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Urgent please help me regarding the Caip Notes Codes I Received Today

umerrais79

Star Member
Nov 24, 2012
59
2
124
Karachi, Pakistan
Category........
Visa Office......
Islamabad than London
NOC Code......
2173
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
17-08-2005
Doc's Request.
sent with application
AOR Received.
30-08-2005
IELTS Request
sent with application
File Transfer...
29-09-2010 From Islamabad to London
Today I get my Caip Notes can any one read it and let me know what is written in it PSDEC=1 ON 30-05-2012 SELDEC=0, specially the point IMM 1017S REQUESTED: 3-08-2012 and in the last line File BF'D TO: TER ON 05-02-2013. It is so confusing because they requested me for my medical on 03-08-2012 but i dont get it until now and the last line ter on 05-02-2013, please any1 explain this
 

WAY

Hero Member
Mar 1, 2010
513
12
Pakistan
Category........
Visa Office......
London
NOC Code......
9212
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
Feb 22, 2010
Doc's Request.
April 06, 2010
AOR Received.
Aug 13, 2010
IELTS Request
Already done
File Transfer...
May 22, 2012
Med's Request
April 09, 2014 (Re-med)
Med's Done....
May 02, 2014 (Re-med)
Interview........
Hopefully Waived
Passport Req..
PPR-1 (May 13, 2014), PPR-2 (Jun 11, 2014
VISA ISSUED...
Jun 27, 2014
LANDED..........
Nov 2014, Permanent landing not decided yet
Its normal. In my CAIPS notes, it was written as "IMM-1017S requested on 30-5-2012" but i actually received meds & updated docs request on Oct 24, 12. However, my BFD was metioned as 07/07/12. Better to send a CSI to be further sure.

TER are the initials of that "Immigrations officer/ assisstant" who will review your file on subject date.

Hope that helps.

umerrais79 said:
Today I get my Caip Notes can any one read it and let me know what is written in it PSDEC=1 ON 30-05-2012 SELDEC=0, specially the point IMM 1017S REQUESTED: 3-08-2012 and in the last line File BF'D TO: TER ON 05-02-2013. It is so confusing because they requested me for my medical on 03-08-2012 but i dont get it until now and the last line ter on 05-02-2013, please any1 explain this
 

cocknbull

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Jan 20, 2012
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Dear I don't want to disappoint you but I think your application will be terminated and fees refunded according to law passed on June 29, 2012. According to this law if you don't have SELDEC=1 before March 29, 2012 your file will be terminated and fees refunded.

In some cases though correct SELDEC was not entered in CAIPS notes for pre 2008 applicants but visa officers were instructed to do a manual review of all cases and finalise that manual review by Nov 30, 2012. Ans you can see that now today is 15 Dec 2012 and Nov 30, 2012 has passed and you don't have SELDEC=1 in your notes.

Can you please tell when you ordered CAIPS notes and what is the date on your CAIPS notes that they extracted for you?

I hope and pray above will not come true for you and you will get your visa soon.

Please read the following. Thanks

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resources/manuals/bulletins/2012/ob442C.asp

Return of Fees for Certain Federal Skilled Worker Applications: Actions Required of Visa Offices

Summary

The Jobs, Growth and Long-term Prosperity Act became law on June 29, 2012. Under this legislation, Federal Skilled Worker (FSW) applications that were made before February 27, 2008 were terminated by operation of law if a decision based on FSW program selection criteria had not been made by an immigration officer before March 29, 2012.


Applications requiring manual review

A subset of all the FSW applications affected by the Jobs, Growth and Long-term Prosperity Act have been identified as requiring a manual review by visa offices to confirm they were in fact terminated by operation of law on June 29, 2012.

These FSW applications represent those for which a selection decision may have been established in case notes before March 29, 2012, but for which the decision code was not entered in CAIPS/GCMS.

This manual review will ensure that NHQ – Finance does not return fees in error for those applications where it is determined a selection decision was in fact made, but where CAIPS/GCMS data did not accurately reflect the decision code.

NHQ – Finance will provide visa offices with a spreadsheet listing FSW applications requiring a manual review of case notes. Visa offices should take the following steps in reviewing these applications, tracking the results, and returning the spreadsheet to NHQ – Finance:

The visa office will conduct a detailed review of the case notes in CAIPS/GCMS for each application listed in the spreadsheet provided by NHQ – Finance, and determine if a selection decision was in fact made before March 29, 2012 in accordance with the guidance provided in OB 442.
If it is determined that the application was in fact terminated by operation of law, the visa office will record the results of their manual case review as indicated in the spreadsheet provided by NHQ – Finance.
If it is determined that a selection decision had been made before March 29, 2012, and the application was not terminated by operation of law, that decision code should be entered by the visa office in CAIPS/GCMS and the results of the review should be noted in the case notes. The visa office will record the results of their manual case review as indicated in the spreadsheet provided by NHQ – Finance.
The visa office will forward the completed spreadsheet to NHQ – Finance by no later than November 30, 2012 at: FSWFeeReturn@cic.gc.ca.
Note: No further action is to be taken by visa offices with respect to terminated applications at this time.
 

maran1976

Hero Member
Feb 22, 2010
527
37
Category........
Visa Office......
New Delhi
NOC Code......
0111
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
14 April 2010
AOR Received.
26 Nov 2010 (2nd Aor Date)
Med's Request
28-02-2013
Med's Done....
6th March 2013
Interview........
hopefully waived
Passport Req..
Recvd by CHC Mar 13th
CocknBull has rightly opined. Since your SELDEC is 0, you will have your application returned as your are a pre feb 2008 applicant.
I also see that you are one of the litigants either in the Tim or David group. Your application processing will depend on the outcome of that Litigation. I sincerely hope you are with David Cohen.
 

umerrais79

Star Member
Nov 24, 2012
59
2
124
Karachi, Pakistan
Category........
Visa Office......
Islamabad than London
NOC Code......
2173
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
17-08-2005
Doc's Request.
sent with application
AOR Received.
30-08-2005
IELTS Request
sent with application
File Transfer...
29-09-2010 From Islamabad to London
cocknbull said:
Dear I don't want to disappoint you but I think your application will be terminated and fees refunded according to law passed on June 29, 2012. According to this law if you don't have SELDEC=1 before March 29, 2012 your file will be terminated and fees refunded.

