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TRV Refusal for Parents

hjstannum

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Mar 9, 2017
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Hello Seniors and all members! Thanks to all the great work that you are doing on this forum. It really helped in me guiding my parents to do an online application for TRV from Pakistan.

However that being said, it got rejected with the email coming in today. I want to give it another shot at applying but would like some guidance on where they went wrong with their first attempt, so to be able to avoid that mistake this time.

The reasons ticked on the refusal letter were as follows:

- Travel history
- Not sure whether applicant is a bona fide tourist and will leave the country at the end of their visa

To give you some background, I am a PR holder in Canada while my parents and my grandmother had applied as a family from Pakistan. I have a younger sister too but she is married and lives with her in-laws so in my household it just my parents and my maternal grandmother. As mentioned earlier all three had applied under the main application. They wanted to visit for a little over a month in the summer, precisely 31 days.

The documents alongwith all the different forms that they attached with their application were as follows:

- Cover letter explaining why they want to visit

- Proof of finances consisting of 4 months salary slips for my father and mother, tax returns for last year for my father, 4 months bank statements for each of my parents (father's account holds 45K CAD, mother's holds 18K CAD), ownership documents of residence and a vehicle under my father's name. Letters from my parents' employers stating the dates which they want to travel for, their relationships with the employers (18 years and 20 years with them respectively) and their positions.

- Invitation letter from me, notarized from a notary public here in Toronto, along with my job letter and bank statement holding 24K CAD.

- Purpose of travel included flight itinerary, tentative plans for their stay along with costs (mostly focused around the weekends and not day-to-day admittedly), hotel booking for a weekend to be spent in Niagara and a car rental booking for the same weekend

- Birth certificates belong to me and my father proving my relation to my parents and my dads relation to my grandmother

- Marriage certificate of parents

- Travel history for the last ten years for all three during which my dad has been to Europe, Middle East and Far East Asia, mother has been to Middle East and Far East Asia and my grandmother has been to the Middle East).

- Passports with stamps of all visas and entry/exit markers on pages for all three, used in the last 10 years. Plus US B2 visas for my parents issues in March 2016, which they have not utilized at the moment.

I am just wondering how to go about doing it differently this time? My grandmother can perhaps opt out of the trip this time around but I definitely want my parents to come see me, as this would be the first time they visit me since I moved to Canada in 2015.

I welcome any suggestions and comments. Looking forward to your guidance.
 

Nousherwan

Star Member
May 15, 2015
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hjstannum said:
Hello Seniors and all members! Thanks to all the great work that you are doing on this forum. It really helped in me guiding my parents to do an online application for TRV from Pakistan.

However that being said, it got rejected with the email coming in today. I want to give it another shot at applying but would like some guidance on where they went wrong with their first attempt, so to be able to avoid that mistake this time.

The reasons ticked on the refusal letter were as follows


- Travel history
- Not sure whether applicant is a bona fide tourist and will leave the country at the end of their visa

To give you some background, I am a PR holder in Canada while my parents and my grandmother had applied as a family from Pakistan. I have a younger sister too but she is married and lives with her in-laws so in my household it just my parents and my maternal grandmother. As mentioned earlier all three had applied under the main application. They wanted to visit for a little over a month in the summer, precisely 31 days.

The documents alongwith all the different forms that they attached with their application were as follows:

- Cover letter explaining why they want to visit

- Proof of finances consisting of 4 months salary slips for my father and mother, tax returns for last year for my father, 4 months bank statements for each of my parents (father's account holds 45K CAD, mother's holds 18K CAD), ownership documents of residence and a vehicle under my father's name. Letters from my parents' employers stating the dates which they want to travel for, their relationships with the employers (18 years and 20 years with them respectively) and their positions.

- Invitation letter from me, notarized from a notary public here in Toronto, along with my job letter and bank statement holding 24K CAD.

- Purpose of travel included flight itinerary, tentative plans for their stay along with costs (mostly focused around the weekends and not day-to-day admittedly), hotel booking for a weekend to be spent in Niagara and a car rental booking for the same weekend

- Birth certificates belong to me and my father proving my relation to my parents and my dads relation to my grandmother

- Marriage certificate of parents

- Travel history for the last ten years for all three during which my dad has been to Europe, Middle East and Far East Asia, mother has been to Middle East and Far East Asia and my grandmother has been to the Middle East).

- Passports with stamps of all visas and entry/exit markers on pages for all three, used in the last 10 years. Plus US B2 visas for my parents issues in March 2016, which they have not utilized at the moment.

