (bank account, etc.).

 

[halayqa]

The primary applicant has to land first. You can't have the secondary applicant land before the primary one.

Now it's up to you to know if you can wait a few weeks to have an appointment at an IRCC office nearby or if you can just go to the border.

We delayed the landing by 2 whole months because once you land, you virtually can't leave Canada for 2 to 3 months, while waiting for the PR card! Once you land, you're officially PR, and once you're PR, you need PR card to enter Canada via a commercial vehicle (including any plane, any coach, any car with more than 6 seats). But also, once you're PR, so many things become easier (bank account, etc.).

Indeed, really appreciate your help ! Lets hope the best. Happy stay in Canada !