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Visiting and Giving Birth in Cananda?

Jan 1, 2016
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[size=10pt][size=10pt][size=10pt]Dear All,

I have some inquiries about visiting Canada:

me and my wife are Egyptian living in Zambia for work about 5 Years

my wife pregnant in fourth month and she want to deliver in Canada because she is not comfortable to do it in Zambia and as you know Egypt in a bit miss right know so she doesn't want to deliver there as well

1- what is the way forward to get a visit visa (can she get accepted or what is your advice)
2- what is best and cheapest town to get medical care
3- any other advice
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Jalex23

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sherifabdelaziz said:
[size=10pt][size=10pt][size=10pt]Dear All,

I have some inquiries about visiting Canada:

me and my wife are Egyptian living in Zambia for work about 5 Years

my wife pregnant in fourth month and she want to deliver in Canada because she is not comfortable to do it in Zambia and as you know Egypt in a bit miss right know so she doesn't want to deliver there as well

1- what is the way forward to get a visit visa (can she get accepted or what is your advice)
2- what is best and cheapest town to get medical care
3- any other advice
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Why come to Canada to deliver your baby all the way from Zambia when you can go to any other African country?
 
Jan 1, 2016
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Africa is not OK with medical care i have been here for over 5 years and my wife 11 years, and i am very sure of what i am saying even SA even Zimbabwe
 

scylla

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sherifabdelaziz said:
[size=10pt][size=10pt][size=10pt]Dear All,

I have some inquiries about visiting Canada:

me and my wife are Egyptian living in Zambia for work about 5 Years

my wife pregnant in fourth month and she want to deliver in Canada because she is not comfortable to do it in Zambia and as you know Egypt in a bit miss right know so she doesn't want to deliver there as well

1- what is the way forward to get a visit visa (can she get accepted or what is your advice)
2- what is best and cheapest town to get medical care
3- any other advice
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1. She will need to obtain a visitor visa. It's quite possible the visitor visa will be refused due to your nationality and the fact you are temporary residents in your current country. Even if the visitor visa is approved, it's entirely possible your wife will be refused entry into Canada when she arrives if CBSA sees she is pregnant and guesses she has come to Canada to give birth here.
2. The cheapest option is to have the child at home with the help of a midwife. But make sure you have $10K to $20K available in case there are complications and the child needs to be born in a hospital.
3. As mentioned above, it's quite possible the visitor visa will be refused or that your wife may be refused entry into Canada. So make sure you have a Plan B (i.e. what you will do if you can't come to Canada).
 

Jalex23

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Apr 12, 2013
4,463
369
Calgary
Category........
Visa Office......
CPP-Ottawa
NOC Code......
2171
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
05-09-2013
Doc's Request.
09-04-2014
AOR Received.
06-11-2013
Med's Request
05-04-2014
Med's Done....
20-05-2014
Passport Req..
07-07-2014
VISA ISSUED...
14-07-2014
LANDED..........
06-09-2014
sherifabdelaziz said:
Africa is not OK with medical care i have been here for over 5 years and my wife 11 years, and i am very sure of what i am saying even SA even Zimbabwe
Then Europe, Asia or any other place in America.... why Canada?

You need to give a convincing answer if you want to be given a visit visa. Just saying "Canada is a fine place" is an immediate refusal.
 
Jan 1, 2016
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we don't mind of any good country, we have looked at the other countries like US that can give benefits for our child mainly medical care, to make it short we are kind of people looking of peas and cool life that's it, and that's why we choose Canada (if you have any alternative country please advice, we are open minded)

P.S. we don't want him/her to lose the Egyptian citizenship as well
 

scylla

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VISA ISSUED...
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05-10-2010
sherifabdelaziz said:
we don't mind of any good country, we have looked at the other countries like US that can give benefits for our child mainly medical care, to make it short we are kind of people looking of peas and cool life that's it, and that's why we choose Canada (if you have any alternative country please advice, we are open minded)

P.S. we don't want him/her to lose the Egyptian citizenship as well
You're probably going to have challenges obtaining a visa to any country in North American or Europe. Most of these countries grant citizenship to those who are born in their countries - and try to do what they can to stop "birth tourism". Pick one country and apply for a visitor visa. It that visitor visa is refused, assume the rest will be as well - and you'll need to chose between giving birth in Zambia and Egypt.

Don't wait too long if you're applying to Canada. Visitor visas can take months to process.
 

nope

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sherifabdelaziz said:
we don't mind of any good country, we have looked at the other countries like US that can give benefits for our child mainly medical care, to make it short we are kind of people looking of peas and cool life that's it, and that's why we choose Canada (if you have any alternative country please advice, we are open minded)

P.S. we don't want him/her to lose the Egyptian citizenship as well
This forum is a good place for you to discuss this, because it is very unlikely that a visa officer will accept this as a valid reason for a tourist visa. Objections include:

- normal childbirth doesn't require extensive medical care, and so there isn't much difference between giving birth at home in Saskatchewan and in the Sick Kids Hospital of Toronto. No one travels 6,000 miles to find the finest hospital.

- if you do need the finest hospital, then you can't afford it. Insurance won't cover childbirth, unless (possibly) you bought it before your wife became pregnant.

- private hospitals in developing countries are easily the equal of Canadian hospitals, for routine matters.

- if you looked at the US thinking that it would give benefits to your child as regards medical care, then you haven't done much research. The US doesn't have those benefits even for its own citizens, unless you pay for them.

The visa officer will likely assume that you are, in fact, looking for a peaceful and cool life, likely in Canada, for your child if not for yourselves, and refuse you your visas. Or, as scylla points out, you'll be turned back at the border if visibly pregnant. They will not assume that it is a coincidence you are travelling so far to give birth in a country that offers birthright citizenship, which I believe no European or African countries do.

If that's what you're doing, I at least don't consider it particularly unethical, so long as you find a way to do it in a way that doesn't endanger your wife or child -- but regardless of your motives, you won't get a visa for it unless you develop an explanation for the visa officer that is more satisfactory.


Edit: if you are interested in the child gaining citizenship in a country that is not Egypt or Zambia, look at this article -- it has a list of countries in the world who practice unrestricted jus soli (citizenship by birth, and no other factors).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jus_soli

The US and Canada are probably the most difficult of them all to get into for this purpose -- but some of the others are perfectly acceptable, if you are hoping your child will have opportunities or security. My apologies, if you find this interpretation of your motives insulting, I don't mean it like that -- I myself immigrated to Canada after my first child was born, and completely share the urge to have them be a citizen of a stable and just country. It's just that it's a lot harder to arrange it by birth . . . Good luck!
 

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I'm assuming that you have done sufficient research to already be aware of this, but for anyone else reading this thread.,having a Canadian citizen child gives the parents no extra rights or privilege in Canada. The child might be able to apply to sponsor you in 20+ years, but that's all.
 

Cdazzle

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Jan 4, 2016
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I have friends who have given birth in Canada and US. Infact I had my baby in one of d 2 countries I just mentioned. It is not against their constitution to give birth in these countries just show sufficient funds to cater for hospital bills and what not. Then ensure u leave for delivery early to avoid complications. Also make your research on safe PoEs and follow same route. Lastly have and keep faith! Nothing is impossible if you believe.