I am just wondering how to go about doing it differently this time? My grandmother can perhaps opt out of the trip this time around but I definitely want my parents to come see me, as this would be the first time they visit me since I moved to Canada in 2015.

I welcome any suggestions and comments. Looking forward to your guidance.
Sorry to know that
when did you apply ?
 

Bryanna

VIP Member
Sep 8, 2014
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Hi,

Your parents have good chances of TRV approvals if you present their documentation properly from a TRV perspective.


I suggest:
1. Do not apply for your grandmother at this point. She can be the family tie to return to.

You may want to include any evidence of maybe medical check-ups/minor surgery for your grandmother (hopefully not though), if it is the case. Do be careful that this medical reason should not so critical as to affect your grandmom's TRV chances later.

Your sister is not a family tie (from a visa perspective) as she is married.


2. Do get a property valuation done and back it up with evidence of current market rates. Include any property tax receipts, utility bills for the same address, etc. If there's no mortgage then highlight this fact (it indicates a good financial situation).


3. Visa officers most probably do not go through passports to figure out visits to other countries. You can prepare a Travel History explanation for each applicant. In a tabular format (chronological): List the visa details + entry/exit dates + purpose of visit (for each visit). Also, scan the US visa and include it in this explanation.


4. Keep their visit to 2-3 weeks. Schedule their visit around some national/local holidays in Pakistan.... and explain that they are able to visit for a few more days because of this.


5. Prepare a day-by-day itinerary with expense estimates. It is perfectly alright to go sightseeing only on the weekends. You can include a couple of events/activities on week days/evenings too + meet your friends/relatives on maybe week days/evenings.


6. You may want to purchase overseas travel medical insurance policies for the intended visit duration (refundable) although this is not mandatory.


7. Include a must-return-by-date reason with evidence. For example, specific work commitments for each of your parents, or a wedding in the extended family, etc


8. Are they likely to visit the US? If yes, then their travel plans should be Pakistan >> Canada >> US >> Pakistan. This would indicate they must leave Canada. You can include provisional hotel bookings etc for the US trip, invitation letters from US-based family/friends, etc.


9. Do include any other financial assets (bank term deposits, shares/mutual funds, etc), pension funds, etc


Cheers
 

riasat.abir

Hero Member
Aug 9, 2012
691
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Burnaby
Visa Office......
CPC-Ottawa
NOC Code......
2174
App. Filed.......
2015-12-17
AOR Received.
2016-02-22
Med's Done....
2016-03-09
Passport Req..
2016-08-17
VISA ISSUED...
2016-08-30
LANDED..........
2016-09-09
- Cover letter explaining why they want to visit

>> Your invitation letter is good enough, write a strong invitation letter why you want them here and you will take complete responsibility so that they depart before authorized stay expires. Show reason family visit not tourism.

- Proof of finances consisting of 4 months salary slips for my father and mother, tax returns for last year for my father, 4 months bank statements for each of my parents (father's account holds 45K CAD, mother's holds 18K CAD), ownership documents of residence and a vehicle under my father's name. Letters from my parents' employers stating the dates which they want to travel for, their relationships with the employers (18 years and 20 years with them respectively) and their positions.

>> Show 6 months of bank statements. Show property evaluation done by CA firm. If the documents are not english, have them translated.

- Invitation letter from me, notarized from a notary public here in Toronto, along with my job letter and bank statement holding 24K CAD.

>> Show your pay stubs with 6 months of bank statement of yours. Must show your PR card, and your birth certificate as proof of relationship.

- Purpose of travel included flight itinerary, tentative plans for their stay along with costs (mostly focused around the weekends and not day-to-day admittedly), hotel booking for a weekend to be spent in Niagara and a car rental booking for the same weekend

>> Add another additional trip. Show bookings.

- Marriage certificate of parents

- Travel history for the last ten years for all three during which my dad has been to Europe, Middle East and Far East Asia, mother has been to Middle East and Far East Asia and my grandmother has been to the Middle East).
- Passports with stamps of all visas and entry/exit markers on pages for all three, used in the last 10 years. Plus US B2 visas for my parents issues in March 2016, which they have not utilized at the moment.

>> Submit photocopies of old passport as well to support the travel history. Write the travel history in a tabular format as well.
 

hjstannum

Star Member
Mar 9, 2017
57
38
riasat.abir said:
- Cover letter explaining why they want to visit

>> Your invitation letter is good enough, write a strong invitation letter why you want them here and you will take complete responsibility so that they depart before authorized stay expires. Show reason family visit not tourism.

