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[jiawan]

Name : Jamshaid Iqbal
DOB : 2nd april 1986
SSC : year 2000-2002 and percentage is 66% (Secondary school certificat)
HSSC : year 2002-2004 and percentage is 54% (higher secondary school certificate) there was one supply in mathematics which i clear in 1st atmp
BSC : year 2004- 2006 bachelor of sciences (2 years degree program from punjab universty)
year 2006-2007 i went to malaysia on study visa but i didnot complete my course there and come back after one year
year 2007-2008 Certificate in Surveying from punjab technical Board (achieved A+)
year 2008 to Till date i am working in United Arab Emirates (Land Surveyor)
Funds shown in 2 accounts (2.2 million Pkr in one saving account , 5 lac in another current account and 1.5 million of loan amount) both accounts are under my name.
Ielts (6.5)
Sait: south alberta institue of technology (2 years Geomatic engineering diploma completly matchs with my previous studies and my job, not offerd in pakistan as well)

The above mentioned details are my profile and i want suggestions from seniors that if i apply for a student visa with these details what are the chances that i will get a visa. i am just very much concerned about my visa thats y wanted to be sure about everything b4 proceding. all your suggestions are welcome and please tell me if by anyway i can make my case strong. please give me suggestions i really need toknow this.. ALL SENIORS PLEASSE HELP !!!!! ​

 

[jiawan]

Need Help Please !!!! guide me please !!!! :

 

[asad100101]

is student visa for malaysia on your current passport which u will send for CHC?

Why didn't you study there?

this is your negative point.

your high school grades are not good at all.

This is another negative point.

In what division, did you pass your BSC?

It just shows that you have never been a serious student.

Diplomas mean nothing. You need to earn a 4 year degree then a master degree then you can compete with the best. Diplomas mean zero,nada in real world.

You should have earned a degree right after high school but I guess you could not so because your grades were so bad so that you could not get admisison into a decent university for degree. Am I right?

Again, you are going for a diploma and then you'll get married with a girl there and settle there. Right?

So your are not a bonafide student and you will not come back to your homeland after completing your studies. So You have another purpose other than studies so we can't grant you a visa.

Sorry for being blunt but that's how a VO is going to think after studying your profile. However, there is no harm in appying. Keep faith in God because visas are just pure luck me thinks!

 

[jiawan]

@ asad100101 my dear thnx for ur dis-hurting explaination but dont look at all the negative points . i am already employed and my current monthly salary is around 2500 canadian dollar and that is plus point coz visa officer will think about it once atleast coz i m sure i cant earn more than this in canada especially on student visa right.. 2ndly my current designation is land surveyor and thats what i want to study .. and why i am taking this diploma coz this diploma is recognized by the canadian land surveyor association, its charterd by the charterd institute of land surveyors UK and thats gonna matter and also this diploma will equipe me with the latest practices of the surveying and geomatics.. i have clearly stated in the SOP that i have alot of money back home and property as well plus i have strong plans to start a company back here for GIS/SURVEYING services .. and thats a plus point as well..

beleive me my friend its up to us whether we can satisfy the visa officer or not... doesnot matter about grades coz i am already accepted to a high standard institute in canada.. so grades only matters for admission not for visa... for visa 2 things matter 1. funds 2. ties
and i supply enough evidence to make sure that visa officer didnot get any mole about any of the above mentioned points..

i did my home work and i m gonna take the visa coz i m sure about it inshallah .. i jus asked for people suggestions bcoz i wanted to know whats their opinion .. and by the way visa officer dont think the same way u do ... u only saw one asspect of my file the other aspect is invisible to you....

 

[yasirriaz50]

@SUggest me also

SSC 78% 1999-2001
HSSC 61% 2002-2004
Engineering 75% august 2009

Internships in Nishat Fsd , Reliance , Again Reliance

Worked As a researcher for German Company on materials in 2009

Member of Student World Assembly UK

Received scholarshp for ITLAY (nO 1 ranked uni in italy for management studies)2009

Received Schloarship in UK for Management studies 2010,so received my visa for 2 years

Got admission in George Brown College in 2010?

showing 32000 CD$ in my personal account and 10000 CD$ in my mother's account,500 CD$ monthly salry of my brother.and almost 400000 CD$ property in name of my father and mother.?

