What future is for Temporary Foreign Worker in Canada?

[amir214]

HI everybody
Please share things or advice's because i just received my job offer letter and LMO in a food industry as a TFW. i am MBA-HR previous experinces in aviation field then after MBA didnt get a job so i applied for TFW because i heard that there are so many opportunities in canada its an entry step through TFW then you can find a better job related to your education or your experiences. But now i am hearing that TFW has to face difficulty to switch his job or if he switched his job he would be hire by other person who can hire only TFW and he cant get a other job except TFW program if he gets his citizenship then he has some chances but now i read that its hard for TFW to get citizenship or he has to wait for 4 years but also theres a limit for TFW to work in Canada for 4 years...

I am confused should i proceed or not for visa application because already im 30 and so many years in a TFW as a odd job n later not cnfrm that ill get a job related to my education or experience because its not an open market for TFW ..... any one wana add or suggets smthing would be appreciable.. thanks

 

[Portereq]

The only future you'll have as a TFW is a future cleaning toilets and taking out the garbage. Save yourself some dignity and stick to a career in your field.

 

[fkl]

Wow, i don't like to be rude to others, but the first response here is off most limits of decency.

Any way @ Amir214, just ignore that. As you can see this is the first post, and probably doesn't know any thing about what is being discussed here.

A good number of people live and work as temp workers in Canada, are paid well and live pretty happily. I am one - am highly skilled, was contacted and brought over by my employer because of the specific skill and experience they needed, was not found in Canada. And i am not alone - there are many i know in similar situations.

It is true that tfw program is abused as well in particular for low skilled positions - hence the fury of many Canadians towards such exploitation is justified in some ways, though in my humble opinion, it is quite overstated.

Any way, it is true that if you are on a temp foreign work permit, it is usually tied to one employer i.e. is a closed work permit and you need a new LMO and work permit to work for some one else.

However, you can apply for one of the many Permanent residency programs even while being in home country (e.g. FSW) OR you can choose a popular PR program (for people already in Canada) such as CEC, which one becomes eligible for - after having worked in Canada in a skilled job for one full year.

The processing time varies, but usually takes around a year for CEC.

Once you become a permanent resident, you can work for any one without any restriction. The only difference would be that you won't have a Canadian passport and won't be able to vote.

The 4 year or so period is requirement for citizenship, not permanent residence.

Hope that clarifies things for you. All the best.

 

[amir214]

Wow, i don't like to be rude to others, but the first response here is off most limits of decency.

Any way @ Amir214, just ignore that. As you can see this is the first post, and probably doesn't know any thing about what is being discussed here.

A good number of people live and work as temp workers in Canada, are paid well and live pretty happily. I am one - am highly skilled, was contacted and brought over by my employer because of the specific skill and experience they needed, was not found in Canada. And i am not alone - there are many i know in similar situations.

It is true that tfw program is abused as well in particular for low skilled positions - hence the fury of many Canadians towards such exploitation is justified in some ways, though in my humble opinion, it is quite overstated.

Any way, it is true that if you are on a temp foreign work permit, it is usually tied to one employer i.e. is a closed work permit and you need a new LMO and work permit to work for some one else.

However, you can apply for one of the many Permanent residency programs even while being in home country (e.g. FSW) OR you can choose a popular PR program (for people already in Canada) such as CEC, which one becomes eligible for - after having worked in Canada in a skilled job for one full year.

The processing time varies, but usually takes around a year for CEC.

Once you become a permanent resident, you can work for any one without any restriction. The only difference would be that you won't have a Canadian passport and won't be able to vote.

The 4 year or so period is requirement for citizenship, not permanent residence.

Hope that clarifies things for you. All the best.

