Sponsoring family after arriving as a PR. How?

[goodman36]

My friend came to Canada as a PR 2 months ago. His sister who is a Canadian Citizen sponsored her mother /father 6 years ago. Since my friend was under 18 at that time - he was also included in the application. In the meantime, my friend got married and had a baby. Now when the mother and father and my friend arrived 2 months ago - he had to leave behind his wife and the new baby. Now he wants to bring his family here. He is telling me that prior to coming here - he did fill out a document sent by Singapore office (where the application was processed) where he stated that he is now married and wrote he wife/ baby's name. However, when he landed - his landing paper says he is unmarried.

At this time, how should he proceed to sponsor his wife/baby?

Issue is, he was married prior to landing and the landing paper says he is unmarried.

Any expert advice? Would help a lot someone who is confused how to proceed.

 

[Ponga]

My friend came to Canada as a PR 2 months ago. His sister who is a Canadian Citizen sponsored her mother /father 6 years ago. Since my friend was under 18 at that time - he was also included in the application. In the meantime, my friend got married and had a baby. Now when the mother and father and my friend arrived 2 months ago - he had to leave behind his wife and the new baby. Now he wants to bring his family here. He is telling me that prior to coming here - he did fill out a document sent by Singapore office (where the application was processed) where he stated that he is now married and wrote he wife/ baby's name. However, when he landed - his landing paper says he is unmarried.

At this time, how should he proceed to sponsor his wife/baby?

Issue is, he was married prior to landing and the landing paper says he is unmarried.

Any expert advice? Would help a lot someone who is confused how to proceed.

If his CoPR document shows that he landed as `single', I'm afraid he has a very big problem.

When he landed, he was probably asked at least 3 questions; one of those would have asked if his marital status had changed since his application was submitted. It sounds like he may have answered that question by saying "No", which is why the CoPR shows him as single.

OR

CIC made a mistake.

He needs to contact CIC ASAP and find out who made the mistake. If it turns out that it was in fact his mistake...he will never be able to sponsor his wife and child under the Family Class sponsorship.

 

[scylla]

He can never sponsor his family. He also committed misrepresentation which may put his own PR status in jeopardy.

Once he got married, he no longer qualified as a dependent on his parents' application and was no longer entitle to come to Canada as part of their application and become a PR. So no matter what he says to you - he did not properly notify CIC about his marriage. If he had - CIC would have told him he was no longer a dependent and no longer eligible to come to Canada with his parents.

By coming to Canada with his parents, he lied about his status and said he was single.

He can never sponsor his family because he landed as a single individual. If he tries, he can expect to be refused - and it's quite possible CIC will revoke his own PR status since he wasn't entitled to get it.

He has two options for bringing his family to Canada:
1) His wife will have to qualify to immigrate on her own through one of the economic immigration programs like Federal Skilled Worker.
2) He will need to give up his PR status, return home, and then apply for PR from scratch through one of the economic immigration programs (and include his family in his application)

He has no other options since he obtain his PR status fraudulently.

 

[Rob_TO]

He is telling me that prior to coming here - he did fill out a document sent by Singapore office (where the application was processed) where he stated that he is now married and wrote he wife/ baby's name.

The important piece of info is not if he sent something to Singapore, it's what Singapore acknowledged and sent back to him. Seeing as they issued his COPR as "single", most likely Singapore never received the documents he says he sent to them. If they had received them, they would have removed him from his parents PR application since he was no longer a dependent.

So to reinforce what scylla has already said, he can never sponsor his wife/child to Canada, and if he even tries his own PR will most likely be revoked.

 

[jhutti]

My friend came to Canada as a PR 2 months ago. His sister who is a Canadian Citizen sponsored her mother /father 6 years ago. Since my friend was under 18 at that time - he was also included in the application. In the meantime, my friend got married and had a baby. Now when the mother and father and my friend arrived 2 months ago - he had to leave behind his wife and the new baby. Now he wants to bring his family here. He is telling me that prior to coming here - he did fill out a document sent by Singapore office (where the application was processed) where he stated that he is now married and wrote he wife/ baby's name. However, when he landed - his landing paper says he is unmarried.

At this time, how should he proceed to sponsor his wife/baby?

Issue is, he was married prior to landing and the landing paper says he is unmarried.

Any expert advice? Would help a lot someone who is confused how to proceed.

His wife marry to someone. Then divorce that person in 6 montjs time. Show kid born of that guy.

