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cnd_grl

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Hello all,

I have applied for my PR through the CEC class in April of 2014, and received my file number on 05/06/2014. It should be getting close to the time that I receive my passport request. I also had my husband on my application as an accompanying family member. However, at this point in time, my husband is not in a position to be able to send his passport to CIC. Are there any negative implication for me if he is unable to send his passport immediately? Will my PR visa be rejected or delayed? Will I still be able to get my visa and make my first landing if he is unable to send his passport?

Thanks for your consideration,
CDN_GRL
 

maniac2403

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cnd_grl said:
Hello all,

I have applied for my PR through the CEC class in April of 2014, and received my file number on 05/06/2014. It should be getting close to the time that I receive my passport request. I also had my husband on my application as an accompanying family member. However, at this point in time, my husband is not in a position to be able to send his passport to CIC. Are there any negative implication for me if he is unable to send his passport immediately? Will my PR visa be rejected or delayed? Will I still be able to get my visa and make my first landing if he is unable to send his passport?

Thanks for your consideration,
CDN_GRL
He can't send it because he is not in Canada or he needs his passport for travel purposes? If he has valid reasons not to submit his passport, then you should write to CIC explaining your situation and asking for an extension. The more you delay, the lesser time you will have to land and become a PR, as the immigration stamp gives one year from medical upload date to land.

Passports of all applicant's mentioned in the application need to submit their passports for stamping. There have been situations, when spouses have submitted passports in different countries, but they have not been that far apart from stamping, date wise.
 

cnd_grl

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maniac2403 said:
He can't send it because he is not in Canada or he needs his passport for travel purposes? If he has valid reasons not to submit his passport, then you should write to CIC explaining your situation and asking for an extension. The more you delay, the lesser time you will have to land and become a PR, as the immigration stamp gives one year from medical upload date to land.

Passports of all applicant's mentioned in the application need to submit their passports for stamping. There have been situations, when spouses have submitted passports in different countries, but they have not been that far apart from stamping, date wise.
Thank you for your reply. However, I think I need to be a bit more clear about my question. I am the principal applicant and I have not yet received my passport request, and I don't know when I will. My concern is that my husband may not be in a position to send his passport to CIC any time in the near future. As such, I need to know if there will be any affect on my passport stamping and visa if he does not send his passport. In other words, will my visa be delayed or rejected if CIC does not receive his passport? Is my visa dependent upon him sending his passport?

Thanks,
CDN_GRL
 

maniac2403

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cnd_grl said:
Thank you for your reply. However, I think I need to be a bit more clear about my question. I am the principal applicant and I have not yet received my passport request, and I don't know when I will. My concern is that my husband may not be in a position to send his passport to CIC any time in the near future. As such, I need to know if there will be any affect on my passport stamping and visa if he does not send his passport. In other words, will my visa be delayed or rejected if CIC does not receive his passport? Is my visa dependent upon him sending his passport?

Thanks,
CDN_GRL
How long is any time? If it is a matter of few weeks, then you can ask CIC for additional time. If it is longer than that, then you can still ask CIC, but they won't reconsider. If both of you are in the same country, then all passports need to be sent together. If not, stamping will be delayed. Tell us the reason, if possible, as to why your husband can't send his passports, so that we could provide better guidance.
 

cnd_grl

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maniac2403 said:
How long is any time? If it is a matter of few weeks, then you can ask CIC for additional time. If it is longer than that, then you can still ask CIC, but they won't reconsider. If both of you are in the same country, then all passports need to be sent together. If not, stamping will be delayed. Tell us the reason, if possible, as to why your husband can't send his passports, so that we could provide better guidance.
Let me put it plainly. My husband and I are having marital issues and I'm afraid that he will not send his passport when he gets the request. We are not in the same country. If he refuses to send his passport what are the implications to my PR visa?

Thanks,
CDN_GRL
 

maniac2403

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cnd_grl said:
Let me put it plainly. My husband and I are having marital issues and I'm afraid that he will not send his passport when he gets the request. We are not in the same country. If he refuses to send his passport what are the implications to my PR visa?

Thanks,
CDN_GRL
Sorry to hear that. If that is the case, then you need to tell CIC to take him off your case. That way only your passport will get stamped.
 

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maniac2403 said:
Sorry to hear that. If that is the case, then you need to tell CIC to take him off your case. That way only your passport will get stamped.
There are 3 choices:

1) If your husband is interested at all in Canadian PR, he will send the passport.
2) If he isn't, you can proceed without him. If you're at the passport request stage, it sounds like he has complied with filling out the forms, medical exam, etc. If he has done all that, you can change him to non-accompanying, and that would preserve your ability to sponsor him in the future (with all the fun of a new PR application).
3) If you are separated because of a breakdown of the marriage, you can inform CIC that your family status has changed, and ask to remove him from the application.
 

cnd_grl

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jes_ON said:
There are 3 choices:

1) If your husband is interested at all in Canadian PR, he will send the passport.
2) If he isn't, you can proceed without him. If you're at the passport request stage, it sounds like he has complied with filling out the forms, medical exam, etc. If he has done all that, you can change him to non-accompanying, and that would preserve your ability to sponsor him in the future (with all the fun of a new PR application).
3) If you are separated because of a breakdown of the marriage, you can inform CIC that your family status has changed, and ask to remove him from the application.
Hi jes_ON,