Thanks FKL for your response... but still theres some difference ash you mentioned about you .. u came as a Skilled worker it is on top of TFW so u had many chances ..in starting i didnt care about these things but when half procedure has been done now im worrying because i read in news ns some videos those people have been wrking for almost for 4 years and they were askd to leave because there 4 year contract is over ....

and the programs which i mentioned about permanent residency its all for profession or skilled people not for TFW .. as my designation will be food counter attendant ..that position is not in there list i read it... all were skilled and managerial on which u were working for atleast 1 year..

i dont know should i submit my application or not im in Qatar right now.. no jobs here for fresher as well done MBA 3years back since den im in Qatar... n before had aviation experience with good airlines in Pakistan... but no use.... so i hope you can understand why i am so worried right now about this TFW ... that in case if went there and than there would be no chances except remain as food counter attndt thn aftr 4 years they say ok good go now

 

[canadavisa13]

Hi amir214,

with your career and professional experience in my personal opinion i suggest you apply directly for a permanent residence under a category which you qualify for such as FSW,PNP,FST,QSW.
you will just suffer if you come here on a work visa to do a LOW SKILLED JOB and your chances for pr will be slim,because the TFW has a limited period under which they can keep extending their work permits in canada as semi or low skilled workers and as of january 2015 there will be a new model of immigration launch by cic so applying for pr will not be guaranteed and it will be very competitive because only those selected will be invited to send their applications in.
you can still come here as a low skilled worker and try to find a new employer in your career but there is no guarantee you will succeed in doing so it all depends in many factors beyond your control.
you can always come here if you just want to gain some international experience and maybe save some many and visit canada.
this is my own moderate opinion but the choice is yours so before you make any decisions evaluate your circumstances and god will guide the right path and enlighten your way.

good luck.

 

[jenny12345]

It would be better if you can apply using Federal Skilled program so you can come here as a permanent resident and work anywhere. The low wage TFW is now good only for maximum of 2 years and your wage would be about 11$ per hour. Also you won't be able to work anywhere else other than with your employer. The risky part as well is if you have an employer who is on power trip/abusive as they are plenty in the fast food service industry.

 

[fkl]

Yeah as others already stated, for some body with MBA and aviation experience, i would wonder why would one accept position as a food counter attendant any way. If you want to come to Canada and cannot find an employer in the same profession (I know MBA HR won't because HR in Canada requires local qualification any way), then you should come through FSW or some PNP program.

 

[amir214]

Hi amir214,

with your career and professional experience in my personal opinion i suggest you apply directly for a permanent residence under a category which you qualify for such as FSW,PNP,FST,QSW.
you will just suffer if you come here on a work visa to do a LOW SKILLED JOB and your chances for pr will be slim,because the TFW has a limited period under which they can keep extending their work permits in canada as semi or low skilled workers and as of january 2015 there will be a new model of immigration launch by cic so applying for pr will not be guaranteed and it will be very competitive because only those selected will be invited to send their applications in.
you can still come here as a low skilled worker and try to find a new employer in your career but there is no guarantee you will succeed in doing so it all depends in many factors beyond your control.
you can always come here if you just want to gain some international experience and maybe save some many and visit canada.
this is my own moderate opinion but the choice is yours so before you make any decisions evaluate your circumstances and god will guide the right path and enlighten your way.

good luck.

Thanks canadavisa13.. for the suggestion i really appreciate it ..in starting i didnt know about this thing whn i got the LMO and Job offer letter from Edmonton thn i saw the TFW label then i started read about it coz a person who did this for me they said you can join any job but now they said it will be difficult... in the end you said you can come anytime and gain some international experience i didnt get it.. is there any program or smthng else to apply for this...

 

[amir214]

It would be better if you can apply using Federal Skilled program so you can come here as a permanent resident and work anywhere. The low wage TFW is now good only for maximum of 2 years and your wage would be about 11$ per hour. Also you won't be able to work anywhere else other than with your employer. The risky part as well is if you have an employer who is on power trip/abusive as they are plenty in the fast food service industry.

Thanks Jenny for the information .. so is it easy to apply for federal skilled program ? or should i have to find a job first related to this program /???

