T4a to T4

[latemornin]

I was on this forum looking for information for a while and I noticed that T4a is considered as a self-employed and I found out that work experience under T4a would not be considered in CEC. (unless people like IT contractor or RA/TA, but I don't have any occupation related to these). I was in a employer-employee relationship and I was stressed out with this problem.
Fortunately, when I talked to my employer, he said he will pay for the penalty of changing the T4a to T4 if this allows for me to apply for CEC stream. I just want to know if there were any similar cases or any idea if this will be acceptable for CEC stream application.

Sharing any information would be much appreciated!

 

[Copingwithlife]

I was on this forum looking for information for a while and I noticed that T4a is considered as a self-employed and I found out that work experience under T4a would not be considered in CEC. (unless people like IT contractor or RA/TA, but I don't have any occupation related to these). I was in a employer-employee relationship and I was stressed out with this problem.
Fortunately, when I talked to my employer, he said he will pay for the penalty of changing the T4a to T4 if this allows for me to apply for CEC stream. I just want to know if there were any similar cases or any idea if this will be acceptable for CEC stream application.

Sharing any information would be much appreciated!

It’s not that simple .

He has to go back to your very FIRST pay cheque and deduct ALL deductions normally deducted . EI CPP, fed tax . And the corresponding matching employer deductions.
Basically do payroll for each period . Monthly , weekly, bi-Weekly . It’s just not redoing a T4A into a T4
As well this can raise suspicions that the employer is classifying people as self employed when they should be employees to avoid paying the proper deductions . Thus this can trigger a trust exam of the company
You’ll both owe money . You for your portion of CPP , EI , Fed-tax. Him for the employer deductions
He then had to submit these to the CRA when they should of been due . He will then be assessed penalties based upon how long they were late . If he doesn’t have a payroll account , he needs to register for this and advise the agent that he’ll be submitting non compliant payroll deductions . The payroll account will be forwarded to the appropriate tax centre for non compliance.
The T slip they’ll be changing . The T4A needs to be deleted with the reason . The T4 slip issued will be assessed a late filing penalty.
If this was longer than for just the 2021 tax year . They need to do this for EACH year separately for non compliance .
As well fill out the TD 1 , and possibly contact the province for workers comp deductions .

 

[latemornin]

It’s not that simple .

He has to go back to your very FIRST pay cheque and deduct ALL deductions normally deducted . EI CPP, fed tax . And the corresponding matching employer deductions.
Basically do payroll for each period . Monthly , weekly, bi-Weekly . It’s just not redoing a T4A into a T4
As well this can raise suspicions that the employer is classifying people as self employed when they should be employees to avoid paying the proper deductions . Thus this can trigger a trust exam of the company
You’ll both owe money . You for your portion of CPP , EI , Fed-tax. Him for the employer deductions
He then had to submit these to the CRA when they should of been due . He will then be assessed penalties based upon how long they were late . If he doesn’t have a payroll account , he needs to register for this and advise the agent that he’ll be submitting non compliant payroll deductions . The payroll account will be forwarded to the appropriate tax centre for non compliance.
The T slip they’ll be changing . The T4A needs to be deleted with the reason . The T4 slip issued will be assessed a late filing penalty.
If this was longer than for just the 2021 tax year . They need to do this for EACH year separately for non compliance .
As well fill out the TD 1 , and possibly contact the province for workers comp deductions .

Wow that is quite complicated and too much information to handle. Do you think it is best to consult with an immigration lawyer for this issue?
Also, what does it mean by "fill out the TD 1 , and possibly contact the province for workers comp deductions?" sorry I am not very good at these stuff

 

[Copingwithlife]

Wow that is quite complicated and too much information to handle. Do you think it is best to consult with an immigration lawyer for this issue?

No, I would not involve and spend money on a immigration lawyer . This is more of a payroll issue .
Just have the employer determine the payroll frequency.

The start date . And then there is a payroll calculator online with the CRA . It’ll deduct both deductions that were due. Then employer & employee, plus Federal deductions.

https://www.canada.ca/en/revenue-ag...ses/payroll-deductions-online-calculator.html

A TD1 is filled out by the employee and kept on file with the employer
One for the federal government and one for the province you live in .
Shows your name SIN etc and deductions off the pay

https://www.canada.ca/en/revenue-ag...orms-pay-received-on-january-1-later/td1.html

Workers compensation is handled by the provinces

https://www.canada.ca/en/employment-social-development/services/health-safety/compensation.html

Adding , it sounds like the employer already has a payroll account since they issued a T4A.
Reiterate that T4A NEEDS to be canceled. If it’s not cancelled, and a T4 is issued ,the T4A amount and the T4 amount will be added together as income, and you’ll be assessed on both amounts . Causing a amount due to be assessed, plus interest .