- Proof of finances consisting of 4 months salary slips for my father and mother, tax returns for last year for my father, 4 months bank statements for each of my parents (father's account holds 45K CAD, mother's holds 18K CAD), ownership documents of residence and a vehicle under my father's name. Letters from my parents' employers stating the dates which they want to travel for, their relationships with the employers (18 years and 20 years with them respectively) and their positions.

>> Show 6 months of bank statements. Show property evaluation done by CA firm. If the documents are not english, have them translated.

- Invitation letter from me, notarized from a notary public here in Toronto, along with my job letter and bank statement holding 24K CAD.

>> Show your pay stubs with 6 months of bank statement of yours. Must show your PR card, and your birth certificate as proof of relationship.

- Purpose of travel included flight itinerary, tentative plans for their stay along with costs (mostly focused around the weekends and not day-to-day admittedly), hotel booking for a weekend to be spent in Niagara and a car rental booking for the same weekend

>> Add another additional trip. Show bookings.

- Marriage certificate of parents

- Travel history for the last ten years for all three during which my dad has been to Europe, Middle East and Far East Asia, mother has been to Middle East and Far East Asia and my grandmother has been to the Middle East).
- Passports with stamps of all visas and entry/exit markers on pages for all three, used in the last 10 years. Plus US B2 visas for my parents issues in March 2016, which they have not utilized at the moment.

>> Submit photocopies of old passport as well to support the travel history. Write the travel history in a tabular format as well.
Sorry for the late response, I was under the weather since last week. Toronto's weather has been horrible lately.

1 - Is there a good example of an invitation letter that you can show me which states the family visit as the reason?

2 - Will go ahead with 6 months bank statements this time. Not sure about the property evaluation by CA firm, but all documents are definitely in English.

3 - Will add pay stubs and bank statements for 6 months for self. Had added my PR card and birth certificate previously too

4 - Will try to cover the all days this time including adding another trip

5 - Had shared passports used previously as well as the tabular format travel history for each individual
 

hjstannum

Star Member
Mar 9, 2017
57
38
Bryanna said:
Hi,

Your parents have good chances of TRV approvals if you present their documentation properly from a TRV perspective.


I suggest:
1. Do not apply for your grandmother at this point. She can be the family tie to return to.

You may want to include any evidence of maybe medical check-ups/minor surgery for your grandmother (hopefully not though), if it is the case. Do be careful that this medical reason should not so critical as to affect your grandmom's TRV chances later.

Your sister is not a family tie (from a visa perspective) as she is married.


2. Do get a property valuation done and back it up with evidence of current market rates. Include any property tax receipts, utility bills for the same address, etc. If there's no mortgage then highlight this fact (it indicates a good financial situation).


3. Visa officers most probably do not go through passports to figure out visits to other countries. You can prepare a Travel History explanation for each applicant. In a tabular format (chronological): List the visa details + entry/exit dates + purpose of visit (for each visit). Also, scan the US visa and include it in this explanation.


4. Keep their visit to 2-3 weeks. Schedule their visit around some national/local holidays in Pakistan.... and explain that they are able to visit for a few more days because of this.


5. Prepare a day-by-day itinerary with expense estimates. It is perfectly alright to go sightseeing only on the weekends. You can include a couple of events/activities on week days/evenings too + meet your friends/relatives on maybe week days/evenings.


6. You may want to purchase overseas travel medical insurance policies for the intended visit duration (refundable) although this is not mandatory.


7. Include a must-return-by-date reason with evidence. For example, specific work commitments for each of your parents, or a wedding in the extended family, etc


8. Are they likely to visit the US? If yes, then their travel plans should be Pakistan >> Canada >> US >> Pakistan. This would indicate they must leave Canada. You can include provisional hotel bookings etc for the US trip, invitation letters from US-based family/friends, etc.


9. Do include any other financial assets (bank term deposits, shares/mutual funds, etc), pension funds, etc


Cheers
Again apologies for the late reply.

1 - Wont apply for my grandmother. Will have to see if I can get something in the form of a medical appointment coming up though

2 - Will add utility bills and add that there is no mortgage outstanding. Not sure if I can get the property evaluation done, can I use just about any real estate agent for that?

3 - I had done the travel history in the exact tabular form as you had stated along with adding the US Visas. This time will add the visas with the cover letter too.

4 - Will shorten the length to 2-3 weeks

5 - Will make a day to day itinerary this time.

6 - Is the medical insurance a game changer? Depending on your answer I will decide accordingly

7 - Will try to provide specific work projects coming up for both parents to give them a must return by reason

8 - They arent going to the US in sync with this trip atleast

9 - I had added all the info on their finances previously except assets which are really liquid and are held in such a state such as jewellery and cash

Any other thing I can do to make their application robust this time around?