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rahman2

Star Member
Feb 15, 2015
152
13
Category........
Visa Office......
Sydney
NOC Code......
2171
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
21-10-2016
Nomination.....
06-09-2016
AOR Received.
10-01-2017
Hi everyone,
We got married on december 2015. I just graduated and got a job(1 year contract) which i started on may 1st. I am applying for her TRV.
We have invested around CAD $16,500 in a restaurant business who is our family friend. We do not have strong agreement about profit sharing as we are too close friend. We just invested this money and in a affidavit he said we will get 20% profit annually. We are not his business partner nor we take care of this business. End of the year we will just get profit/share the loss.

1. What is the best way to show this to visa officer. Do i need to show source of this investment.
(I am planning to show a affidavit letter from him where he will mention we have invested this amount in his business. Is that good idea?)

2. Is it a good idea to do medial in advance( we need bio-metric )

3. Do i need to show lease agreement?
(Now i am sharing apartments with my friends. I am planning to lease apartment when she got visa.)

4. Does she need to book a air ticket in advance?

5. Is it necessary to show travel medical insurance?

6. She is showing property evaluation/CA evaluation of her father. Is it necessary to take any kind of letter from her father. (please note that i am her sponsor and i am showing all the liquid money or bank documents.)

7.. Is there any suggestion how we can strong our application?
(as i can see most of the TRV application are getting rejections)

Thanks,
 

Bryanna

VIP Member
Sep 8, 2014
14,136
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Hi,

We have invested around CAD $16,500 in a restaurant business who is our family friend. We do not have strong agreement about profit sharing as we are too close friend. We just invested this money and in a affidavit he said we will get 20% profit annually. We are not his business partner nor we take care of this business.
My two cents:
Regardless of how dear the friendship may be, it's wise to keep business and friendship apart..... also, to have all monetary transactions well documented. Anyways. It's your personal choice.

1. Did you transfer this money through bank transfers? To the restaurant business bank account or to your friend's personal bank account?

2. Do you have a signed contract that you have loaned the money? If it is a capital investment, are you a shareholder in the business? Anything like a cash-out clause to pull out your money with interest?

3. How will the capital investment be returned to you? Or will only the profit/dividend be paid to you?


1. What is the best way to show this to visa officer. Do i need to show source of this investment.
(I am planning to show a affidavit letter from him where he will mention we have invested this amount in his business. Is that good idea?)
Affidavits do not help.


2. Is it a good idea to do medial in advance( we need bio-metric )
Medicals are generally not required for a TRV.... the visa office will let you know if medicals are required.


3. Do i need to show lease agreement?
(Now i am sharing apartments with my friends. I am planning to lease apartment when she got visa.)
Not necessary


4. Does she need to book a air ticket in advance?
Include provisional bookings and mention that flight tickets will be confirmed/booked when a TRV issued.


5. Is it necessary to show travel medical insurance?
Not compulsory, but it helps.


6. She is showing property evaluation/CA evaluation of her father. Is it necessary to take any kind of letter from her father. (please note that i am her sponsor and i am showing all the liquid money or bank documents.)
Unless she holds a Power of Attorney to manage her dad's property + she can prove she is actively managing the property on behalf of her dad.... her dad's property valuation/ownership documents should not be submitted for her TRV.


7.. Is there any suggestion how we can strong our application?
You have not shown any strong ties or strong reasons to prove your wife will return to her home country.... employment, college enrollment, family ties, financial situation, previous travel history, etc


Cheers
 

rahman2

Star Member
Feb 15, 2015
152
13
Category........
Visa Office......
Sydney
NOC Code......
2171
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
21-10-2016
Nomination.....
06-09-2016
AOR Received.
10-01-2017
Bryanna said:
Hi,
My two cents:
Regardless of how dear the friendship may be, it's wise to keep business and friendship apart..... also, to have all monetary transactions well documented. Anyways. It's your personal choice.

1. Did you transfer this money through bank transfers? To the restaurant business bank account or to your friend's personal bank account?

2. Do you have a signed contract that you have loaned the money? If it is a capital investment, are you a shareholder in the business? Anything like a cash-out clause to pull out your money with interest?

3. How will the capital investment be returned to you? Or will only the profit/dividend be paid to you?

Affidavits do not help.

Medicals are generally not required for a TRV.... the visa office will let you know if medicals are required.

Not necessary

Include provisional bookings and mention that flight tickets will be confirmed/booked when a TRV issued.

Not compulsory, but it helps.

Unless she holds a Power of Attorney to manage her dad's property + she can prove she is actively managing the property on behalf of her dad.... her dad's property valuation/ownership documents should not be submitted for her TRV.

You have not shown any strong ties or strong reasons to prove your wife will return to her home country.... employment, college enrollment, family ties, financial situation, previous travel history, etc


Cheers
Thank you for you kind reply.

1. She is showing property of her father to show country tie as she will inherit this property.
If her father provides a affidavit of property mentioning she will inherit this property. will this work?
2. She is doing masters in a university. She is getting summer vacation for 40 days. So she is planning to spend this time with me. She got letter from her registrar office and her thesis supervisor mentioning her summer vacation.
hope this proves strong country tie.
we went to nepal for our honeymoon. Other than that she does not have any travel history.
How i should explain this properly?

3. The problem is most of the money i have invested was in cash(some transferred from my bank account though) and did not invested at a time but to keep it simple i am planning to say i invested at a time.
We do have an agreement but it's too short. It does not explain how the profit will shared, how the business will run and other things.
It just said we(me and my wife) invested this amount and we will get 20% profit annually. We can withdraw money whenever we want.
He have deposited CAD $3500 to our joint account as we requested him.
We got Affidavit from him mentioning,
How much he deposited in our account and how much capital left.

