Temporary Resident Visa - please advice me

[liz9000]

Hello

I need advice from Senior Group members.

This will be indeed a personal favour and I will be really thankful.

- My daughter was born outside Canada.

- Her sponsorship was filed in October.

- We got eligibility for her sponsorship in November.

- The file was forwarded to CHC Islamabad and we are waiting for her file number.

- We applied for TRV in which was declined in January 2011.

- Can we submit application for TRP (temporary resident permit).

- We need to submit on basis of Humanitarian grounds.

- What is the probability of getting TRP.

Regards

 

[Baloo]

TRV grants permission to enter Canada temporarily, it is granted in advance.
It is normally used by any foreign national who is not from a "visa exempt" country.

TRP grants permission to enter Canada temporarily, it is granted in advance.
It is normally used by a foreign national who is inadmissible to Canada for some reason. Like a minor criminal issue.

As the TRV was declined, can I ask what was the reason?

As an example if it was lack of ties, it is doubtful you would get a TRP.
Also note if someone enters Canada on a TRP they cannot become a PR until the reason for the TRP is cleared.

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resources/manuals/op/op20-eng.pdf

 

[liz9000]

Thanks for info.

TRV was declined as they had concern that my daughter will not be leaving Canada once visa expires. Based on fact that parents and siblings are PR and CPC has issued eligibility for sponsorship, we never thought that TRV will be declined.

If you advice, I will not be processing TRP ; is there any way that processing time be minimized - even three year girl is all alone back home and parents and siblings are here in Canada?

I believe that we (Canadian Permanent residents) have right that our children should be living with us.

Kindly help me - I really need to work on a plan - as my daughter is suffering day by day.

Thanks

 

[Baloo]

I believe that we (Canadian Permanent residents) have right that our children should be living with us.

It may seem crazy but I doubt that, it may be what you all want, but until PR is granted it looks like no right exists.
We all have a process to follow to become a legal PR, we do not define the rules, Canada does.

A TRV is issued for a visit, clearly the officer did not believe that the person would leave at the end of the visit, so a refusal was issued.

Processing time takes as long as it takes, some applications are fast, some are slow. The only way to make it faster is to provide everything (and more) that is needed for immigration to make a positive decision.

Please do not just take my word on TRP, I am not a lawyer, what I and many others here offer are opinions (usually based on our experience).
Maybe you should contact the people who run this site for a legal opinion http://www.canadavisa.com/

 

[Jurjen]

You could try to pick up your daughter in Pakistan and report her at the border as refugee, if she really lives in a bad condition.

Just a thought...

 

[PMM]

Hi
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You could try to pick up your daughter in Pakistan and report her at the border as refugee, if she really lives in a bad condition.

Just a thought...
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And just how would the OP get the child on a plane without a visa?

 

[rjessome]

You could try to pick up your daughter in Pakistan and report her at the border as refugee, if she really lives in a bad condition.

Just a thought...

Ugh!

- Can we submit application for TRP (temporary resident permit).
- We need to submit on basis of Humanitarian grounds.
- What is the probability of getting TRP.

Request the TRP. Your child is inadmissible because they have no intention of leaving Canada so a TRP is appropriate. Yes, request Humanitarian and Compassionate considerations. Can't really comment on likelihood of success but it should be good if you have a well prepared application and thoroughly outline the H&C grounds to consider.

 

[Jurjen]

And just how would the OP get the child on a plane without a visa?

A visa is only for entering the country. By taking the plane, you're not through customs and immigration yet. I never tried to take a plane from Pakistan, but from my own experience I only needed a valid passport for flying. Once out of the airplane and in the line to enter the country, they were looking at visas. However, I'm from a visa exempt country, so I'm not the specialist. I not that in a lot of other countries, tourists need to buy a visa at the border (Turkey for example). That's why I don't think you need a visa to get on an airplane.

 

[HoneyBird]

I would think that they will send you back immediately AND the Airline will be charged for allowing you to board without a visa.

 

[Baloo]

In many European countries if you try to fly without a visa (and you are not visa exempt) you will be refused.

 

[rjessome]

A visa is only for entering the country. By taking the plane, you're not through customs and immigration yet. I never tried to take a plane from Pakistan, but from my own experience I only needed a valid passport for flying. Once out of the airplane and in the line to enter the country, they were looking at visas. However, I'm from a visa exempt country, so I'm not the specialist. I not that in a lot of other countries, tourists need to buy a visa at the border (Turkey for example). That's why I don't think you need a visa to get on an airplane.

You can't buy a visa at the Canadian border. If you are not allowed to enter the destination country by having the proper documentation at the time of check-in, the airline will not allow you to board the flight because you will be refused entry to Canada and the airline will have to pay the return airfare. Every international airline company in the world has a list of documentation requirements for all destination countries they fly to at the check-in desk to ensure passengers have the appropriate requirements at that time because they don't want to foot the bill of the return flight. This can even effect transit countries where you may need to change planes. It can be quite complicated.

For example, someone from Morocco who has received a PR visa to Canada may be able to change planes ONCE in Europe without getting a Schengen visa, but relying on their Canadian PR visa to be eligible to TWOV (transit without visa). If they are changing planes in France, they may be allowed to enter France but might not be allowed to leave the secure area of the airport. It's at the discretion of the French immigration officer. And the amount of time for their stopover is limited as well. If that same person tried to take a flight that had two connections in Europe, for example, Paris and Amsterdam, they would HAVE to have a Schengen visa as well as their Canadian PR visa.

This stuff CAN be tricky and people should check out the visa requirements prior to booking and paying for flights. This website can be really useful explaining rules of entry for just about every country.

http://www.delta.com/planning_reservations/plan_flight/international_travel_information/visa_passport_information/index.jsp

 

[canadianwoman]

A visa is only for entering the country. By taking the plane, you're not through customs and immigration yet. I never tried to take a plane from Pakistan, but from my own experience I only needed a valid passport for flying. Once out of the airplane and in the line to enter the country, they were looking at visas. However, I'm from a visa exempt country, so I'm not the specialist. I not that in a lot of other countries, tourists need to buy a visa at the border (Turkey for example). That's why I don't think you need a visa to get on an airplane.

Ordinarily they will check your documentation at check-in to make sure you can get into the country you are flying to. Every time I've gone to Nigeria (3x), the clerk at the cheek-in in Saskatoon checked my passport to make sure I had a visa for Nigeria.