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Sista12

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After reading some worrying stories of study visa refusals I am compelled to write my concerns

Im a pakistani lawyer. I have an LLB from university of london external program. I have worked for 2 yrs as in house legal officer in banks and top audit firms. I have a private limited company, its a family business and I own shares and a designation in that co.

I'm applying to memorial university for MBA. I have 7.5 IELTS score and im about to appear in GMAT. I expext to get atleast a 600 hopefully.

Will CIC see two different degrees as an issue? I plan to return home and take over my family business completely while my father runs it till im gone.

Any suggestions? Shud i even apply for university in canada? I have read on this forum that mba without undergrad in business will get me rejected?????
 

AstronomyNut

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As far universities are concerned, for an MBA they need work experience.

Seeing this, I think a VO will understand. You just need to explain why you changed your field.
 

Sista12

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As far universities are concerned, for an MBA they need work experience.

Seeing this, I think a VO will understand. You just need to explain why you changed your field.
Hmmm. My sisters have done MBA as well. I needed to do LLB to gain some legal expertise as to run a business one also needs to be well versed with laws however to run my business I need an MBA. In my country even as a lawyer LLB plus with an MBA degree get promoted too well.


Are you saying 2 years job in business field or it can also be in legal? Im currently interested to apply in memorial university
 

AstronomyNut

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>>Are you saying 2 years job in business field or it can also be in legal? Im currently interested to apply in memorial university

You should ask the university. I'm in engineering and don't have a clue about business or law.

As far visa is concerned, you need to justify the change from Law to Business. it is a significant change of field. You should spin this into Law => Management of a Law Firm and justify why you need an MBA to do this.
 

Johnsnow 007

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After reading some worrying stories of study visa refusals I am compelled to write my concerns

Im a pakistani lawyer. I have an LLB from university of london external program. I have worked for 2 yrs as in house legal officer in banks and top audit firms. I have a private limited company, its a family business and I own shares and a designation in that co.

I'm applying to memorial university for MBA. I have 7.5 IELTS score and im about to appear in GMAT. I expext to get atleast a 600 hopefully.

Will CIC see two different degrees as an issue? I plan to return home and take over my family business completely while my father runs it till im gone.

Any suggestions? Shud i even apply for university in canada? I have read on this forum that mba without undergrad in business will get me rejected?????
It's advisable to do something similar to your law field, if you go for MBA, you wik get refused for a course mismatch or propose course of study

you can go for something that relates to "business law" its quite understandable. These VOs always takes a course based on logical progression very serious

Many people has been refused like this even with a good academic profile and SOP. Go for something related to law, when you get there, you can easily switch to your desire program

The VO wouldn't mind doing a program in law and coming back to handle your father's business which happens in many capitalist countries known to them and this an SOP can speak good but not doing something based on your previous studies and work experience totally discredit your application in the eyes of the VO which an SOP won't actually do a technicality
 

canuck78

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I don't really agree with the previous recommendations. MBA and Law degrees are actually offered as a single degree. Rarely taken one after the other if you already have a good job. Getting a UK law degree so you know the laws to run an Indian company doesn't make a ton of sense. Neither does leaving job as a lawyer in a large UK bank which I would imagine would be very lucrative to go to a relatively small and new MBA program in Newfoundland. Imagine this has more to do with Brexit. Also having a bachelors in business is almost a negative when pursuing an MBA. As previously mentioned job experience is important. I am sure you have a good chance at getting into the MBA program but not sure if your story is very believable. Doesn't necessarily mean you won't get admission but if you want to work in the banks in Canada or the US I would look at other MBA programs.
 

Sista12

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I don't really agree with the previous recommendations. MBA and Law degrees are actually offered as a single degree. Rarely taken one after the other if you already have a good job. Getting a UK law degree so you know the laws to run an Indian company doesn't make a ton of sense. Neither does leaving job as a lawyer in a large UK bank which I would imagine would be very lucrative to go to a relatively small and new MBA program in Newfoundland. Imagine this has more to do with Brexit. Also having a bachelors in business is almost a negative when pursuing an MBA. As previously mentioned job experience is important. I am sure you have a good chance at getting into the MBA program but not sure if your story is very believable. Doesn't necessarily mean you won't get admission but if you want to work in the banks in Canada or the US I would look at other MBA programs.


