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Hello everyone This is the first time ever I post a topic here ... anyway , I’m 20 years old , and I am planning to immigrate to Canada after two years , and I'd like to ask you about how to get a work permit in Canada , and I mean more specifically , a way that makes me able to go there with sponsorship / internship ( or any other solution ) , I know that companies around the world required a very high skilled workers , experience , and a bunch of other requirements …
Sadly , I’m no match for these requirements , which is very disappointing for me , the worst thing is that I don’t have any rellies nor any friend there to help me . And The working holiday Visa is not working for me cause I am holding a Moroccan passport
I tried to be an international student, however , the fees are very expensive and I can’t afford it ( unless if you guys have any suggestion of cheap college or high school ) , Nevertheless , I have a little things to offer
-I could speak English fairly well ( even though it’s not my native language )
-I could speak French good enough too
-I have my baccalaureate certificate from morocco
-I have a Diploma called « specialist technician in enterprises gesture «

I already know My diploma and my baccalaureate are not recognized in Canada due to the fact that morocco has the worst education system . so it's useless , and therefore they are just piece of trash
I am ready to work in any kind of job that doesn’t require high degree or experience or any intense skills in Canada like ( waiter – dishwasher - laundry …etc ) . Unlike some people , I am not greedy about money , the minimum wage is enough for me …

My questions :

1/ what is the most easiest way to get a work permit in Canada according to my situation ?
2/ if it impossible to get a work permit or get sponsored , is the there any cheap high school or college for student abroad ?
3/ If I got a visitor visa then I look for a job until I got sponsored , could I change my visa status from visitor to worker ?

Please , I want an accurate and detailed information , I’m completely serious about it .

Thank you
 
There's no easy option. Immigrating won't be possible until you have at least one year of full time work experience - likely in a skilled occupation.

No - there are no cheap options for attending school in Canada as an international student. Just to be approved for the study permit, you need to show you have at least $25K in available funds to pay for your first year of education in Canada and your living expenses.

Obtaining a temporary work permit for Canada is typically very difficult. You first need to find an employer in Canada who is willing to give you a full time job and that employer then needs to obtain an approved LMIA - and as part of this process, prove no Canadian could be hired for the role. Because the LMIA process is long (often 4-6 months) and expensive - most employers aren't willing to go through it - especially for low skilled jobs. Without at least one year of paid work experience, I don't think that getting a job offer in Canada is going to be realistic (and it will still be difficult even with work experience).

You can certainly try applying for a visitor visa to Canada. Given your age and lack of ties to your home country - I would be expecting a refusal. If you are able to get a visitor visa, you can certainly look for work while you are in Canada. But once again, it's typically extremely difficult to find a job as a foreign worker.

Your best option is to focus on getting a few years of full time paid work experience in Morocco. Once you have this, there may be more options available to you.
 
scylla said:
There's no easy option. Immigrating won't be possible until you have at least one year of full time work experience - likely in a skilled occupation.

No - there are no cheap options for attending school in Canada as an international student. Just to be approved for the study permit, you need to show you have at least $25K in available funds to pay for your first year of education in Canada and your living expenses.

Obtaining a temporary work permit for Canada is typically very difficult. You first need to find an employer in Canada who is willing to give you a full time job and that employer then needs to obtain an approved LMIA - and as part of this process, prove no Canadian could be hired for the role. Because the LMIA process is long (often 4-6 months) and expensive - most employers aren't willing to go through it - especially for low skilled jobs. Without at least one year of paid work experience, I don't think that getting a job offer in Canada is going to be realistic (and it will still be difficult even with work experience).

You can certainly try applying for a visitor visa to Canada. Given your age and lack of ties to your home country - I would be expecting a refusal. If you are able to get a visitor visa, you can certainly look for work while you are in Canada. But once again, it's typically extremely difficult to find a job as a foreign worker.