 

[asad100101]

Jiwan, don't take my comments personally. I wanted to assess your profile like if I were in VO's shoes. I wanted to give you a fair assessment instead of hurting you. These white people are heartless and emotionless people unlike South Asians. They don't give a hoot to your future/career . They just go by the book. They follow rules. If they detect that you have been a non-serious student, they won't issue you a visa. Getting admitted into a school means nothing, there are so many schools who want to earn easy money will give you admission wihout IELTS and ignore your grades.

My cousin was admitted into a top Canadian University Macgill, scored IELTS 8.0 and showed over $100,000 for funds but what, he was rejected on the basis of showing a non-geniune experience letter from a company b/c showing a fake documet was against their law. They could not issue him a visa. Admitting into a top school means nothing if you dont satisfy other requirements. It was unusual to work in Pakistan for a company right after graduating from High School. It arose suspicion.

Let me know why you did not study in Malaysia. Why did you come back to Pakistan without completing your studies? It shows that you wasted hard-earned money for nothing and there is a high chnace that you won't complete studies either in Canada. It shows that you are not serious.

You can write whatever you want about your future plans. Our politicians are true examples of talking heads.


Anyways, you will come to know final outcome when you apply for a visa. It's all luck, okay. We can speculate whatever we want but I just pointed out a little weaklink in your case. Nothing else. I wanted best for you that's why I gave you a fair assessment.

 

[asad100101]

@ SUggest me also

SSC 78% 1999-2001
HSSC 61% 2002-2004
Engineering 75% august 2009

Internships in Nishat Fsd , Reliance , Again Reliance

Worked As a researcher for German Company on materials in 2009

Member of Student World Assembly UK

Received scholarshp for ITLAY (nO 1 ranked uni in italy for management studies)2009

Received Schloarship in UK for Management studies 2010,so received my visa for 2 years

Got admission in George Brown College in 2010?

showing 32000 CD$ in my personal account and 10000 CD$ in my mother's account,500 CD$ monthly salry of my brother.and almost 400000 CD$ property in name of my father and mother.?

Your profile sounds great. However, let me tell you one thing. It happened in real world. It would keep you on your feet. One of my cousins got a US visa for his Masters but he did not go there for studies due to his whatever personal reasons. He again applied for US visa after a long while. His previous visa(whatever duration was left) was cancelled and he was unable to renew his visa next time. He waited for many years to fulfill his dream of living abroad through Canadian points based immigration. When you get a visa from a country, you should avail it instead of wasting it. It is looked down upon negatively. It shows that you are not serious with your studies and you have motives other than studies. Just a word of caution.

Let me know why you are not persuing your studies in UK because you also got a visa. Visa officers are ordinary people like us, will think in the same way and would like to know why you are not persuing your studies in UK and wants to go to Canada instead. What's the logic behind this? Do you want to immigrate in Canada after completing your studies?

 

[jiawan]

@ asad for everything there is a reason ur couson got rejected because of a reason and that reason was genuine . he put fake documents and thats totally unacceptable as it is a crime.. in my case all my documents are genuine and i am not working in pakistan i am working in uae and it can be proved very easily as i am still on the job and they can call my employer anytime ,they are most welcome .. about the malaysia thing i give a good justification for that and i m sure thats gonna give me a plus point rather then a negative point and will prove my ties back home. anyways no offence brother but it doesnot depend on the luck it depends on the how u present ur case to the visa officer i saw some people they got there visa from here even though they got 4 years gap in studies and some were non serious students at all... but what they do they put a nice SOP and they give a good justification .. so it all depends on how u satisfy the V O

 

[yasirriaz50]

@asad

when i applied for UK visa after some time bcz of the current circumstances in UK i sent email and fax to embassy that i want to withdraw my case and i dont need visa and they replied me that we have received ur applicationn and we are sending back ur doc.but they send me visa for 2 years.

 

[yasirriaz50]

@jiwan

i agree with u.u have strong points.