Ummm for starters, most students with O/A level back ground do 3 year LLB from university of london while sitting in pakistan its an external program as oppossed to a 5 year pakistani LLB that takes ages and does not provide a lawyer with solid understanding and drafting skills. Most laws in pakistan are like the english law as we were once a colony.

LLB and MBA are probably given as one degree in canada but not in pakistan.
Usually people do it one after the otger.

I dont work in a UK bank, i work in a pakistani small scale bank which doesnt pay too well so running my own business definitely means more money which I cant even imagine to earn while I work here as a lawyer in pakistan.

Most companies also hire LLB MBA in their corporate legal departments hence more promotions.

I choose newfound land as its a budget friendly university and in pakistan any foreign degree holds more value than any local university

I just want to know if VO will not find these 2 degrees entirely seperate from one another
 

canuck78

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Ummm for starters, most students with O/A level back ground do 3 year LLB from university of london while sitting in pakistan its an external program as oppossed to a 5 year pakistani LLB that takes ages and does not provide a lawyer with solid understanding and drafting skills. Most laws in pakistan are like the english law as we were once a colony.

LLB and MBA are probably given as one degree in canada but not in pakistan.
Usually people do it one after the otger.

I dont work in a UK bank, i work in a pakistani small scale bank which doesnt pay too well so running my own business definitely means more money which I cant even imagine to earn while I work here as a lawyer in pakistan.

Most companies also hire LLB MBA in their corporate legal departments hence more promotions.

I choose newfound land as its a budget friendly university and in pakistan any foreign degree holds more value than any local university

I just want to know if VO will not find these 2 degrees entirely seperate from one another
Sorry though you were working in a bank in the UK. If you only have a 3 year degree that may be an issue versus a 4 year degree. It is uncommon for a lawyer to pursue an MBA but not unheard of.
 

Sista12

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Sorry though you were working in a bank in the UK. If you only have a 3 year degree that may be an issue versus a 4 year degree. It is uncommon for a lawyer to pursue an MBA but not unheard of.

Really? My 3 year llb will be a problem. How so?
 

canuck78

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If you did it after your A levels which I think you indicated. Canadian MBA programs usually require a 4 year degree prerequisite minimum.
 

Sista12

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Really
If you did it after your A levels which I think you indicated. Canadian MBA programs usually require a 4 year degree prerequisite minimum.
Really cz the university has stated out if one has 3 year bachelors their credentials will be assessed per academic achievements etc
 

AstronomyNut

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Really

Really cz the university has stated out if one has 3 year bachelors their credentials will be assessed per academic achievements etc
You need to confirm this with your university’s international equalvilency page for the UK. All universities I’ve seen ask for a 2:1 or 2:2 three year degree from the UK.

UK degrees are recognised so I don’t think you’ll have any issue here, as long as your marks are good. What I don’t know is whether llb and your work experience will be considered. I have no idea about your field.

If above is not a problem, your main issue is going to be justifying a change in career to the VO.
 

Sista12

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You need to confirm this with your university’s international equalvilency page for the UK. All universities I’ve seen ask for a 2:1 or 2:2 three year degree from the UK.

UK degrees are recognised so I don’t think you’ll have any issue here, as long as your marks are good. What I don’t know is whether llb and your work experience will be considered. I have no idea about your field.

If above is not a problem, your main issue is going to be justifying a change in career to the VO.
I have 2:2 from university of london. I will try to get IELTS 8 band and above 600 gmat altho requirement for memorial is only 550. I hope this shud boost my chances


As far as my work experience is concerned MBA is a general degree and the mba program in memorial to say the least has students from engineering, LLB, b.com, arts and science. Im sure not even one of them has a business related experience.


As far as VO is concerned, when canada offerels degrees in huge institutions in law/mba combined than why should he have a problem if I choose MBA after it.

I have not seen any other program linked with MBA in canada other than law