Sponsoring - How much $ is enough?

[gillespiedc]

I am Canadian by birth and have been living in China for over 4 years. Next month I will return to Canada to re-establish myself at home. This will be kind of a 'clean-slate' re-start, as we have only modest savings, as well as a pension fund accumulated before I left.

Here is the question: As I apply for jobs and get that ever famous question, "how much salary are you looking for?", what is going to be my answer while considering I will apply to sponsor my wife and depentant daughter for PR?

Also, when I get a job will I be in a position to apply to be a sponsor while I am on probation? Or will I have to wait until employment if permanent?

Thank you,

Doug

 

[iarblue]

If you are a Canadian and you are going to sponsor,there is no income requirement for family sponsorship of a spouse.So if you are married you can apply now

 

[iarblue]

Also you can apply outland and stay with your wife while the process is being completed.The only thing is you need to prove your intent to reestablish in Canada,like prove you are going to move there right after the PR.
Some ways you may do this,proof of job searches,proof of searching for an apt.A letter from realitives saying you are going to stay with them until you find a place to stay.
But its up to you,if you dont mind being away from your family as you apply,because they may not get a visit visa to come visit and it could take a bit of time for the process.

Processing Times at Individual Visa Offices in Asia and Pacific 30% of cases finalized in:

Beijing 2 3 4 5
Colombo 6 8 10 14
Hong Kong 8 12 13 14
Taipei 2 3 4 5
Tokyo 4 6 7 8


These are the timelines for processing so as you can see Beijing is 80% processed in 5 months

 

[gillespiedc]

Hi again iarblue,

First let me apologize for accidentally hitting the "poor' button (darn crappy mouse!). I pressed the good button right after so I hope that fixed it.

Your answer takes a lot of pressure off, I do not feel uncertain about supporting my family but I do wonder what the government will do when they see that I have not been employed in Canada for over 4 years.

Thank you for your response. This being the case we may proceed sooner than planned.

Doug

 

[gillespiedc]

This afternoon I will be posting the news of our TRV. Passports were couriered out to us yesterday so we are waiting for a knock on the door anytime now.

Once we know that we can proceed accordingly. If denied, we will start the PR process in Hong Kong. Once we submit the applications am I free to return ahead of my family to get set up? Or do I have to remain with them here for interviews and such?

Doug

 

[iarblue]

Yes they dont really care that you haved not worked in Canada in four years they just want you to show that once she recieves the PR that you plan to live in Canada.So you can do what ever you feel is best for you both.Stay there while the process is being done,or you come ahead of her to get yourself set up.But her ap will likely be done in 5 months or less so staying there and proving your intent to move back once her PR is done is likely your best choice.
Hope this helps ease your mind.
And no worries thanks.

 

[iarblue]

Hong Kong oh yes they take 14 months to approve,well if the TRV is denied then you can decide what you want to do from there as it is a long time to be away from eachother.

 

[iarblue]

Is there anyway she can move to beijing lol its half the time in processing

 

[iarblue]

And yes you can go ahead of her,but you might want to take the apps with you,get a place in canada,put that down as your address.But like i said are you willing to be without them over a year as the process time in Hong Kong is 14 months.
But lets wait to see if the TRV is approved.What did you put in the TRV as to why you wanted them?

 

[gillespiedc]

We wish! I mentioned in another thread about that, I was actually able to talk to a real person on the phone and was told that territory is determined by her PRCID location, not where she resides. We have family and friends in BJ and even if she went to stay with them during the process it won't work that way.

TRVs are handled for the whole country through BJ, but PRs for the southern provinces are directed to Hong Kong. This is why we opted to go inland, I don't want us to wait for over a year to start setting up house in Canada. We know that it may come to us being apart for a short or a long time, but we will jump off that bridge when we get to it... lol.

Doug

 

[gillespiedc]

Once we get the news I am going to update the thread where we discussed the TRV before. I think there are a few people interested in the outcome, and there is a fair amount I need to add to that story. Please be patient for just a little longer and you will get the news Happy news, we hope!

 

[iarblue]

Well lets wait to see the outcome of the TRV then.

 

[causticlilgirlie]

If you are a Canadian and you are going to sponsor,there is no income requirement for family sponsorship of a spouse.So if you are married you can apply now

hi iarblue, the official CIC website seems to say the opposite.

"When you sponsor a spouse, common-law or conjugal partner, or dependent children to become permanent residents of Canada, you must promise to support them financially. Therefore, you have to meet certain income requirements."
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/immigrate/sponsor/spouse-apply-who.asp

i've talked to a number of folks who say the same thing you did, though. so really, which is it? :'(

 

[gillespiedc]

Hi Caustic,

I have read that link, and a few others that say the same thing... I must promise to support my spouse and dependant child for 3 and 10 years, respectively. Further to that it stated, "Therefore, you have to meet certain income requirements...", however, noplace I have looked on the CIC site does it provide specific guidlines or numbers. I would assume they would be different depending on where we live. For instance, we wouldn't make it on $30K a year in Vancouver, but that might be close to a solid start if we lived in a town like Thamseville, or Ingersoll.

This incomplete requirement information is quite frustrating to say the least. I am about to go out and get this started, but have to work in the dark. And while it may or may not be true that I will meet the requirement without employment, I believe that it would be better if I did have a job as we apply. I also have saved every incoming and outgoing email from my job search (not just for the CIC) so I believe they will see I am serious about living in Canada again.

We will carry on, create our own budget, and keep looking for the right answers. If anyone has more links, or personal experience in this matter we would appreciate the feedback.

Thanks,

Doug

 

[canadianwoman]

When you sponsor a relative, you have to agree to support them financially for a certain time. There are income requirements, but the income requirements are waived when you are sponsoring your spouse. But you are still expected to support them, if they need it.

You don't need an income, but of course the application will go smoother if you have one. This is because if the sponsor has no income, the visa officer will wonder how the couple will survive in Canada. If it seems as if the couple has no plans for their life together in Canada, and it looks like they have not discussed this, it will seem to be a fake marriage; therefore, no visa.
So if you don't have an income right now, show evidence that you are looking for a job, that your foreign spouse is bringing money with him/her, that your parents have agreed to support the two of you until you get on your feet; whatever. Anything that shows you are in fact planning a life together, and have discussed how to support yourselves.