Then bring her here as TFW on some farmland work. Marry her here. Then sponser her Outland. Kid needs to stay with grandparents till then. This option is bit safe
Or
your freind go back, marry wife and sponser kid and mom. But cic can easily judge something fishy and will call for interview
Make sure his wife never admit in interview at later stage that your freind and her have previous relationship

 

[zardoz]

His wife marry to someone. Then divorce that person in 6 montjs time. Show kid born of that guy.

Then bring her here as TFW on some farmland work. Marry her here. Then sponser her Outland. Kid needs to stay with grandparents till then. This option is bit safe
Or
your freind go back, marry wife and sponser kid and mom. But cic can easily judge something fishy and will call for interview
Make sure his wife never admit in interview at later stage that your freind and her have previous relationship

So, your solution is to compound misrepresentation with yet more misrepresentation.. Unbelievable...

 

[scylla]

His wife marry to someone. Then divorce that person in 6 montjs time. Show kid born of that guy.

Then bring her here as TFW on some farmland work. Marry her here. Then sponser her Outland. Kid needs to stay with grandparents till then. This option is bit safe
Or
your freind go back, marry wife and sponser kid and mom. But cic can easily judge something fishy and will call for interview
Make sure his wife never admit in interview at later stage that your freind and her have previous relationship

There will be a great deal of documentation to falsify for either option above - including but not limited to: the child's birth certificate, marriage certificate, letter of permission to remove child from the country, etc., etc., etc. He'll just be taking a bad situation and then making it much worse with no guarantee of a positive outcome at the end. Keep in mind that misrepresentation bans are now 5 years.

 

[zardoz]

There will be a great deal of documentation to falsify for either option above - including but not limited to: the child's birth certificate, marriage certificate, letter of permission to remove child from the country, etc., etc., etc. He'll just be taking a bad situation and then making it much worse with no guarantee of a positive outcome at the end. Keep in mind that misrepresentation bans are now 5 years.

It's going to be difficult to falsify DNA testing results if CIC ask for them.

 

[scylla]

It's going to be difficult to falsify DNA testing results if CIC ask for them.

Yes - I was thinking that as well.

 

[DanSlh]

His wife marry to someone. Then divorce that person in 6 montjs time. Show kid born of that guy.

Then bring her here as TFW on some farmland work. Marry her here. Then sponser her Outland. Kid needs to stay with grandparents till then. This option is bit safe
Or
your freind go back, marry wife and sponser kid and mom. But cic can easily judge something fishy and will call for interview
Make sure his wife never admit in interview at later stage that your freind and her have previous relationship

Oh my eyes...
That's why our cases takes too long.

 

[torontosm]

His wife marry to someone. Then divorce that person in 6 montjs time. Show kid born of that guy.

Then bring her here as TFW on some farmland work. Marry her here. Then sponser her Outland. Kid needs to stay with grandparents till then. This option is bit safe
Or
your freind go back, marry wife and sponser kid and mom. But cic can easily judge something fishy and will call for interview
Make sure his wife never admit in interview at later stage that your freind and her have previous relationship

DO NOT LISTEN TO THIS GUY. This is fraud and misrepresentation, and could land your friend into a world of trouble. I'm not sure why clowns like this come onto this site and post such nonsense.

 

[micmac101]

Yes - I was thinking that as well.

Why is it that they think they can hide information from CIC. This is why some cases take so long.
They are so making it harder for others.

 

[goodman36]

Thank you Ponga, Scylla and Rob_TO for all your valuable comments. Also appreciate others participating.

This is really a sad situation. Basically, my friend wasn't proactive in finding out more.

Anyway, he insists that Singapore VO (where the file was processed and his passport was sent) sent him and his younger sister a form where they were asked about their current status (the form was send along with PP request letter) - he clearly stated that he was now married and that he has a baby. Unfortunately he doesn't have a copy of that form he sent. Also, at Pearson Airport when he landed, he wasn't asked any question.

At this point, would it be possible to order notes from the Case file in Singapore VO to find out what they have on him? Can he or his Sister (who was the original sponsor of the family - mother / father and siblings) can request those notes? Will that be helpful in building a case?

 

[Ponga]

You're welcome. It's too bad we can't offer any solace to your friend for this tragic mistake.
Personally, I find it hard to believe that he landed without being asked any questions.

As scylla already mentioned, he was not eligible to continue his own PR application once he was married, so there's really nothing that he (or anyone else) can do now.




Good luck to him.

 

[goodman36]

Thanks, Ponga, again.

When he sent his passport for Visa (along with all family members), his passport clearly stated that he was married. And then that was that form he filled out stating his current status as married. So, can't he fight this saying Singapore office was aware of his marital status and still issued a visa?