In some cases though correct SELDEC was not entered in CAIPS notes for pre 2008 applicants but visa officers were instructed to do a manual review of all cases and finalise that manual review by Nov 30, 2012. Ans you can see that now today is 15 Dec 2012 and Nov 30, 2012 has passed and you don't have SELDEC=1 in your notes.

Can you please tell when you ordered CAIPS notes and what is the date on your CAIPS notes that they extracted for you?

I hope and pray above will not come true for you and you will get your visa soon.

Please read the following. Thanks

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resources/manuals/bulletins/2012/ob442C.asp

Return of Fees for Certain Federal Skilled Worker Applications: Actions Required of Visa Offices

Summary

The Jobs, Growth and Long-term Prosperity Act became law on June 29, 2012. Under this legislation, Federal Skilled Worker (FSW) applications that were made before February 27, 2008 were terminated by operation of law if a decision based on FSW program selection criteria had not been made by an immigration officer before March 29, 2012.


Applications requiring manual review

A subset of all the FSW applications affected by the Jobs, Growth and Long-term Prosperity Act have been identified as requiring a manual review by visa offices to confirm they were in fact terminated by operation of law on June 29, 2012.

These FSW applications represent those for which a selection decision may have been established in case notes before March 29, 2012, but for which the decision code was not entered in CAIPS/GCMS.

This manual review will ensure that NHQ – Finance does not return fees in error for those applications where it is determined a selection decision was in fact made, but where CAIPS/GCMS data did not accurately reflect the decision code.

NHQ – Finance will provide visa offices with a spreadsheet listing FSW applications requiring a manual review of case notes. Visa offices should take the following steps in reviewing these applications, tracking the results, and returning the spreadsheet to NHQ – Finance:

The visa office will conduct a detailed review of the case notes in CAIPS/GCMS for each application listed in the spreadsheet provided by NHQ – Finance, and determine if a selection decision was in fact made before March 29, 2012 in accordance with the guidance provided in OB 442.
If it is determined that the application was in fact terminated by operation of law, the visa office will record the results of their manual case review as indicated in the spreadsheet provided by NHQ – Finance.
If it is determined that a selection decision had been made before March 29, 2012, and the application was not terminated by operation of law, that decision code should be entered by the visa office in CAIPS/GCMS and the results of the review should be noted in the case notes. The visa office will record the results of their manual case review as indicated in the spreadsheet provided by NHQ – Finance.
The visa office will forward the completed spreadsheet to NHQ – Finance by no later than November 30, 2012 at: FSWFeeReturn @ cic.gc.ca.
Note: No further action is to be taken by visa offices with respect to terminated applications at this time.
maran1976 said:
CocknBull has rightly opined. Since your SELDEC is 0, you will have your application returned as your are a pre feb 2008 applicant.
I also see that you are one of the litigants either in the Tim or David group. Your application processing will depend on the outcome of that Litigation. I sincerely hope you are with David Cohen.
In my file it is written IMM1017- Medical Instructions issued on 03-08-2012. what does that mean?
 

cocknbull

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umerrais79 said:
In my file it is written IMM1017- Medical Instructions issued on 03-08-2012. what does that mean?
Hi!

Yes dear I saw that and at one point I thought they might issue you medicals (IMM 1017S Requested means medicals prepared but not sent yet and that happened on 3-8-12) but I also checked your last posts in which you stated that in Sep 2012 London VO told you that your application is rejected because of the law passed on June 29, 2012.

I tell you what happened in your case. You passed paper screening on 30-5-12 (PSDEC=1). Then they asked you for updated docs in June 2012 and they received your docs in August 2012 and IMM1017S was prepared on 3-8-12 (medicals prepared but not sent). But please note you did not pass selection decision (SELDEC) at that point (SELDEC=0) in August 2012 although IMM1017S was already prepared. So they checked your file and put that condition because you did not pass SELDEC before MArch 29, 2012 you are no longer eligible that is why they told you in Sep 2012 that you are not eligible.

I tell you one thing more that you ordered CAIPS a bit earlier. You should have waited till NOV 30, 2012 so visa office could have entered correct SELDEC in your case. Dead line for visa office to put correct SELDEC in files was Nov 30, 2012.

If I was you I would have waited till NOV 30, 2012 and order my caips or I will now order a new caips to see what is the latest SELDEC in my case if it is remained 0 or changed to 1.

As you have hired a lawyer so wait and see the outcome of that. I sincerely wish and pray you get your visa eventually...Good luck to you..

Hope it helps..Thanks
 

indusvision

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Can I ask how much time it took for you to get your CAIPS notes ? 30 days or more ?

Thanks!

umerrais79 said:
Today I get my Caip Notes can any one read it and let me know what is written in it PSDEC=1 ON 30-05-2012 SELDEC=0, specially the point IMM 1017S REQUESTED: 3-08-2012 and in the last line File BF'D TO: TER ON 05-02-2013. It is so confusing because they requested me for my medical on 03-08-2012 but i dont get it until now and the last line ter on 05-02-2013, please any1 explain this