Your best option is to focus on getting a few years of full time paid work experience in Morocco. Once you have this, there may be more options available to you.

Well , thank you so much for the reply . I appreciate it
So , first off , skilled occupation is not possible for me , there are many obstacles even though my diploma and baccalaureate is recognized in morocco , trust me , I am working in a low skilled job , cause I don’t want to waste my time sitting at home , I would rather to earn money to prepare myself to leave after two years

are you SERIOUS?? 25K ?? this is too much , I can’t afford that ! It’s too expensive!!! Even high schools require that exact proof of finance? , you should probably know that morocco don’t have a high paying jobs due to the LOW value of the currency for example
The better expectation for the salary for me in morocco is 3000 MAD / month
If you convert it , you’ll get around 375 CAD ( 1 CAD = 8 MAD and therefore 3000/8 = 375 CAD ) , which means , I need several years to get that 25k CAD

I understand you , And I can see how much difficult for employers to hire someone from oversea to do a low skilled job , I think I am equal to the average Canadian , I can speak the two national languages fairly well , not very impressive , and therefore , I can forget about being sponsored or internship , it’s unrealistic though

My questions
1/ Really ? how can you expect that they’ll refuse my visitor visa application ? is it because I am too young ? I thought that visitor visa is available for everyone!! I’ll turn 22 in that time , why they’ll refuse my visa application?
2/ I think that getting a visitor visa would be pretty easy , however , what sort of jobs that I can do , and how to get a job as a visitor ? ( I know it’s illegal though but I want more explanations and recommendations in that )
3/ let’s imagine that I resist to stay in morocco, and got a job + experience , you said that it’ll be more options , then what are those options ?, and even if I got some experience , you said that “, I don't think that getting a job offer in Canada is going to be realistic (and it will still be difficult even with work experience). “ does that mean that the situation is hopeless?
4/Finally, I’ve heard that work experience and education degrees are usually not recognized if I had them outside of Canada ( especially from a third world country like morocco ) is that true ? if so , what should I do ?
 
1) To be approved for a visitor visa to Canada, you must demonstrate that you have strong ties to your home country and have no plans on remaining in Canada long term. By the sounds of it, you don't have a full time job at this time and don't have too much money. I assume you also do not own property and haven't traveled extensively to other countries requiring visas (i.e. don't have much of a travel history). You are single which means you have no real family ties back home. In other words, you have few ties to your home country and fit the profile of someone who may be planning to use the visitor visa to try to stay in Canada long term (and this is in fact what you are trying to do). CIC will most likely figure this out and refuse you. But you can certainly try.
2) It is illegal for you to work in Canada as a visitor. In order to work in Canada, you need a work permit. To obtain a work permit, you must find an employer who is willing to give you a full time job and who can also obtain an approved LMIA. As explained to you earlier, the LMIA process is long process (often 4-6 months) and expensive for the employer. You should assume it will be very difficult to find an employer willing to go through this process. If you are able to find an employer, you should assume there will be a long period of time (I would plan on 6-8 months) where you cannot work in Canada and will have to survive without working. I would make sure you come to Canada with at least $10K.
3) All of Canada's economic immigration programs require that you have at least one year of paid and full time work experience before you can qualify to apply. Right now you don't meet this requirement - so you can't apply to immigrate. If you can get at least one year of work experience - then you may qualify to apply. Many of Canada's immigration programs are also points-based which means that more work experience gets you more points and a higher chance of immigrating. As an aside, based on the questions you've been asking - you need to spend a lot more time on the CIC web site reading through the details of Canada's immigration program. No one here is going to walk you through every single detail and explain everything to you - you need to do this research on your own if you are in fact serious about immigrating to Canada. If you don't want to do this research on your own, you will need to hire an immigration consultant or lawyer to assist you.
4) Read up on ECA requirements on the CIC web site. Again, you need to dedicate a lot more time to reading through the information there.
 
