went on an interview in vienna.I got refused and now they dont let me go back

[ReMack]

Hi everyone.
My situation is not simple. I went for an interview in vienna for spousal sponsorship. I got refused because they didnt like my wife's workplace. I flew back to Toronto and they didnt let me in. I was sitting at immigration at the airport for 5 hours and nobody talked to me. After they told me that I have 2 options: 1 is to leave canada with the next flight and drop my applicaton for visiting. 2nd is that I dont agree and they handcuff me and put me in a cell for the night .She said I gonna be deported and I cant come back for a year.so I diceded to leave and drop my appl. to enter to canada.I told them I want to talk to my wife but they said I cant contact with anyone. I arrived at 11:40 am and left canada at 17:35. they didnt let me to contract with anyone aqnd they were rude.What can I do?

 

[rhcohen2014]

there has to be more to it than them "not liking your wife's workplace". Be happy they let you withdraw your application to visit. That means you are not banned from entering the country. I would thing the best thing to do at this point is to order your application notes (i forget what they are called exactly, but something like GMCS notes?) There are threads about how to order them. It's $5 CA. This will let you know what notes the visa officer has written in your file, and give you an idea how to proceed. Your options are to either appeal (i think this is within 30 days of denial) or start all over with a stronger application.

 

[Carlaganda23]

Hi everyone.
My situation is not simple. I went for an interview in vienna for spousal sponsorship. I got refused because they didnt like my wife's workplace. I flew back to Toronto and they didnt let me in. I was sitting at immigration at the airport for 5 hours and nobody talked to me. After they told me that I have 2 options: 1 is to leave canada with the next flight and drop my applicaton for visiting. 2nd is that I dont agree and they handcuff me and put me in a cell for the night .She said I gonna be deported and I cant come back for a year.so I diceded to leave and drop my appl. to enter to canada.I told them I want to talk to my wife but they said I cant contact with anyone. I arrived at 11:40 am and left canada at 17:35. they didnt let me to contract with anyone aqnd they were rude.What can I do?

What do you mean they didn't like your wife's workplace? It's not the ground for refusal, is our wife is in social assistance or in welfare? Does your sponsor have kids? She might not meet the Low Income Cut if she has dependent children.

 

[aminata2010]

If you want honest and sound information..it's best to be honest with the whole story.

 

[truesmile]

If you want honest and sound information..it's best to be honest with the whole story.

PLUS 1 !!!

 

[taffy7]

They would have told you at Toronto why then wouldn't let you back in,i am assuming that they think you are going to live here and not leave. There are many great and knowledgeable people on this forum ,let them advise you . You have to be honest . No need to feel embarrassed, just tell the truth . No one is here to judge,just help.

 

[zardoz]

What do you mean they didn't like your wife's workplace? It's not the ground for refusal, is our wife is in social assistance or in welfare? Does your sponsor have kids? She might not meet the Low Income Cut if she has dependent children.

There is NO LICO for a spousal sponsorship..

 

[Carlaganda23]

There is NO LICO for a spousal sponsorship..

Yes there is, I read a thread here that she was refused because she didn't meet the Low Income Cut Off because she has dependent children that has kids too...

So, her Spousal Sponsorship was refused.

 

[mikeymyke]

CIC can't refuse an applicant because they don't like their workplace, there's got to be more to the story.

 

[zardoz]

Yes there is, I read a thread here that she was refused because she didn't meet the Low Income Cut Off because she has dependent children that has kids too...

So, her Spousal Sponsorship was refused.

And where in your original post did you mention the dependant kids of dependant kids? That's a different and very specific condition, which applies to the applicant, not the sponsor, if I remember correctly. Please give a citation.

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/applications/guides/3900ETOC.asp

prove that you have sufficient income to provide basic requirements for your spouse or common-law partner’s dependent children. To do this, you must provide documents showing your financial resources for the past 12 months. This requirement applies only when dependent children who have dependent children of their own are included on the application.

 

[Carlaganda23]

And where in your original post did you mention the dependant kids of dependant kids? That's a different and very specific condition, which applies to the applicant, not the sponsor, if I remember correctly. Please give a citation.

Hi Zardoz,

I couldn't find it, but yes the Sponsor was not able to meet the LICO because her dependent kids has a dependent children.
I've seen it here few months ago in this forum.

 

[SenoritaBella]

LICO would apply to the sponsor, not applicant. If you are sponsoring:

a) a spouse/common-law partner or conjugal partner who has dependent children who have dependent children of their own, or

b) a dependent child who has dependent children of his or her own,

then you have to complete the "Financial Evaluation" form (IMM 1283) instead. The sponsor has to meet LICO requirements in this case.

Sometimes if a sponsor is approved to sponsor but later fails behind in child support payments for instance, an officer may ask the spouse being sponsored to demonstrate that they can provide for their family. If they can't do this, the PR visa could be rejected on grounds of financial inadmissibility.

And where in your original post did you mention the dependant kids of dependant kids? That's a different and very specific condition, which applies to the applicant, not the sponsor, if I remember correctly. Please give a citation.

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/applications/guides/3900ETOC.asp

 

[taffy7]

So are you saying SenoritaBella that if a sponsor loses her job or fails to pay child support and has dependent children she could fail to lose the sponsorship that she was already approved on at the start of the application.Surely if her children has children she wouldn't be paying child support at that age .Forgive me for being naive, i am just trying to learn so i would be able to give back to the forum when i am more knowledgeable.

 

[zardoz]

LICO would apply to the sponsor, not applicant. If you are sponsoring:

a) a spouse/common-law partner or conjugal partner who has dependent children who have dependent children of their own, or

b) a dependent child who has dependent children of his or her own,

then you have to complete the "Financial Evaluation" form (IMM 1283) instead. The sponsor has to meet LICO requirements in this case.

Sometimes if a sponsor is approved to sponsor but later fails behind in child support payments for instance, an officer may ask the spouse being sponsored to demonstrate that they can provide for their family. If they can't do this, the PR visa could be rejected on grounds of financial inadmissibility.

The point is that they have to be the applicants dependants, not the sponsors dependants for this conditional to apply.

 

[rhcohen2014]

Surely if her children has children she wouldn't be paying child support at that age

not necessarily, i think this refers to teenage parents, like if a girl or boy who is still dependant on their parents has a baby... that baby is a dependant's dependant. i'm not sure what the rules are in canada about the age limit for claiming a child as dependant. in the us, it can certainly be over 18 because many kids in college are still being claimed as dependant by their parents.

and it does not seem to be talking about a sponsor that has dependants... an APPLICANT who's dependant has a dependant.