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Dear All,

We ( me and my wife and our two years daughter ) are applying for visitor visa planing to visit my supplier at Canada for two weeks. We have training course with them. As me and my wife has same business.
The only ties to our home country we would have is
1. our 4 years old daughter which we will let will not .
2. our business I am the CEO director of the company and my wife is working with me as assistan and office manager.

I have travel history traveled to some European countries and several times to USA.
My wife doesn't have travel history

If instead of bank statement we show the monthly tax we paid of one year + our brand registration docs ( registered at Brazil) + сustom papers + companies license which we have in two countries our offices.

Waiting for suggestions

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Sokiev said:
Dear All,

We ( me and my wife and our two years daughter ) are applying for visitor visa planing to visit my supplier at Canada for two weeks. We have training course with them. As me and my wife has same business.
The only ties to our home country we would have is
1. our 4 years old daughter which we will let will not .
2. our business I am the CEO director of the company and my wife is working with me as assistan and office manager.

I have travel history traveled to some European countries and several times to USA.
My wife doesn't have travel history

If instead of bank statement we show the monthly tax we paid of one year + our brand registration docs ( registered at Brazil) + сustom papers + companies license which we have in two countries our offices.

Will it be enough

Waiting for suggestions


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Sokiev

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Waiting for @Bryanna and all other members suggestions :( :(
 

Bryanna

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Hi,

You must include a business invitation letter which states the dates + purpose of your visit + business association with your supplier + why you must visit + if your company will pay for the accommodation/travel/living expenses + host company information (website, short description), etc.

You must explain why it is necessary for your wife to also receive training. Does her work experience/current responsibilities necessitate this training? If yes then include evidence of this.

You must include evidence of purchase contracts/orders given to your supplier.


I have travel history traveled to some European countries and several times to USA.
You can include a Travel History explanation for each country visited/visa details + entry/exit dates + purpose of each visit (chronologically).


If instead of bank statement we show the monthly tax we paid of one year
No, this will not prove your current financial situation. You must include the bank statements of your business and personal bank accounts. Also, explain any large deposits/transfers.


our brand registration docs ( registered at Brazil)
Yes, include these documents + other business registration documents in the countries where your business is.

Most importantly, you must include evidence that your business is actively trading. For example, business and personal tax returns + office rent agreement + warehouse agreement + purchase orders/contracts + contracts with your suppliers, etc

Also, include your property ownership documents/house rent agreement + 2-3 months' recent rent receipts.

Do include/scan your immigration and residence status in your country of residence + include evidence of your strong ties to both your home country and your country of residence.


IMO, you must apply only for yourself if you do not have any other strong ties. Your 4-year old daughter is certainly a reason to return to. Do you have any other dependent family in your country of residence (parents or siblings??).


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Dear Bryanna,

Good day, Thank you so much for your feedback and suggestions with open detail, which is very helpful .
No, this will not prove your current financial situation. You must include the bank statements of your business and personal bank accounts. Also, explain any large deposits/transfers.
Please let me know how much USD should be in my personal account for our maximum two weeks visit?
last year we have closed our company`s account and personal account at bank due to bankruptcy and crisis at country, so I have opened new account recently with new bank.

IMO, you must apply only for yourself if you do not have any other strong ties. Your 4-year old daughter is certainly a reason to return to. Do you have any other dependent family in your country of residence (parents or siblings??).
parents are living at my home country, but dependent.

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Bryanna

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Please let me know how much USD should be in my personal account for our maximum two weeks visit?
An unofficial guide is CAD 1000 per person per week of visit + airfare.

The best way to go about this is to prepare a detailed day-by-day itinerary with expense estimates, and prove that you can afford the visit. Do include hotel accommodation, meals, travel, etc when you work out the estimates.


last year we have closed our company`s account and personal account at bank due to bankruptcy and crisis at country, so I have opened new account recently with new bank.
You must submit 6 months of bank statements. Do explain any transfers between your company and personal bank accounts. Do not borrow from anyone for the visa application.


parents are living at my home country, but dependent.
You can include evidence that you support your parents. If this is financial support then do include evidence of bank transfers to their bank accounts, or if you pay for their rent/utility bills/medical expenses, etc.