Thanks
 

Bryanna

VIP Member
Sep 8, 2014
14,136
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1. She is showing property of her father to show country tie as she will inherit this property.
If her father provides a affidavit of property mentioning she will inherit this property. will this work
No, this will not work.

Unless she actually inherits her dad's property or it is legally gifted to her.... and must be legally transferred to her name, she cannot show her dad's property as her own.


2. She is doing masters in a university. She is getting summer vacation for 40 days. So she is planning to spend this time with me. She got letter from her registrar office and her thesis supervisor mentioning her summer vacation.
hope this proves strong country tie.
Yes, this is a good tie to show.

Do include copies of her university admission letter + letter stating she is a bona fide student and the Masters program is until XXXX year + tuition fee receipts for the next academic year + recent mark sheets + evidence of scheduled exams + any other similar proofs


we went to nepal for our honeymoon. Other than that she does not have any travel history.
How i should explain this properly?
I would not include Nepal as 'Travel History'.... no visas required/ Visa On Arrival depending on which country you are from.


3. The problem is most of the money i have invested was in cash(some transferred from my bank account though) and did not invested at a time but to keep it simple i am planning to say i invested at a time.
We do have an agreement but it's too short. It does not explain how the profit will shared, how the business will run and other things.
It just said we(me and my wife) invested this amount and we will get 20% profit annually. We can withdraw money whenever we want.
He have deposited CAD $3500 to our joint account as we requested him.
We got Affidavit from him mentioning,
How much he deposited in our account and how much capital left.
As your wife is not an active partner in the restaurant business, this will not count as a *tie*

It can best be called a silent investment.... as there are no partnership or shareholding documents. So the restaurant business will not help for the TRV application


Your wife must prove her strong ties: Financial investments/ any internship/ family ties especially if any immediate family member is dependent on her for their well-being, etc.

Other than this: Any strong reason to return to her home country by a specific date with evidence.... like a wedding in the immediate family, etc


For the invitation letter, do not write 'you miss your wife', 'you have not spent time together after your wedding', etc etc.

Also, keep her visit to 2-3 weeks + draw up a day-by-day itinerary of tourist places + spend time with you.... and she must prove she has the finances to pay for the airfare and the itinerary


Cheers
 

Bs65

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Mar 22, 2016
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I did not see a comment here but would think that stating have invested in a Canadian business could be interpreted that you or your wife are planning to stay in Canada and not return to home country at some future date. Just a thought as although investment quoted in CAD not sure if home country or Canada maybe I missed it.
 

rahman2

Star Member
Feb 15, 2015
152
13
Category........
Visa Office......
Sydney
NOC Code......
2171
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
21-10-2016
Nomination.....
06-09-2016
AOR Received.
10-01-2017
Bs65 said:
I did not see a comment here but would think that stating have invested in a Canadian business could be interpreted that you or your wife are planning to stay in Canada and not return to home country at some future date. Just a thought as although investment quoted in CAD not sure if home country or Canada maybe I missed it.
I have invested this money back home not in Canada.
If possible could you please add some suggestion/answer my question.

Thanks
 

rahman2

Star Member
Feb 15, 2015
152
13
Category........
Visa Office......
Sydney
NOC Code......
2171
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
21-10-2016
Nomination.....
06-09-2016
AOR Received.
10-01-2017
Thanks a lot @Bryanna.
Will try to follow your instruction.
Wish us luck :)

Regards,
 

rahman2

Star Member
Feb 15, 2015
152
13
Category........
Visa Office......
Sydney
NOC Code......
2171
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
21-10-2016
Nomination.....
06-09-2016
AOR Received.
10-01-2017
Just another question @Bryanna
As i said she is getting 40 days vacation but the problem is vacation starting soon.
From June 7 to July 17 and i am applying on may 31.
I am planning to say she will be in Canada for 20 days from June 25 to July 14.
Is there any possibility that VO will raise question about why she did not apply early?

Regards,
 

Bryanna

VIP Member
Sep 8, 2014
14,136
3,122
Is there any possibility that VO will raise question about why she did not apply early?
No. People make and change plans all the time.

Do check the processing time for your home country.... and prepare a typical tourist-type of itinerary/plans for dates which are well beyond the processing time.


IMO:
1. The only strong tie which your wife can prove is her Masters study program.... BTW when will she complete her Masters degree? You can stress on the fact that she will return as she will not jeopardize her Masters.

2. Her family ties will appear stronger to Canada because of you (so this is a negative for a TRV).

3. The restaurant business document (affidavit) is not a tie.... without hard evidence + no active partnership.... it is not convincing.

4. She can include a Letter of Financial Support from her dad.... stating he will pay for her airfare + itinerary.... your wife must include her dad's bank statement.


So you must include some other strong reason (with proofs) to show that she will return to her home country
 

rahman2

Star Member
Feb 15, 2015
152
13
Category........
Visa Office......
Sydney
NOC Code......
2171
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
21-10-2016
Nomination.....
06-09-2016
AOR Received.
10-01-2017
Bryanna said:
1. The only strong tie which your wife can prove is her Masters study program.... BTW when will she complete her Masters degree? You can stress on the fact that she will return as she will not jeopardize her Masters.
Thanks a lot.
Appreciate your detailed information.
Her final exam will be at the end of August but after that she has to do research for her thesis. She said it could be December to finish her masters.

BTW, the processing time is 19 days as of now for my country.

Regards,