@asad
and showing fake doc in UK embassy and they restrict the applicant that he can't apply for visa for next 10 years.what u say?

 

[asad100101]

Well, I know things cut both ways. Sometimes you get visas for being honest sometimes you don't. I have seen both cases. sometimes you get visas by covering your loophole with a dummy evidence and it works. In the end, it is all your luck. That's what I meant. If getting a visa is written in your faith by God, you'll get it even with or without proper documentation.

As a visa officer, why should I look at positive aspect of your case only why not negative? A strong case should not have any negative points me thinks.

Anyways, your case was still better than that of my cousin because he was out of studies for 4 years straight due to his family problems and was not working either.

Visa officers are aware of the fact that 98% students immigrate from South Asia to USA/Canada. That's a fact. No matter how good your SOP is, they'll like to consider other aspects of the documentaion into consideration. Don't you think my cousin did not write a good SOP. He did. Still he got an interview call. It is just on your luck and who is going to look at your file. Not all Visa officers are the same in their thinking.

Just apply with a positive frame of mind and leave everything in God's hands. My two cents.

 

[asad100101]

@ asad

when i applied for UK visa after some time bcz of the current circumstances in UK i sent email and fax to embassy that i want to withdraw my case and i dont need visa and they replied me that we have received ur applicationn and we are sending back ur doc.but they send me visa for 2 years.

If you have a true justification for your case, well and good. I just made you aware of this point in your case. That's all. All I am saying is that you should have valid reasons for everything you present in your case.

Thank you.

 

[jiawan]

@ yasir u got a very very good case and its quite stronger and i m sure that if u present ur case in a good way for sure u will get the visa .. there is no doubt about it ... i m sure inshallah

@ asad brother i know how these white peoples are i m dealing and working with them from almost more than 2 years now but beleive me not all of them are same. jus remember they will never reject u without a reason there must be a reason always .. because if they do they have to justify it ... and one more thing when we apply for the visa they know what our intentions are and 99% of people go there they study there and they get the PR for sure even if they dont want to stay there but they do this and canadian embessy dont have any problem with that.. the only thing they dont want is after going there u dont leave ur studies and dont get illegal.. thats all...
they need skilled peoples but they want to be sure that some one with bad background like criminal, cheaters etc dont get in..
in ur couson case i do accept that he has a good bank statement plus good ielts score but what he did is a big mistake by him , fake documents and that leave a big black spot in his file whenever he gonna apply they gonna look at that .... so the point is when u do something wrong then expect the same results as well...
but beleive me some ppl with jus HSSC certificates and with big gapes in the study got the visa .
my suggestion is that u also prepare ur case in a good way dont use fake documents , use a nice SOP, a good bank statement , some property and some other assets in ur family name and if it is under ur name than it is perfect , jus use these details and i m sure u gonna get it .. be positive.

and i get ur point about my profile that malaysian visa and incomplete study but look at it from another angle that i come back home because of my family problems some thing unavoidable so it will prove that my family does matters to me more than anything .. so its a positive point in this aspect...

but still i know that there are 50 ,50 chances . if i get the visa fine if i didnot doesnot matter then i have a plan B heheeh .. always make a plan B because u dont know when u gonna need it ...

 

[asad100101]

@ jiwan

Thanks for your input. Everyone's mistakes are infront of me and I am not going to make same blunders.

To discuss things together make strong/weak points look obvious to each other and i hope you should take my comments in a positive way.

I am happy that you are aware of your malyasian thing and you have a justification for it as well. You are good to go.

Same in yasir's case, I raised the point of not studying in UK even though he got a visa for studies there.

He has a justification for this so he is good to go as well.

 

[jiawan]

yea bro not a problem i got ur point and this was something in my mind as well that i know very well. but i have to change my passport if i want to hide it and i dont want to do that coz my passport got a good history of travels outside pakistan and its a plus point as well i guess...

and i totally agree with u we are here to share to each other and to guide each other so that others can avoid the mistakes which we make...

and keep on posting and i really hope that we get through this by the way did u put ur case in embessy or not yet .