I suggest you ensure that the documentation for your company is adequate + proves that your company is well established with solid financials. Do work on this before you apply for a business TRV
 

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Dear Bryanna, Once again thank you so much for the suggestion and feedback

You must submit 6 months of bank statements. Do explain any transfers between your company and personal bank accounts. Do not borrow from anyone for the visa application.
As you know that we have open new account with new bank , I could have statements of 2 months till applying for TRV, as required is 6 months, so can I explain in cover letter the reasons regarding the statements of two months, the reasons which i intend to put is ,Due to the past year 2016 crisis at country some banks announced bankruptcy so we have closed our accounts and in 2017 after getting the situation normal we re-open new account at new bank
The evidence of bankruptcy we can proof
You can include evidence that you support your parents. If this is financial support then do include evidence of bank transfers to their bank accounts, or if you pay for their rent/utility bills/medical expenses, etc.
What you think if I apply for only myself at moment I avoid to apply TRV for my wife so my wife and children which are dependent on me I can provide evidence easy.
I suggest you ensure that the documentation for your company is adequate + proves that your company is well established with solid financials. Do work on this before you apply for a business TRV
Will it be strong proof for showing our company is adequate and well established with solid financials,
if , our suppliers send us a letter with stamp, explain about our company and about about turn over with company per year.

Thanks in advance
 

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Hi Yuki here, I am a bit worried on my application, I have sent mine last Jan 21, 2017 here in Phils. I applied for a visitor visa so I could visit my husband and spend more time with him. Length of my stay is supposedly from Feb 23, 2017 to March 23, 2017. I am working here in the Philippines as a medical technologist and I have 2 jobs. I have no travel history and haven't included in my cover letter that my husband is trying to apply for a spousal sponsorship that is currently ongoing. I submitted:

Marriage Certificate
Photo requirement
A bank statement showing funds from the last six months ($3800 CAD) only.
Income Tax Returns (2014-16)
Employment letter from my main job stating they are giving me a month for holiday.
another employment letter from my secondary job stating that the COE will be used for travel purposes. (Both didn't state my annual or monthly income)
Payslips from both jobs
My existing car loan certificate
A letter stating why I want to visit canada (which is wanting to visit my husband but spend more time with him due to tight work schedules for both of us and that he could only visit me for two weeks however I could stay with him for a month since work allowed me to be on holidays for a month.)
Credit card statement
My husbands employment letter and his revenue for last year
An invitation letter coming from my husband stating our reasons why I wanna visit and that he would provide food and shelter for me.
a letter stating also that he is willing to provide my basic necessities.
Itinerary but my husband only stated where he would take me. I really don't have any reservations elsewhere other than for me to be staying at my husbands home.
My Professional License
My drivers license
Medical (Since I have already done my medical cause I was applying first for a spousal sponsorship)
and the forms I needed to fill up.

What bothers me is that I never had been to any other country. :( I have no travel proof and had been busy for the last 3 years working.
I also forgot to include in my letter that I have an existing sponsorship application and UCI. That I would have to come back to not jeopardize my existing application.
I also forgot to include my existing loan from the national housing authority here stating that I am currently paying for it.
I am so stressed out since I have been reading in forums a heap of rejected applications and feel that I should have done better.
and last 2 years ago I have been rejected to visit my aunts and uncles in Australia since I lack supporting documents. (that was a different story however, I was honest to tell them that I have been rejected a visitors visa in another country)
I really have no idea if I lacked evidence of ties for my application.
but i am still hoping for an approval. My husband and I got married last six months ago.. July 26, 2016 here in phils, and left on the 28th.
I really do wanna spend time with him. I miss him so much and it is just unbelievable that I am going through all this just for me to be with him. :(

Do you think I have provided enough?
 

Bryanna

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As you know that we have open new account with new bank , I could have statements of 2 months till applying for TRV, as required is 6 months,
Two months' bank statements is inadequate + not the requirement specified by CIC + would fail to convince the visa officer that your company is well-established.


The evidence of bankruptcy we can proof
That's good. For how long did you have active bank accounts before the banks declared bankruptcy? And were these bank accounts in the same country where you are presently residing?

Was the balance in the bank account(s) at the time of bankruptcy/the amount that you were actually given by the bank(s) good enough to prove a well-established business with strong financials?


if , our suppliers send us a letter with stamp, explain about our company and about about turn over with company per year.
While future sales growth/revenue predictions are fine, you must prove that your company can achieve these revenues + also prove the financials (or if you were employed/had another business) for at least one year preceding your application.