Thank you for you reply! Let me respond to each of your points:

1) At this point, I am unsure if my husband is interested in a Canadian PR. That is why I am attempting to find out what happens if I receive the passport request and send my passport and my husband does not send his. Will my passport still get stamped and returned? Or will it be held until my husband's is received? Or something else?
2) Yes, we have already completed all the forms, the medical, and the PCC submission. However, it should be noted that we pre-submitted the PCCs prior to receiving the request for them. I have considered the option of changing him to "non-accompanying" but also have another worry. He was deported from the Gulf country he was living in back to his country of origin after we submitted our PCCs. He was not deported for criminal reasons, the company that was sponsoring him to stay and work in the country had issues with him and withdrew their sponsorship. Will this be a problem for his criminal/security check?
3) Yes, the separation is because of a marital breakdown. I have also considered changing my marital status to "Separated". However, I am concerned that I will be asked to show proof of the separation. Do you know what proof I might be asked to give, and what proof would be acceptable? How long would they expect me to prove us to be separated for?

Thank you for all your time, I know I have a lot of questions! At this point, I don't really expect him to co-operate with me in any matter and I am attempted to determine the best course of action to ensure my PR is not affected or delayed.

CDN_GRL
 

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Or will it be held until my husband's is received? Or something else?
No, you will get your PR in time.
the company that was sponsoring him to stay and work in the country had issues with him and withdrew their sponsorship. Will this be a problem for his criminal/security check?
Deported? Did not leave voluntarily? It is not criminal offence but very bad nevertheless. From now on he will have to inform about it when he applies for visa.
3) Yes, the separation is because of a marital breakdown. I have also considered changing my marital status to "Separated". However, I am concerned that I will be asked to show proof of the separation. Do you know what proof I might be asked to give, and what proof would be acceptable? How long would they expect me to prove us to be separated for?
Just inform CIC that you are separated. Leaglly or not it does not concern CIC as long as you inform them that he is now non-accompying you to Canada any more, and give them SOME explanation.
 

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I repeat - you have 3 choices - these are not "points" but 3 different scenarios, one of which you will need to chose. If he remains an accompanying co-applicant, you need to have his passport to finish processing. If not, you have to decide whether to keep him as "non-accompanying" or remove him from your application. From what you say above, it sounds like Option 3, you will need to inform CIC about the change in your marital status, and have him removed from your application. As Regina noted above, no "proof" is required, but a brief explanation (e.g refuses to communicate / cooperate) is enough.

Option 2 keeps the door open for you to sponsor him later if you think that reconciliation is possible in the future.

1) If your husband is interested at all in Canadian PR, he will send the passport. (If you are completely unable to communicate with him, I would say that he is not interested).

OR

2) If he isn't interested, you can proceed without him. If you're at the passport request stage, it sounds like he has complied with filling out the forms, medical exam, etc. If he has done all that, you can change him to non-accompanying, and that would preserve your ability to sponsor him in the future (with all the fun of a new PR application).

OR

3) If you are separated because of a breakdown of the marriage, you can inform CIC that your family status has changed, and ask to remove him from the application.
 

cnd_grl

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jes_ON said:
I repeat - you have 3 choices - these are not "points" but 3 different scenarios, one of which you will need to chose. If he remains an accompanying co-applicant, you need to have his passport to finish processing. If not, you have to decide whether to keep him as "non-accompanying" or remove him from your application. From what you say above, it sounds like Option 3, you will need to inform CIC about the change in your marital status, and have him removed from your application. As Regina noted above, no "proof" is required, but a brief explanation (e.g refuses to communicate / cooperate) is enough.

Option 2 keeps the door open for you to sponsor him later if you think that reconciliation is possible in the future.

1) If your husband is interested at all in Canadian PR, he will send the passport. (If you are completely unable to communicate with him, I would say that he is not interested).

OR

2) If he isn't interested, you can proceed without him. If you're at the passport request stage, it sounds like he has complied with filling out the forms, medical exam, etc. If he has done all that, you can change him to non-accompanying, and that would preserve your ability to sponsor him in the future (with all the fun of a new PR application).

OR

3) If you are separated because of a breakdown of the marriage, you can inform CIC that your family status has changed, and ask to remove him from the application.




Is there any way i can sponsor him at a later point if we reconcile? This is what my GCMS notes say before the removal request:

CRIMINALITY:
PA:- RCMP Screening: No reportable trace. – Police Certificates:-India: No reportable trace. – Kuwait: No reportable trace.
Spouse/Common Law:- – Police Certificates:-India: – Kuwait:
All required PCs received and there seems to be no A36 concerns evident. I note that the SPOUSE was residing in Kuwait at the time of lock-in. Updated PC may be required.

MEDICALS:- MEDICALS NOT STARTED FOR ALL APPLICANTS
PA:- Current medical status: Passed. Valid until: 06JUL2015.
Spouse/Common Law:- Meds re-evaluation requested.
RECOMMENDATION: REVIEW REQUIRED BY OFFICER

Since I requested for the GCMS notes, his details are blank.
 

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so hows it goin? :) we maybe in the same boat lol