URGENT Tiger and other members !! PGWP for PG diploma

[PRINCE007]

Hi I wanna info about PGWP in canada as there are three different duration of PG diploma i.e 8 months 2 SEM (1 academic year), 1 year 3 SEM (1 academic year), and 16 months 4SEM (2 academic year).

Most of college's 1 year course's are of 8 month duration i.e 2 sem, However I have applied to centennial college (international business management) which is 3 semester and its 1 year program (3rd sem is internship which is optional ) total fees is $18000 ($ 4000 is for unpaid internship) so if you only study 2 sem it will cost $ 14000 and as per college confirmation u will get 1 year PGWP (even if you drop internship )coz on certification course duration will be 12 months so my confusion is for all 8 months program which are offerd by george brown & other colleges what will be work permit duration will 8 months course which is 1 year academic as per canadian govt lead to 8 month PGWP or 12 months PGWP ..and centennial fees is $18000 where as GBC fee is $12800 but my concern is PGWP in both college please confirm

Further more regarding loan if I go to centennial college 1 year course which is $18000 (80% comes to 14400+ 10000 living ) so total is 24400*53 canadian dollar rate total would be close to 13 lacks which is damn hard to get loan of such huge amt please advice thanks

 

[PRINCE007]

Moreover I wanna know what is credit hours for PG diploma course and what is eligibility to get 3 year PGWP i mean what are credit hours required to get 3 years PGWP coz its bit complicated from what i heard and seen from people's experience for those who are doing 2 years of PG Diploma some are getting 3 years of PGWP and few people are getting only 2 years of work permit and same case with all those who are doing two consecutive 1 year diploma course some getting 3 years and some getting 2 year so whats truth and whats criteria every one is saying it depends on course and all blah blah thing but is there not any specific thing that to get 3 year PGWP you require so and so credit hours please need your inputs to clarify this thanks a ton

 

[Jitu1011]

Hi Prince,

You need to first why you want to study, "If it is just to land in canada, specially for PR" I will suggest go for 2years course in any college as that will fetch you 3years work permit. (if you got graduation letter from college saying completed two academic year course you will get 3yrs work permit, no doubts or confusion in this as Immigration officer are not concerned on anything else and i have very nice experience in this)

Secondly, if your planning well to get nice skills and then get settle in Canada based on your career, then I will suggest you to choose your course of study based on your best interest and skill. Try to get admission in any of top three 1) Geroge Brown (most pref) 2) Centennial (OK Type) 3) Mohawk.

Your success as student in canada based on three things
1)On campus job
2)Co-op (Paid) with good employer
3)Developed skills as per canadian market

all these things you can develop well only in GBC, you can earn back you invested money well in time and can save to start a living.

I hope I answered all queries well, remember one more thing "Iss rang bhari duniya mei koi rang pakka hai toh koi katcha hai, yaha(canada) dhoop mei paseena nahi ansoo behtey hai fhankaro (singers) ka yeh bol sacha hai"

 

[PRINCE007]

Hey Thanks Jitu for your reply.. I wanna tell u that my plan is also to get PR as well as get successful in career.

I know that 2 year program is almost a confirm 3 year work permit but the problem is dat I am not financial strong to study 2 year it requires 13-15 lakhs and we will not be able to work more than 20 hours per week as well as its really hard to work and pay for tution fees so all 2 year fee I have to pay from loan which I will get max of 8-9 lacks not more than that and more over I dnt know how exactly canada is I may like or not what is job condition and all so its better If I go for one year course den if I find good and If my financial stability is good I can manage another 7 lakhs some how to study 1 more year and den apply for PR but here also der is catch coz in some case even after 2 consecutive 1 year diploma ppl r not getting 3 year PGWP so just need some input on this .

 

[Jitu1011]

Hey Thanks Jitu for your reply.. I wanna tell u that my plan is also to get PR as well as get successful in career.

I know that 2 year program is almost a confirm 3 year work permit but the problem is dat I am not financial strong to study 2 year it requires 13-15 lakhs and we will not be able to work more than 20 hours per week as well as its really hard to work and pay for tution fees so all 2 year fee I have to pay from loan which I will get max of 8-9 lacks not more than that and more over I dnt know how exactly canada is I may like or not what is job condition and all so its better If I go for one year course den if I find good and If my financial stability is good I can manage another 7 lakhs some how to study 1 more year and den apply for PR but here also der is catch coz in some case even after 2 consecutive 1 year diploma ppl r not getting 3 year PGWP so just need some input on this .