To answer your question about studying in Canada - yes, I'm serious. This is pretty much the minimum amount required - even for high school. To attend high school in Canada as a foreign student you need a study permit. For the study permit to be approved you need to show that you have a bank balance covering one year of tuition ($14K) plus an extra $10K for living expenses. I've been in Morocco and understand the wages paid there - this has no influence on the answer.

FYI - I don't think you have any chance of being approved for a study permit to come to Canada to attend high school given you already have a diploma. You would have to apply for a college course.
 
Try to study in Canada and find a job.
 
scylla said:
To answer your question about studying in Canada - yes, I'm serious. This is pretty much the minimum amount required - even for high school. To attend high school in Canada as a foreign student you need a study permit. For the study permit to be approved you need to show that you have a bank balance covering one year of tuition ($14K) plus an extra $10K for living expenses. I've been in Morocco and understand the wages paid there - this has no influence on the answer.

FYI - I don't think you have any chance of being approved for a study permit to come to Canada to attend high school given you already have a diploma. You would have to apply for a college course.


Yeah , you right about it , I have a very low ties to morocco , I do not own anything , and I am a single guy , furthermore , I’ve never travelled outside the Moroccan borders , if they knew that I’ll leave for good and stay in Canada they’ll refuse my application me for sure , that’s awful!!.

And like I told you that process of getting a work permit seems very difficult and costly for the employers , So I must have one year of experience + 10K to survive without working ( that would be IF ONLY I got my feets in the Canadian soil somehow )
It sounds like that there is no hope to gain that 25K to get that study permit ( and even if I got that money there is no guarantee that the college would accept me )
Here are my questions again :
1/ do you have any idea or any tips to convince the the general consultant to not refuse my VISA applications ( as a visitor of course ) you know that I have very low ties to morocco and not too much money , what I’m supposed to do to get approved ?
2/ It is thought that doing a paid job is illegal if I do it as a visitor , however , I read in the CIC website as you told you to do , and I’ve noticed that it is possible to change my conditions stay ( visitor visa ) , but I didn’t found the details , what are you those conditions ?, hopefully , something will allow me to work and stay far from caught up by the police ?
3/ if I got my visitor visa and arrived in Canada , is it possible to search for a low paying job secretly ? ( just to survive and pay the rent ...etc ) and then switch the visa from “ visitor “ to “ work “ ?
 
3 questions, "No" to all of them.

Follow Scylla's advise, it is the safest and most legal bet.
 
1) You need to spend time reading through the threads in the Visitors section of the forum. This subject has been discussed there extensively.
2) I've already explained this to you twice. To change your status from a visitor visa to a work permit you need a full time job offer from an employer and an approved LMIA.
3) If you are looking for advice on violating the terms of your visa to Canada and committing illegal/criminal acts while in Canada - then you're on the wrong forum. The short answer is that violating the terms of your visa and committing illegal/criminal acts while in Canada will make it harder (not easier) for you to achieve your objective of immigrating to Canada. It will most likely result in your removal from Canada, along with a ban. Once that happens, it will be extremely difficult to return and will cause complications for entry into other countries like the US, UK and Europe.
 
scylla said:
1) You need to spend time reading through the threads in the Visitors section of the forum. This subject has been discussed there extensively.
2) I've already explained this to you twice. To change your status from a visitor visa to a work permit you need a full time job offer from an employer and an approved LMIA.
3) If you are looking for advice on violating the terms of your visa to Canada and committing illegal/criminal acts while in Canada - then you're on the wrong forum. The short answer is that violating the terms of your visa and committing illegal/criminal acts while in Canada will make it harder (not easier) for you to achieve your objective of immigrating to Canada. It will most likely result in your removal from Canada, along with a ban. Once that happens, it will be extremely difficult to return and will cause complications for entry into other countries like the US, UK and Europe.

alright then , thank you so much for your help I really appreciate it , and sorry for bothering you

Peace ..