Please post the complete list of documents which you will submit
 

Sokiev

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Thanks Bryanna,

Please note the complete list of documents which I wanna submit is as follows:

1. Company license
2. Warehouse agreements + office 
( recipe of rent paid in advance till 31 December 2017)
3. House agreements + recipe of rent paid in advance till 31 December 2017
4. Tax returns 
( for two three years )
5. Exclusivity agreement with our suppliers ( three companies) + letter from them explaining about our company and ties with them and turn over of per year
6. invoices


7. Children's birth certificates 

8. Marriage certificate
9. Cars documents
 Which are on my name
10. Sell and buy contract with local companies / customers
11. Copies of all visas (explanation for each 
 country visited/visa details + entry/exit 
 dates + purpose of each visit 
 (chronologically)


12. Brand registration docs ( Which we have our own brand of coffe produced at Brazil registered with Brazil chambers of commerce)

13. Evidence of my employers (agreement with employers explain I hire them )
14. Hotel booking

15. Letter explaining about retail sale on due
16. Invitation letter (You must include an 
 invitation letter from your Canadian host. 
 This letter must state the dates and 
 purpose of your visit + business history + 
 why you must visit (why not someone 
 else) + accommodation/travel/living 
 expenses + host company information 
 (website, short description), etc.

18. letter to the Consular 
 (appeal/explanation of purpose of visit)

19. Personal bank statement which could show minimum of 7000$ (for two months Sad)
20. Copy of Residence status of in my country of residence
21. Work permit card

Till now I have prepared / plan to submit above docs

Thank you.
Best regards
 

Bryanna

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IMO, your application lacks evidence of strong financials + evidence that your business is actively trading.

You have warehouse and supplier agreements in place. That's good. However, without submitting business bank account statements, you'll find it hard to convince the visa officer that your business is a reason to return.

It's like this: If you are earning a good income + able to pay house rents/warehouse rents (in advance) through your business then you must be able to prove that the business has generated this income.

You must prove that you will NOT work illegally when you visit your supplier. And, submitting an overall good financial situation is one way to do this.


Some points that you would have to explain in your application (with evidence):
1. For how long did you have active bank accounts before the banks declared bankruptcy?

2. Were these bank accounts in the same country where you are presently residing?

3. Was the balance in the bank account(s) at the time of bankruptcy/the amount that you were actually given by the bank(s) good enough to prove a well-established business with strong financials?

4. Who will pay for your visit (airfare, hotel stay, all other expenses)? Your supplier or your company? If it is your company then again you must submit business bank statements with adequate funds to prove you can pay for this visit.

Normally, one does not pay for a business visit with personal finances.

5. You may also want to make a list of invoices + payments due (in a tabular format). Again, a business bank statement with active transactions will prove that your company is actively trading/is paying your suppliers

6. You may also want to include a brief explanation about your business model + a company profile.... for each of your businesses.

7. You must prepare a well-defined, day-by-day itinerary for your visit stating the training you will receive + do you have any other meetings/presentations scheduled? If yes, then do include correspondence.

8. You must also prepare an Assets-Liabilities statement if you have taken loans for working capital, or to purchase any equipment or vehicles, etc. Among other things, this would show that if you were approved for loan(s) then your business is credit worthy

9. Is this training only for you or also for other customers of your supplier?


Basically, the above points which I mentioned will help to show that your business is a strong tie to return because you want to visit for training
 

Sokiev

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Dear Baryanna ,

From your replies for all my post I have got ,I should have Bank Statement which is must.

For your information the schedule is changed with our supplier for meeting the new schedule is in beginning of April I have to meet them at their office at Toronto to sign the contract ,and this meeting will be for 3 hours. So I would be at Canada for only maximum 3 days. And the training would be at July 2017.
 

Sokiev

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Dear Baryanna/ All members,

Good day,

I am making list of travel history, regarding travel history I have few questions.

1.I have visited some schengen countries on one visa at single entry for example I entered to Germany (Frankfurt Germany entry stamp) and after few days fly to Italy and came back to Germany from Germany (exit stamp) to home country, How I can proof I have visited Italy also ? Or I have to write only Germany ?

2. I have traveled to UAE since 2006 once per year attending gulfood fair as exhibitor so should I also explain about UAE travels ( in some forums thread I have learned Asian or gulf countries are not counted as travel history )

3. I am residing in one of CIS country ( Tajikistan ) on business visa since 2006 ,So should I also scan and print all visas ( I am applying from country of residing )

Thanks inadvance.

Best regards