Dont worry much for PR, there are some news in market that ministry are planning to change rules and after two months students who completed 1yr study and 1 yr work can apply PR under CEC class. I would suggest you to enroll for 1 yr course in GBC you can work 15-20hrs on campus, find cash job to cover living expenses, and after 6 months u will get off campus too and on completion of course you can secure a good job to cover your cost of study too. and if you have previous work exp in India (I would suggest bring some documented exp including IT return and Form 16 for salary) you can actually secure a job varying 24k-48k easily and if you are lucky, rules changes you can file for PR. Otherwise get your job extended through way of LMO and file PR.


On your current situation, apply for 1yr course in GBC 8-9lakhs is enough. and be determined to work hard

 

[tiger007]

Dont worry much for PR, there are some news in market that ministry are planning to change rules and after two months students who completed 1yr study and 1 yr work can apply PR under CEC class. I would suggest you to enroll for 1 yr course in GBC you can work 15-20hrs on campus, find cash job to cover living expenses, and after 6 months u will get off campus too and on completion of course you can secure a good job to cover your cost of study too. and if you have previous work exp in India (I would suggest bring some documented exp including IT return and Form 16 for salary) you can actually secure a job varying 24k-48k easily and if you are lucky, rules changes you can file for PR. Otherwise get your job extended through way of LMO and file PR.


On your current situation, apply for 1yr course in GBC 8-9lakhs is enough. and be determined to work hard

Hi,

I really wish..getting a job ..especially after these PG cert/diploma of colleges in Canada..were that easy. Yeah..you can get unskilled jobs..part time jobs/ off campus jobs during studies...but getting a full time skilled job (NOC-O,A or B) in Canada is a very big challenge..especially without any Canadian work ex and/or University degree.

Indian degrees and work experience are only good to the level..it can get you into Canada as a skilled worker..or get you admission to a good course in any of the Universities or colleges. The reality is..you not only need skills (both related to your field and soft) but also Canadian work experience to get a skilled job. Unless you are opting for a research line (any field) in publicly recognized universities OR passing out some really good course like MBA form a reputed university... or some Univ. programme in fields of science, engineering, health sciences etc. or trade courses which are in demand... till then getting a skilled job (which is a main requirement in most of the PNPs and Federal CEC) is very very difficult.

Of course there are options like the Saskatchewan province... which can get you PNP nomination and PR, by doing unskilled/any job (current rule states you need to dot hat for 1 year)... but how long those rules will last... it's difficult to predict(especially with recent rules change, which made Sask PNP more difficult.. earlier it was only 6 months work ex requirement) and some provinces like B.C, Alberta and Nova Scotia may accept selected semi-skilled (NOC-C) or unskilled (NOC-D) jobs. Also..often getting these full time unskilled/semi skilled jobs in these provinces require skills pertaining to the job and of-course you need to know people...You can aspire to do lower level jobs and get quick PR in provinces like Sask..after some pg level college courses...(which frankly most of us do)..but given current scenario..what if these rules completely change? Then what? For example..reports have started coming in...that Manitoba province(which has similar PNP student rules which allows unskilled job holders to apply for PNp and PR) will soon shut down..as Federal govt has decided to cut all funding's to MPNP.

To know more about various options available to international students go through this list of various official immigration programmes:
http://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/various-immigration-programmes-for-international-students-in-canada-t100908.0.html

So.. overall you NEED to find a skilled job (NOC O,A,or B)..to be sure..for your chances to immigrate. Or else..if you or others are unlucky..and the easier PNPs (like Sask.) shut down/change rules in future... then you may have to return home after completion of your PGWP.

Now..there are many PG cert/diploma courses in various Canadian colleges... offering internship/co-op/work ex term... and unless your course is either practical trade courses or higher level Master's courses in recognized public Universities...chances of getting an actual skilled job after these co-op is very low.

And don't even dream of getting a positive LMO approval with being in any job..NO! You will need to be doing a skilled job..which is in demand..so as to get a positive LMO report... which is quiet difficult and impossible with unskilled jobs.

So.. reality is... my friend..it's NOT at all easy to bag good jobs (and that PR) after these PG certificates that too without Canadian work ex. Our only hope is provinces like Sask..do a 2 years course,get a 3 years PGWP..and hope to make it in time..to be accomodated under this type of PNP (like Sask) or strive to find a skilled job in 3 years time. Hope you get the point.

 

[tiger007]

Hi I wanna info about PGWP in canada as there are three different duration of PG diploma i.e 8 months 2 SEM (1 academic year), 1 year 3 SEM (1 academic year), and 16 months 4SEM (2 academic year).

