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TRV Visitor Visa Denied

Tanikaze

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Jun 10, 2014
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Jalex23 said:
From what I can read you are more concerned on show us how you did everything right and can't do better, and not in trying to find mistakes in your application.

First of all I would recomend that you do a good analysis of your application and find any flaws that might come to mind. Trying to prove that "CIC made a mistake" is the worst attitude to get a VISA.


When you can come up with some arguments and or questions on what you did wrong then we can move forward.
That is most certainly not the case. The only mistake I can think of within my application is not submitting a travel itinerary of my own, since my friend already outlined the purpose of my visit and activities we'd do during the stay.

I don't see how they could deny me because of financial status when both me and my friend have presented ample evidence to the contrary.

As for not having enough ties towards my country, I had submitted my properties(House ownership papers) and a letter from my college that states I'm currently enrolled, studying and have payed for my education for the next years.
 

jay_007

Full Member
Jun 17, 2014
31
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hi ,

i had applied for TRV canada and got rejected and my refusal letter has only one REASON FOR REFUSAL ' No legitimate purpose of business travel '. Could anybody share if they have also being refused because of the same reason and what are the reasons for this kind of refusal and what to do inorder to overcome this reason, if i apply next time.

Travel History
I have a good travel history, visa of UK 3 times, 4 times been to europe, 2 times to canada and US and never over stayed or misutililised the durations. I have a valid 10 yr. US BUsiness visa. Also had previously got Canadian visa for 5 years multiple entry.

Documents Submitted
submitted all my documents but i by mistake missed my Bank statement and still the refusal letter didn't say anything about my financial funds being less or any other reason as my company was paying for the trip and also had two invitations from exhibitors.

the reasons i can think of are : -

1) i am unmarried - but got all the visas even the canadian visa earlier inspite of being unmarried.
2) Dual INTENT :- in 2008, had applied for PR but because of rules changed and my file was returned with a visa fees refund . in 2013 applied for visitor visa. Does this come under dual intent and could this be the indirect reason for denying visitor visa.

seniors Please advice
 

Jalex23

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09-04-2014
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07-07-2014
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14-07-2014
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06-09-2014
jay_007 said:
hi ,

i had applied for TRV canada and got rejected and my refusal letter has only one REASON FOR REFUSAL ' No legitimate purpose of business travel '. Could anybody share if they have also being refused because of the same reason and what are the reasons for this kind of refusal and what to do inorder to overcome this reason, if i apply next time.

Travel History
I have a good travel history, visa of UK 3 times, 4 times been to europe, 2 times to canada and US and never over stayed or misutililised the durations. I have a valid 10 yr. US BUsiness visa. Also had previously got Canadian visa for 5 years multiple entry.

Documents Submitted
submitted all my documents but i by mistake missed my Bank statement and still the refusal letter didn't say anything about my financial funds being less or any other reason as my company was paying for the trip and also had two invitations from exhibitors.

the reasons i can think of are : -

1) i am unmarried - but got all the visas even the canadian visa earlier inspite of being unmarried.
2) Dual INTENT :- in 2008, had applied for PR but because of rules changed and my file was returned with a visa fees refund . in 2013 applied for visitor visa. Does this come under dual intent and could this be the indirect reason for denying visitor visa.

seniors Please advice

Please stop flooding the forum. One post is enough.
 

fkl

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Apr 25, 2013
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jay_007 said:
hi ,

i had applied for TRV canada and got rejected and my refusal letter has only one REASON FOR REFUSAL ' No legitimate purpose of business travel '. Could anybody share if they have also being refused because of the same reason and what are the reasons for this kind of refusal and what to do inorder to overcome this reason, if i apply next time.

Travel History
I have a good travel history, visa of UK 3 times, 4 times been to europe, 2 times to canada and US and never over stayed or misutililised the durations. I have a valid 10 yr. US BUsiness visa. Also had previously got Canadian visa for 5 years multiple entry.

Documents Submitted
submitted all my documents but i by mistake missed my Bank statement and still the refusal letter didn't say anything about my financial funds being less or any other reason as my company was paying for the trip and also had two invitations from exhibitors.

the reasons i can think of are : -

1) i am unmarried - but got all the visas even the canadian visa earlier inspite of being unmarried.
2) Dual INTENT :- in 2008, had applied for PR but because of rules changed and my file was returned with a visa fees refund . in 2013 applied for visitor visa. Does this come under dual intent and could this be the indirect reason for denying visitor visa.

seniors Please advice
So what did you state as the intent of the visit? Any supporting documents for business needs? E.g. if you were to see a client, was there a letter or some thing else attached? "Purpose of visit" is a pretty common basis of refusals.
 

SenoritaBella

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12-02-2014
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02-11-2015
Med's Done....
18-09-2013
Passport Req..
02-11-2015
VISA ISSUED...
hopefully soon
LANDED..........
hopefully soon
1. Is your friend just a friend, or more than a friend? ;) Visa officers have a way to 'smell' these things from a distance.
2. What kind of proof of employment did your host(friend) provide? They usually prefer hard proof like tax documents of the most recent year e.g. T4 slips, notice of assessment, letter from employer confirming employment, etc. The longer you have worked in one place, the better because it shows stability.
3. Did you provide your transcripts of the most current academic year? Receipt of paid tuition for that academic year?
4. Did you include proof of relationship? If you are friends, may be a few emails from the start of your friendship, some over time and some as you planned to visit or even include some photos of both of you?

Tanikaze said:
That is most certainly not the case. The only mistake I can think of within my application is not submitting a travel itinerary of my own, since my friend already outlined the purpose of my visit and activities we'd do during the stay.

