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TRV Refused 3 times for the same reason!

desperate08

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Mar 5, 2012
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Hello everyone,

I applied for TRV 3 times already, yet I always get the same reason in the refusal which states " You do not satisfy me that you would leave canada at the end of your authorized stay" despite the fact that I had already submitted enough amount of financial documents, a travel history and properties. I am in a common law partner that I even sent a document designating me a beneficiary of my common law-partner's pension. Me and my partner would like to visit his parents and siblings in canada from here in the philippines. I would like to know on which area I still need to strenghten up! I am desperate already.

Thanks and God Bless!
 

scylla

VIP Member
Jun 8, 2010
95,841
22,109
Toronto
Category........
Visa Office......
Buffalo
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
28-05-2010
AOR Received.
19-08-2010
File Transfer...
28-06-2010
Passport Req..
01-10-2010
VISA ISSUED...
05-10-2010
LANDED..........
05-10-2010
Is your partner Canadian?
 

shaznaz75

Hero Member
Feb 25, 2012
227
2
Canada
Category........
Visa Office......
Canada
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
24-11-2015
Doc's Request.
24-11-2015
Nomination.....
NA
AOR Received.
19-05-2016
Med's Done....
20-11-2015
Interview........
10-02-2017
Passport Req..
10-02-2017
LANDED..........
10-02-2017
Thats sad desperate you need to get married to a canadian :p

But on a serious note- you need to get a very detailed employment/business letter which highlights the fact that you are an important employee to the company/business and that youre being granted 2 weeks of holidays to visit Canada and after your trip you will return back to your home country.

Write a letter yourself as well explaining your position - why you want to visit canada- the letter should also contain as much information as you possibly can- about which places you will visit in canada who you will meet in canada and why will you return back to your home country give them good solid reason. Family ties, job, property etc...

Hope this helps..cheers
 

mmadsen55

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Jul 11, 2011
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It might be guilt by association...If you look at this from the Canadian immigration standpoint, your common law partner has parents and siblings in living in Canada (assume living legally?). To them, that is strong ties to Canada...so they would be concerned that you, being in a common law relationship with a person with strong ties to Canada, would also have strong ties to Canada and be a high risk category for not returning once your allowed visit time is done.

The only other thing to consider is all the people you listed on the applications, do any of them have a history of immigration problems/overstays in Canada or anywhere in the world?
 

desperate08

Newbie
Mar 5, 2012
6
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Hi everyone,

scylla-- yes my common law-partner is canadian as is already living here in the philippines since last August 2011 but prior to that He has been coming back and forth here for numerous times already.


mmadsen55-- My common law-partner's parents are canadian citizen and are living in canada. And none of the people listed in my application has an overstay case in any other countries as well too. Thanks for your input!

Thank you shaznaz75 for your comments as well.
 

job_seeker

VIP Member
Jul 27, 2009
4,539
83
Why not do a spousal sponsorship? Your partner being Canadian can apply for the PR sponsorship app for you even when he is outside Canada.

desperate08 said:
Hi everyone,

scylla-- yes my common law-partner is canadian as is already living here in the philippines since last August 2011 but prior to that He has been coming back and forth here for numerous times already.


mmadsen55-- My common law-partner's parents are canadian citizen and are living in canada. And none of the people listed in my application has an overstay case in any other countries as well too. Thanks for your input!

Thank you shaznaz75 for your comments as well.
 

desperate08

Newbie
Mar 5, 2012
6
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job_seeker said:
Why not do a spousal sponsorship? Your partner being Canadian can apply for the PR sponsorship app for you even when he is outside Canada.
We are only planning to go to canada for tourism and visiting his parents and siblings for 3 weeks as we are permanently living here in the philippines.
 

job_seeker

VIP Member
Jul 27, 2009
4,539
83
It's just so difficult getting a visa from the Philippines especially if you do not have a good job with a reputable company. Your partner's family and your partner are more a "tie" than his living there. If you have a good job in the Philippines such that you would not be tempted to stay in Canada, then you might have a chance. But if your circumstances had not changed since you last sent an application then chances are you would be getting the same response if you applied again.

desperate08 said:
We are only planning to go to canada for tourism and visiting his parents and siblings for 3 weeks as we are permanently living here in the philippines.
 

desperate08

Newbie
Mar 5, 2012
6
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job_seeker said:
It's just so difficult getting a visa from the Philippines especially if you do not have a good job with a reputable company. Your partner's family and your partner are more a "tie" than his living there. If you have a good job in the Philippines such that you would not be tempted to stay in Canada, then you might have a chance. But if your circumstances had not changed since you last sent an application then chances are you would be getting the same response if you applied again.
This sounds sad job_seeker....but, even if my partner and I will write a detailed letter to them explaining that we do have properties here in the philippines?
 

job_seeker

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Jul 27, 2009
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The onus is on you to provide your "ties" to the Philippines. Properties, finances - these can be liquidated at will. Have a business that is thriving and earning (for this the business has to be afloat for more than a year to show revenues). Or find a job with a company and establish yourself with them (an even more difficult task I assume considering the employment climate in the Philippines). A stable job, a family, properties, business these are some of the "ties" you can show to prove you'll go back to the Philippines.

Why not have him do a CLP spousal sponsorship? You don't have to reside in Canada, but at least it will give you and you partner freedom to go visit 6 months in Canada during spring and summer and then 6 months in the Philippines during autumn and winter. At least you can keep your PR (should you want to do it this way), by maintaining at least 730 days per 5 year period.

desperate08 said:
This sounds sad job_seeker....but, even if my partner and I will write a detailed letter to them explaining that we do have properties here in the philippines?
 

desperate08

Newbie
Mar 5, 2012
6
0
job_seeker said:
The onus is on you to provide your "ties" to the Philippines. Properties, finances - these can be liquidated at will. Have a business that is thriving and earning (for this the business has to be afloat for more than a year to show revenues). Or find a job with a company and establish yourself with them (an even more difficult task I assume considering the employment climate in the Philippines). A stable job, a family, properties, business these are some of the "ties" you can show to prove you'll go back to the Philippines.

Why not have him do a CLP spousal sponsorship? You don't have to reside in Canada, but at least it will give you and you partner freedom to go visit 6 months in Canada during spring and summer and then 6 months in the Philippines during autumn and winter. At least you can keep your PR (should you want to do it this way), by maintaining at least 730 days per 5 year period.
Thanks for your input job_seeker. well, just a brief background, we fall under the same sex partnership which I believed is accepted in canadian law. But since we cant marry here in the philippines so we are getting the common law partnership.Do you know how this works? Your info greatly helps a lot. Thanks!
 

job_seeker

VIP Member
Jul 27, 2009
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If you have lived together for at least one year then your partner can sponsor you under common law.

Common-law partner

You are a common-law partner—either of the opposite sex or same sex—if:

you have been living together in a conjugal relationship for at least one year in a continuous 12-month period that was not interrupted. (You are allowed short absences for business travel or family reasons, however.)
You will need proof that you and your common-law partner have combined your affairs and set up a household together. This can be in the form of:

joint bank accounts or credit cards
joint ownership of a home
joint residential leases
joint rental receipts
joint utilities (electricity, gas, telephone)
joint management of household expenses
proof of joint purchases, especially for household items or
mail addressed to either person or both people at the same address.


http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/immigrate/sponsor/spouse-apply-who.asp


desperate08 said:
Thanks for your input job_seeker. well, just a brief background, we fall under the same sex partnership which I believed is accepted in canadian law. But since we cant marry here in the philippines so we are getting the common law partnership.Do you know how this works? Your info greatly helps a lot. Thanks!