Most of college's 1 year course's are of 8 month duration i.e 2 sem, However I have applied to centennial college (international business management) which is 3 semester and its 1 year program (3rd sem is internship which is optional ) total fees is $18000 ($ 4000 is for unpaid internship) so if you only study 2 sem it will cost $ 14000 and as per college confirmation u will get 1 year PGWP (even if you drop internship )coz on certification course duration will be 12 months so my confusion is for all 8 months program which are offerd by george brown & other colleges what will be work permit duration will 8 months course which is 1 year academic as per canadian govt lead to 8 month PGWP or 12 months PGWP ..and centennial fees is $18000 where as GBC fee is $12800 but my concern is PGWP in both college please confirm

Further more regarding loan if I go to centennial college 1 year course which is $18000 (80% comes to 14400+ 10000 living ) so total is 24400*53 canadian dollar rate total would be close to 13 lacks which is damn hard to get loan of such huge amt please advice thanks

Moreover I wanna know what is credit hours for PG diploma course and what is eligibility to get 3 year PGWP i mean what are credit hours required to get 3 years PGWP coz its bit complicated from what i heard and seen from people's experience for those who are doing 2 years of PG Diploma some are getting 3 years of PGWP and few people are getting only 2 years of work permit and same case with all those who are doing two consecutive 1 year diploma course some getting 3 years and some getting 2 year so whats truth and whats criteria every one is saying it depends on course and all blah blah thing but is there not any specific thing that to get 3 year PGWP you require so and so credit hours please need your inputs to clarify this thanks a ton

Hi,

Most 1 year programmes (atleast these PG certificates ) have 30 to 35+ credit hours. Now, 2sem/8months full time study= 1 academic year. Yes..mostly you will get 1 year PGWP after these 1 year Ontario graduate certificate programmes (these courses are 1 year academic length)...but in some cases.. depending upon the VO and the credit hours of the course, one MAY get just 8 months PGWP..but chances are very less. So.. whether you do 3 sem course of Centennial or any 2 sem full time 1 year Ontario graduate certificate course..you will get 1 full year PGWP. Same holds true for 2 1 year consecutive courses..that you will get 3 years PGWP..but again..depending upon that individual VO issuing you PGWP..and the credit load of your studies..you MAY get a 2 years PGWP. This is even possible in extremely rare cases in a 2 years course too! It happens..because compared to University degrees(most publicly recognized universities and not lower grade pvt universities) have high quality content and the standards of their education are very high... and sometimes Master courses of less than 16 months even get 3 years PGWP.. because those courses have often more than 60+ credit hours in a time span of 12-18months!

So..if you are looking for just 1 year PGWP..doing a 2sem. months/academic year full time Ontario graduate certificate will BE ENOUGH. bUT..THE QUESTION YOU NEED TO ASK YOURSELF IS..WILL 1YEAR PGWP BE ENOUGH?

Best of Luck.

***All info provided, are to the best of my knowledge... and you should consult other sources too.

 

[silent_heart]

Secondly, if your planning well to get nice skills and then get settle in Canada based on your career, then I will suggest you to choose your course of study based on your best interest and skill. Try to get admission in any of top three 1) Geroge Brown (most pref) 2) Centennial (OK Type) 3) Mohawk.

Your success as student in canada based on three things
1)On campus job
2)Co-op (Paid) with good employer
3)Developed skills as per canadian market

all these things you can develop well only in GBC, you can earn back you invested money well in time and can save to start a living.

Hi Jitu1011,

Im also considering GBC. Can you elaborate why GBC is better than any other schools? I checked their reviews in reviews.collegetimes.us/ontario/george-brown-college/ and they advised to avoid this school. On the other hand, I checked their ranking in webometrics.info/rank_by_country.asp?country=ca&offset=50 and it ranked 2953th in Canada, If I'm not mistaken, it is better than any other colleges in Ontario.

 

[shadh]

guys im getting enrolled in a M.eng program ... the official duration is near 2 years (says on my offer letter "usually takes about two years to complete" ) ... now im in a fix because im thinking of completing it in THREE semesters. BUT, it will take FOUR semesters since my uni (uni of ottawa) doesnt offer courses for M.eng in the summer semester; so, now, when i graduate, this summer semester might appear as a blank semester, or not at all,

so, depending on that (enrolled for three sems, but took four sem's time on a two tear course), how is going to be the duration of my PGWP?