I don't see how they could deny me because of financial status when both me and my friend have presented ample evidence to the contrary.

As for not having enough ties towards my country, I had submitted my properties(House ownership papers) and a letter from my college that states I'm currently enrolled, studying and have payed for my education for the next years.
 

jay_007

Full Member
Jun 17, 2014
31
2
fkl said:
So what did you state as the intent of the visit? Any supporting documents for business needs? E.g. if you were to see a client, was there a letter or some thing else attached? "Purpose of visit" is a pretty common basis of refusals.
PUrpose of visit : There were two invitations from organisers for attending exhibition in toronto and my present and past job has been holding exhibitions inorder to promote our company business of import and export. earlier i had exhibited in numerous exhibitions but this time around we were just supposed to attend and my designation is a sales and marketing manager and was accompanying my director
 

fkl

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hmm perhaps the VO didn't think just attending was important enough to approve. Speculation at this point is all i can do and No i haven't heard of this from any one lately as a cause of refusal
 

jay_007

Full Member
Jun 17, 2014
31
2
fkl said:
hmm perhaps the VO didn't think just attending was important enough to approve. Speculation at this point is all i can do and No i haven't heard of this from any one lately as a cause of refusal
thanks for your help
 

ragluf

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jay_007 said:
PUrpose of visit : There were two invitations from organisers for attending exhibition in toronto and my present and past job has been holding exhibitions inorder to promote our company business of import and export. earlier i had exhibited in numerous exhibitions but this time around we were just supposed to attend and my designation is a sales and marketing manager and was accompanying my director
@jay_007 - IMHO - if you want to apply next time try asking for letters from the organizers addressed to the VO stating the need for you and your director to be issued visas in to attend the exhibition in TO and to meet and conduct business talks/consultations etc. and have them describe the importance and (to some extent) potential worth/upside of these meetings. This sort of becomes a "letter of introduction" to the VO and lends credence and support, aside from the invitations, to the intent and importance of the business visit. Indirectly - the organizers are seen as "vouching" for both of you. You can put so much supporting documents to show your purpose in visiting and personal details like travels, etc. showing you are generally suitable to be admitted into the country - but supporting letters (aside from invitations which are common and can be solicited) from other interested parties/partners with a stake in the business potential will strengthen the legitimacy of the visit and hence, strengthen the application.

../hth
 

Tanikaze

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Jun 10, 2014
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WoW, It sure is nice to see my thread hijacked without any attempts at helping me.

SenoritaBella said:
1. Is your friend just a friend, or more than a friend? ;) Visa officers have a way to 'smell' these things from a distance.
2. What kind of proof of employment did your host(friend) provide? They usually prefer hard proof like tax documents of the most recent year e.g. T4 slips, notice of assessment, letter from employer confirming employment, etc. The longer you have worked in one place, the better because it shows stability.
3. Did you provide your transcripts of the most current academic year? Receipt of paid tuition for that academic year?
4. Did you include proof of relationship? If you are friends, may be a few emails from the start of your friendship, some over time and some as you planned to visit or even include some photos of both of you?
1. Does that even matter?

2. He submitted along with the letter from his employer a notice of assessment from the canadian revenue agency (keep in mind, the reason for rejection was because of my personal funds, not his. They didn't even bother to CALL him and cross-check any information, or me, for that matter, I wasn't even called for an interview. They just seemingly tossed my application into a pile.)

3. Yes, I did. I provided a signed letter with my academic results for this year + a waiver that shows I'm currently enrolled up until the year 2016 with paid tuition.

4. Yes, we did.
 

scylla

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Tanikaze said:
1. Does that even matter?
Yes - it can matter. If CIC suspects the relationship is more than a friendship, they are more likely to refuse your visa since they may believe you are not just coming to Canada for a visit - but have plans to get married / live with this individual in Canada.

In my opinion it is a bit strange for a friend to pay for your plane ticket. If this was mentioned somewhere in your original application, this could have contributed to the refusal since if someone is paying for your plane ticket - it would seem likely this person is more than just a friend (at least that's what I would think).
 

SenoritaBella

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AOR Received.
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File Transfer...
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Med's Request
02-11-2015
Med's Done....
18-09-2013
Passport Req..
02-11-2015
VISA ISSUED...
hopefully soon
LANDED..........
hopefully soon
Yup, it can. I don't know anyone who pays for plane tickets for a mere friend. :D

Tanikaze said:
1. Does that even matter?
 

jay_007

Full Member
Jun 17, 2014
31
2
ragluf said:
@ jay_007 - IMHO - if you want to apply next time try asking for letters from the organizers addressed to the VO stating the need for you and your director to be issued visas in to attend the exhibition in TO and to meet and conduct business talks/consultations etc. and have them describe the importance and (to some extent) potential worth/upside of these meetings. This sort of becomes a "letter of introduction" to the VO and lends credence and support, aside from the invitations, to the intent and importance of the business visit. Indirectly - the organizers are seen as "vouching" for both of you. You can put so much supporting documents to show your purpose in visiting and personal details like travels, etc. showing you are generally suitable to be admitted into the country - but supporting letters (aside from invitations which are common and can be solicited) from other interested parties/partners with a stake in the business potential will strengthen the legitimacy of the visit and hence, strengthen the application.

../hth
Thanks for ur reply will keep that in mind
one question though could u shed some light on the REFUSAL REASON WHAT IT MEANS
" No legitimate purpose of business travel " though i had previously EXHIBITED in exhibition around the world ( UK, FRANCE< GERMANY USA & CANADA TOO ) . or did i they refuse because my designation was SALES & MARKETING MANAGER. please shed some light .. appreciate