 

[amir214]

Yeah as others already stated, for some body with MBA and aviation experience, i would wonder why would one accept position as a food counter attendant any way. If you want to come to Canada and cannot find an employer in the same profession (I know MBA HR won't because HR in Canada requires local qualification any way), then you should come through FSW or some PNP program.

Fkl ... i didnt knwo about the TFW program.. a consultant adviced my brother try to find job in canada if your not getting job in Qatar you can join this job in canada thn later you can find any job related to your studies and experience thats why i applied through him but later whn i got eveything i started to read about it n askd him he said its not possible and difficult now me waiting for my brother to ask him again coz he is in aytakaaf now a days.. just worried now coz dont wana spend my coming years in a job where i would stuck and dont have experiencing... i dont mind to do a odd job but at least it would be good if i could find another job related to my studies....

 

[fkl]

Fkl ... i didnt knwo about the TFW program.. a consultant adviced my brother try to find job in canada if your not getting job in Qatar you can join this job in canada thn later you can find any job related to your studies and experience thats why i applied through him but later whn i got eveything i started to read about it n askd him he said its not possible and difficult now me waiting for my brother to ask him again coz he is in aytakaaf now a days.. just worried now coz dont wana spend my coming years in a job where i would stuck and dont have experiencing... i dont mind to do a odd job but at least it would be good if i could find another job related to my studies....

Sure - no this is wrong info. If you come as a temp worker, you have to stick to the same job unless you find another employer for a job in your profession who would get LMO and then you get another work permit, which is very hard. Even then on the same work permit, you can only work for ONLY THAT EMPLOYER and even that is for a limited period of time.

It is far better to apply for FSW (which might take a year or two to complete) but you don't need a job before hand, just need to qualify on points chart for that based upon your age, education, job experience, language ability etc. Even if you don't find a job at first in your profession after landing as a PR via FSW, you are free to work for any one. Even if you do odd jobs then, they at least do not limit your employment prospects in terms of legal status (from CIC's perspective).

In practice, beware that it is harder for people to find relevant jobs in the long run and i know many PRs who were forced to drive trucks or do one job at a time along with a local certification to get eligible for HR related position. So it is a long and tough way.

To conclude Human resources is not a profession Canada is short on. Plus an HR role here involves knowing legal stuff in Canada that requires local exposure and at least certification that is local (if not local degree). So i would not be very comfortable with that as a profession here since i know people struggling with that.

Bottom line, please realize that finding relevant job here is tough for some professions - such as yours. It has less to do with being on temp status or PR as opposed to actual profession.

 

[amir214]

Sure - no this is wrong info. If you come as a temp worker, you have to stick to the same job unless you find another employer for a job in your profession who would get LMO and then you get another work permit, which is very hard. Even then on the same work permit, you can only work for ONLY THAT EMPLOYER and even that is for a limited period of time.

It is far better to apply for FSW (which might take a year or two to complete) but you don't need a job before hand, just need to qualify on points chart for that based upon your age, education, job experience, language ability etc. Even if you don't find a job at first in your profession after landing as a PR via FSW, you are free to work for any one. Even if you do odd jobs then, they at least do not limit your employment prospects in terms of legal status (from CIC's perspective).

In practice, beware that it is harder for people to find relevant jobs in the long run and i know many PR's who were forced to drive trucks or do one job at a time along with a local certification to get eligible for HR related position. So it is a long and tough way.

To conclude Human resources is not a profession Canada is short on. Plus an HR role here involves knowing legal stuff in Canada that requires local exposure and at least certification that is local (if not local degree). So i would not be very comfortable with that as a profession here since i know people struggling with that.

Bottom line, please realize that finding relevant job here is tough for some professions - such as yours. It has less to do with being on temp status or PR as opposed to actual profession.

Thank you so much brother for brief explanation.. im alsoo looking for Aviation jobs because i had been working at karachi airport with many international Airlines..remember in me your prayers