Tons of questions!

[Demonardae]

Okay, this is the third thread I've made and even through searching through the forum for similar questions I haven't found my answers, or if I have I didn't realize it. So every question I have I will put it in here, hopefully someone can shed some light.

The situation: My fiance is from Ottawa, Ontario and I'm from Texas. We've been dating for about 2 1/2 years. We originally met over a MMORPG and the rest is history, so to speak. I've gone to canada four seperate times and I've got to spend time with him three of those times. I was denied once, on January 1st of this year. A month and a half later I went back. I was told I was allowed 14 days to see him although my intent was to stay for six months and begin the in-land process. Now I am back in Texas, and our plan is for him and two family members to go to Florida and meet them there. (He has an uncle in Florida we plan to stay with.) Then from there we will get a civil marriage and I will begin the out-land process then meet him in Ogdensburg, then travel across the border with him. Then I will wait there until I get my PR.

My first question; does anyone see any problem with that plan at all? I'm fairly certain that the plan is solid, but I would love it if someone who has been through this already could tell me if there is anything wrong with my plan.


My second question; as far as proof goes, I have absolutely no pictures of us together. He hates cameras, and at the time, I never thought I would need proof. I have to say, that it was stupid of me to assume that our love was proof enough. But on the other hand my stupidity led us to both get a several thousand dollar phone bill. (Before we met.) So in the proof department, would several months of phone bills, chat logs, letters from friends and family (both his and mine), and a few messages... would that be enough?

My third question; I was told that through the out-land process if I am refused I can repeal. Is that true? Also, why could I not repeal through the in-land process? (Just curious.)

And my final question; when it says all family members in Appendix C for the medical exam, does it mean immediate family?

Anyways, I think that's all the questions I have. Thanks for any and all help.

NOTE: I was reading the Fbi clearance thing and it asks if I was ever refused entry... I rescinded my request to enter canada, is that the same as being refused entry?

 

[BostonGirl]

Family referrs to your spouse and children. If I have read the apps correctly

 

[canadianwoman]

My first question; does anyone see any problem with that plan at all?

The plan sounds fine to me. You still may be denied entry, but even if denied entry you can submit your application, and outland applications from the USA usually don't take too long (though you can see from this forum that sometimes they do.)

My second question; as far as proof goes, I have absolutely no pictures of us together. He hates cameras, and at the time, I never thought I would need proof. I have to say, that it was stupid of me to assume that our love was proof enough. But on the other hand my stupidity led us to both get a several thousand dollar phone bill. (Before we met.) So in the proof department, would several months of phone bills, chat logs, letters from friends and family (both his and mine), and a few messages... would that be enough?

If you have no photos to date, that's the way it is. Without photos, you will have to increase the amount of other proof you send. Your other proof sounds good, though.
Include a note from him stating he hates to be photographed, so that's why you don't have many photos. The visa officer will still expect to see photos of the wedding, plus you can get some from now until the application.

My third question; I was told that through the out-land process if I am refused I can repeal. Is that true? Also, why could I not repeal through the in-land process? (Just curious.)

You can appeal a refusal of an outland application, but not a refusal of an inland application. Who knows why.

And my final question; when it says all family members in Appendix C for the medical exam, does it mean immediate family?

It just means the applicant (you) in your case. Your husband-to-be is already a Canadian, so it doesn't apply to him. Your children also have to have a medical, but I don't think you have any, right?

 

[Demonardae]

Lol, no kids at all. We want a house first. I was just worried because I told my dad he may have to get an exam and he flipped out. I qoute, "Why the f**k should I have to get an exam?! I have no intentions of ever going to canada." I tried to placate him saying that my fiance and I would be paying for it, but he wouldn't relax...

I'm going to reread the guide a few more times and see if anything becomes more clear.

 

[canadianwoman]

There is a place on the forms where you have to list your parents and siblings, but they don't have to submit medicals or photos.
On the form where they ask for medicals for family members, 'family members' just means your spouse/common-law/conjugal partner and your children. And if they are already Canadian, they don't need a medical either.

 

[sogwap]

Why were you denied entry on Jan 1st then several months later allowed only to stay for 14 days. That just does not compute. You are are US citizen right? You should be able to stay for six months, as long as you have someplace to stay, the means to take care of yourself financially, and show proof that you will leave at the end of six months.
You said you have been here three times. Did either of your first two visits consist of staying more than six months?

I'm wondering because I've been here almost a year, however I have returned to the States three times to keep my status legal.

I'm not an expert but once you are married and have applied for PR, most US/Canadian spouses are allowed access as long as they have not previously been denied for trying to break the rules.

Unfortunately love and marriage alone is more of a hindrance to stay in Canada. As often the CIC will assume that the intention of your visit is permanent without going through due process of immigration.

 

[Demonardae]

Why were you denied entry on Jan 1st then several months later allowed only to stay for 14 days. That just does not compute. You are are US citizen right? You should be able to stay for six months, as long as you have someplace to stay, the means to take care of yourself financially, and show proof that you will leave at the end of six months.
You said you have been here three times. Did either of your first two visits consist of staying more than six months?

Yes, but I was allowed. Then when I went back this year in Jan. I had nothing. No money, no return ticket (because I find it cheaper to to buy one way. My ticket there in jan. was only 150 dollars.), and they said that it had only been five months since my last visit and to stay there another six months made it look like I was trying to move there illegally.

A month and an half later I was allowed to stay for 14 days because the customs officer had saw that I had tried to meet the requirements of me and because it was Valentine's day so she took pity on me.

My question though is whether or not to rescind my request to visit is the same as being denied entry?