There are about 770,000 non-permanent residents in Canada. If you are abroad...

[ajanoni]

There are about 770,000 non-permanent residents in Canada. If you are abroad, forget the EE. Probably all of the NPR will have more chances than people out of Canada. They will be invited firstly.

http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2015/04/29/non-permanent-residents-canada-cibc-report_n_7173778.html

 

[mf4361]

Interesting read about the economic effect of NPR.

But I don't agree with NPR in Canada has more chance. Those who are already Canada under LMIA-exempt permit is put to the same priority level as people outside Canada. (apart from Canadian work, but that's a small factor compare to LMIA)

 

[JohnsonBthe1]

On what earth do you see the advantage one have if he/she is in Canada in the CRS? There are no extra points if you are currently in Canada or not. The whole point of EE is mixing all the applicants and rank them by score (which in my personal opinion, is unfair to the PGWP holders). For those who are already in Canada but doesn't have PNP or LMIA, there still have no comparison to those who are aboard and have those.

 

[mf4361]

The only advantage for applicants present in Canada is there are better chance an employer will file an LMIA for him/her, even that's still unlikely.

In the past, CIC recognize an advantage for people who worked in Canada to the Canadian society, thus the whole point of CEC program. This is not recognized in CRS points grid anymore.

 

[trini_ac]

There are 80 points specifically for working in Canada that fsw applicants cannot get. Plus 25 additional points for a combination of overseas work and canadian work. That means cec applicants do stand a much better chance of being picked when there is a none lmia/pnp draw. Plus most pnp slots go to people in canada. Fsw is really the ones left behind.

 

[dobes]

There are about 770,000 non-permanent residents in Canada. If you are abroad, forget the EE. Probably all of the NPR will have more chances than people out of Canada. They will be invited firstly.

http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2015/04/29/non-permanent-residents-canada-cibc-report_n_7173778.html

There's only been an analysis of the first draw, in which all applicants had LMIA, but in that draw 55% were outside Canada.

 

[JohnsonBthe1]

There are 80 points specifically for working in Canada that fsw applicants cannot get. Plus 25 additional points for a combination of overseas work and canadian work. That means cec applicants do stand a much better chance of being picked when there is a none lmia/pnp draw. Plus most pnp slots go to people in canada. Fsw is really the ones left behind.

In the CEC program before EE, as long as you graduate from Canadian post secondary school and work under NOC 0AB for a year, you are almost 100% in. Now, with the same experience, the max you can get is 444. The whole idea of putting people who's already in Canada and who never set foot on on the same table is stupid, given all the time, effort and commitment cec applicants puts into immigrating. Now we will compete with some "high demand" oversea applicants. So tell me more about who's being left behind

 

[ajanoni]

First of all, I think it is easier to arrange a LMIA working in Canada and it will give you 600 points.

Secondly , People who have canadian work experience has got more points in CRS, so it will keep the score above 450, probably until all these NPR people get a invitation.

Just imagine 10% of NPR people getting an LMIA this year (77,000).

For people abroad the only way is getting a PNP.

 

[JohnsonBthe1]

55% of first draw who had LMIA is from outside Canada

 

[ajanoni]

First of all, I think it is easier to arrange a LMIA working in Canada and it will give you 600 points.

Secondly , People who have canadian work experience has got more points in CRS, so it will keep the score above 450, probably until all these NPR people get a invitation.

Just imagine 10% of NPR people getting an LMIA this year (77,000).

For people abroad the only way is getting a PNP.

Furthermore, to be a Temporary Foreign Worker you must already have a LMIA. So these people just need to take the English test and they will be ready to apply and get a ITA.

 

[JohnsonBthe1]

Furthermore, to be a Temporary Foreign Worker you must already have a LMIA. So these people just need to take the English test and they will be ready to apply and get a ITA.

You are thinking in an really naive way. Most of the applicants in Canada doesn't have LMIA. Why? Because we don't used to need it to work here. Now CIC is asking everyone of us, who already working in a Canadian company, to go through a complicated process to get LMIA, so that we can keep working. This is bull crap.

 

[marcus66504]

There are 80 points specifically for working in Canada that fsw applicants cannot get. Plus 25 additional points for a combination of overseas work and canadian work. That means cec applicants do stand a much better chance of being picked when there is a none lmia/pnp draw. Plus most pnp slots go to people in canada. Fsw is really the ones left behind.

In order to get any points for any activity in Canada (work or otherwise), you must first have been in legal status when you gained the experience. I suspect a good chunk of the 770,000 population are actually without legal status, so they can forget about getting any CRS points at all.

People out of status are what the US calls "illegals", i.e. people who came as visitors, students, or under any other temporary status and then stayed beyond the authorized period of stay, in effect hiding underground. These individuals are in a worse position than those outside Canada: they are not eligible for PR in the first place, never mind get points for work experience gained while working illegally.

 

[ajanoni]

In order to get any points for any activity in Canada (work or otherwise), you must first have been in legal status when you gained the experience. I suspect a good chunk of the 770,000 population are actually without legal status, so they can forget about getting any CRS points at all.

People out of status are what the US calls "illegals", i.e. people who came as visitors, students, or under any other temporary status and then stayed beyond the authorized period of stay, in effect hiding underground. These individuals are in a worse position than those outside Canada: they are not eligible for PR in the first place, never mind get points for work experience gained while working illegally.

If we take in account that 10% of 770000 of NPN would worked legally and they will get a LMIA this year...