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Visitor Visa Rejection - Family Ties Outside Canada

fenrir247

Member
Oct 16, 2024
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I recently received a visa rejection for a temporary visitor visa.

The reason was the following:

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• I am not satisfied that you will leave Canada at the end of your stay as required by
paragraph 179(b) of the IRPR (https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/regulations/SOR-2002-227/
section-179.html). I am refusing your application because you have not established that you will
leave Canada, based on the following factors:
• You do not have significant family ties outside Canada.
• The purpose of your visit to Canada is not consistent with a temporary stay given the
details you have provided in your application.

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My purpose for travel is tourism i.e shopping, exploring Toronto, sightseeing, and and visiting a family member who is married with kids and lives in Canada and is a citizen. The duration was 2 weeks.

I am a young adult and resident in a GCC country with a long term (think 10 year) residence visa and have a multi 6-figure salary at a global multinational corporation in my country of residence. I included my employment letter in my application of course. My original nationality is from the subcontinent (think India/Pakistan/Bangladesh/Nepal).

As part of my application you can submit very limited documents on the portal. Nevertheless, I provided a fair amount of information, including property ownership in said GCC country, >6 figure brokerage account, bank statements with over C$15k of cash.

My travel history also included visits to multiple trips recently to countries in Asia, Eastern Europe, Western Europe. I also hold a 10 year visitor visa issued recently by another Western country which I included in my application, including trips to and from this country completed recently. This should show intention to return back quite consistently and not to overstay.

My entire direct family (parents and siblings) live together in a single household with me. I am single so not married. I had included their names and identification as part of my application.

Given all of the above, I was puzzled by the rejection. I clearly have family ties in my country of residence and have shown it, and believe the reason I have given for travel does indeed fit within what is appropriate for a TRV which includes visiting for holiday and to visit family: https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/application/application-forms-guides/guide-5256-applying-visitor-visa-temporary-resident-visa.html

Eager to hear experienced members' thoughts on how you think I can bolster my application further so that it can be accepted. I have 10 weeks until I was planning to visit Canada.
 

canuck78

VIP Member
Jun 18, 2017
55,491
13,480
I recently received a visa rejection for a temporary visitor visa.

The reason was the following:

+++++++++++

• I am not satisfied that you will leave Canada at the end of your stay as required by
paragraph 179(b) of the IRPR (https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/regulations/SOR-2002-227/
section-179.html). I am refusing your application because you have not established that you will
leave Canada, based on the following factors:
• You do not have significant family ties outside Canada.
• The purpose of your visit to Canada is not consistent with a temporary stay given the
details you have provided in your application.

+++++++++++

My purpose for travel is tourism i.e shopping, exploring Toronto, sightseeing, and and visiting a family member who is married with kids and lives in Canada and is a citizen. The duration was 2 weeks.

I am a young adult and resident in a GCC country with a long term (think 10 year) residence visa and have a multi 6-figure salary at a global multinational corporation in my country of residence. I included my employment letter in my application of course. My original nationality is from the subcontinent (think India/Pakistan/Bangladesh/Nepal).

As part of my application you can submit very limited documents on the portal. Nevertheless, I provided a fair amount of information, including property ownership in said GCC country, >6 figure brokerage account, bank statements with over C$15k of cash.

My travel history also included visits to multiple trips recently to countries in Asia, Eastern Europe, Western Europe. I also hold a 10 year visitor visa issued recently by another Western country which I included in my application, including trips to and from this country completed recently. This should show intention to return back quite consistently and not to overstay.

My entire direct family (parents and siblings) live together in a single household with me. I am single so not married. I had included their names and identification as part of my application.

Given all of the above, I was puzzled by the rejection. I clearly have family ties in my country of residence and have shown it, and believe the reason I have given for travel does indeed fit within what is appropriate for a TRV which includes visiting for holiday and to visit family: https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/application/application-forms-guides/guide-5256-applying-visitor-visa-temporary-resident-visa.html

Eager to hear experienced members' thoughts on how you think I can bolster my application further so that it can be accepted. I have 10 weeks until I was planning to visit Canada.
Assume one of the issues is being in a 3rd country and especially one that does not provide pathways to citizenship. Canada sees many try to move to Canada because of their inability to secure a guaranteed longterm future in GCC countries and they could be required to leave at any point. Your family being in GCC is not considered a tie and if your family status is dependent solely on your work permit then it creates even less ties. Western European travel, especially recent travel, should help if for tourism purposes. Also visiting extended family alone as a young single male is not necessarily the norm when it comes to purpose of travel and neither is shopping when coming from GCC which has some of the best shopping with no tax or very low sales tax.
 
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fenrir247

Member
Oct 16, 2024
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Got it, thanks. My residence permit is not dependent on my work. That is the case for regular residence visas, but golden visas in the GCC are not tied to your employment, so even if I were to not have a job I would still have the right to reside and seek work in the GCC country for a decade.

Also, my family status is totally independent of my work permit. My dad has a job and his own golden visa here, and my other siblings also have their own independent golden visas. All are either employed, university students (with golden visa so decade long stay period regardless of work status), or business owners.

I will to elaborate further on the nature of the residence permit, family status, ties to the country, and a more detailed itinerary while I am there as part of my new submission.
 

canuck78

VIP Member
Jun 18, 2017
55,491
13,480
Got it, thanks. My residence permit is not dependent on my work. That is the case for regular residence visas, but golden visas in the GCC are not tied to your employment, so even if I were to not have a job I would still have the right to reside and seek work in the GCC country for a decade.

Also, my family status is totally independent of my work permit. My dad has a job and his own golden visa here, and my other siblings also have their own independent golden visas. All are either employed, university students (with golden visa so decade long stay period regardless of work status), or business owners.

I will to elaborate further on the nature of the residence permit, family status, ties to the country, and a more detailed itinerary while I am there as part of my new submission.
Would order GCMS notes to get exact refusal reasons so you can address them. Even with the golden visa it is only for 10 years and no option for citizenship.
 

fenrir247

Member
Oct 16, 2024
11
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Would order GCMS notes to get exact refusal reasons so you can address them. Even with the golden visa it is only for 10 years and no option for citizenship.
Correct, except renewal. It seems I need to order GCMS notes via a third party as I'm of course not Canadian and not in Canada which seems too risky to enable disclosure of personal information to a third party.