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Sponsored persons Responsibilities, is there any ?

xavier_forte

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I am the sponsor of my wife, my wife has now left me making false accusation. And now getting social assistance.
I understand that I have to pay for social assistance.
But I have exceeded the basic requirements as listed in Sponsorship.

As a sponsored Immigrant, I asked my wife to be self-sufficient. And she doesn't want to work.
When I asked her(my wife) to take ESL classes she refused take them saying that she hasn't come to Canada on Student Visa.
She was keep asking me to start sponsorship process for her brother. I told her that I can't do that as I am not in financial position to do so. Day and night she wanted to sit on Internet and Phone, Talk to her family in Back home. Because of this She started complaining about headaches. When I told her stop doing this she started accusing me that I am trying to harass her and that she has women rights in Canada and she will Call them.
Unfortunately due to Recession, I accepted a job from Ontario. outside of my home province as I was struggling with financial need.
she took advantage of this situation and start blaming that I don't want her to live along with me. Everyone know how hard it is to live in Canada on financial basis. specially when you have a house in one province on Mortgage and job on other province. Despite that I used my Credit Cards. to pay for travel tickets. But I was financially at extreme low. One can said that at tipping edge of calling for bankruptcy. Luckily that didn't happened as I got another job offer in my home province and in the same city where my house was.
mean while process for getting hiring is in progress. I visited to my home and give this news to my wife and requesting for sometime that I will be able to over come my financial difficulties and upon explaining my situation she agreed to be supportive and with my reference she ended up getting a Job in Walmart.. But my wife never believed on me. And keep accusing me and my family. And then she attempted a failed suicide, by taking 15 pills that were prescribed by family doctor. I took her to Hospital immediately for treatment. After that I book appointment to family doctor, on asking her that what was the impact of these prescribed pills, she revealed that, those pills are only for mood changing and are not of as significant threat.
In addition, Doctor advise that my wife is keep complaining that you are keeping her away from you and she is having a hard time in settling in Canada. she said, I should send her back home for a while may be she is missing her family.
Keeping this situation, I asked my wife does she wants to go to back home, also taking her family in confidences. upon their agreement I ended up buying her ticket to back home. At same time my wife visited the Walmart asking for vacation. Walmart refuse to give her vacation so she quit the job. I have to ask a lot of loan for this from my sister and parents.
After that, my wife talk to her family and started saying that now she don't want to go back. I told her look I have bought your ticket and I have paid 1500 dollars for tickets. She started accusing me that if she leave home then she will never be able to come back in Canada. And then she called Alberta Health Crisis team who came along with police and took her and officer of law asked me to Cancel her ticket. I Cancelled her ticket and only able to recover half of the amount. After this my wife came along with police and took all her belonging and left fore ever.
few months later, I received a motion from Ontario Court, stating that my wife has now filed a claim for spousal support.
and Ontario works has started paying her welfare.
Now everyone is saying because I sponsor her so I am responsible for paying social assistance. I understand that.
But my question is.
My wife has choose to quit the job. she has moved to Ontario. her entire family lives in her country of origin.
on asking Ontario works that why my wife is not working. They reveal that she has mental illness.
I don't know what should I do. I don't want to get any more debt and I have already fulfill the requirement of sponsorship as sponsor.
To me it appears she just used me to gain access to Canada and now she has already put me into date of more than 40000 dollar and
now she is going for social assistance which would put into further debt.
There are no responsibilities for Sponsored immigrant at all in the Law ?
She is making false stories and everyone is believing her. I reported this incident to CBSA and Ontario works.
My entire life is being destroyed. I am finished.
And now I am reading a post on forums that everyone is saying its costing Canadians a money there for Sponsor should be held responsible?

It appears that I have committed a sin of sponsoring my wife. Tomorrow if she commit a crime, I guess I am the one who will be prosecuted.

I am in extreme psychological, emotional, and financial stress. Death seem easier than life.
I don't know what should I do.
 

scylla

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You don't say when your wife landed and became a PR. Unfortunately as part of the sponsor's agreement you signed, you agreed to be financially responsible for her for a period of three years from the date of her landing. And yes, you're unfortunately correct in understanding that if she takes any social assistance payments during these three years, you will be responsible for paying these amounts back to the government. Once the three years have passed, your responsibility disappears. When did she land? How close are you to completing the three year obligation?

Unless she's committing social assistance fraud (i.e. taking social assistance while working and not declaring her income), I don't think there's anything you can do except wait for the three years to pass and hope the financial damage to you is minimal.
 

xavier_forte

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She landed on December 02 2011 and she separated for on March 05 2013.
I believe she started getting social assistance from May 2013
 

Leon

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Unfortunately there doesn't seem to be much that you can do. When you signed the sponsorship agreement, you agreed that you would take care of your wife's financial needs for 3 years after her landing as a PR. Maybe she was expecting that she didn't have to work. That is a family issue between a husband and wife. It does not constitute marriage fraud. In the end, she did get a job because of you asking her. From what you describe, it really sounds like she has mental illness. It doesn't sound like she is faking it.

You will not be getting out of re-paying the money she gets from welfare but you can get a lawyer to protect your interests with the divorce. I assume she is entitled to alimony and half your assets unless you had a prenuptial agreement.

Your will be responsible for her upkeep until December 02 2014 so you have another 11 months to go. The divorce is another matter entirely. You would have to talk to a lawyer about that.

It is not so bad that you would be held responsible for her crimes though :)
 

on-hold

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And you might find that if you divorce, she will receive half of your debt. I know several people in Ontario who ended up with half of their ex-spouse's (massive) student loan debt -- though that might be a special case.
 

xavier_forte

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:( All along my school life, My teacher taught me that everyone is responsible for their action. So Wrong.. In case of Sponsorship Canada. it is Sponsor who is responsible the crimes of sponsored person.
 

Leon

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on-hold said:
And you might find that if you divorce, she will receive half of your debt. I know several people in Ontario who ended up with half of their ex-spouse's (massive) student loan debt -- though that might be a special case.
Since she helped him make the debts, it seems fair in this case if that happens.
 

Leon

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xavier_forte said:
:( All along my school life, My teacher taught me that everyone is responsible for their action. So Wrong.. In case of Sponsorship Canada. it is Sponsor who is responsible the crimes of sponsored person.
What are you talking about? You are not responsible if she commits a crime.

Whatever she did so far is not a crime. If she is lazy and doesn't want to work, hang on the phone all day, that is no crime. If she is mentally ill, that is not a crime either.
 

xavier_forte

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I am going to write this to minister of immigration that there should be some responsibilities get set for sponsored Immigrant. If they failed to fulfill it they should be deported from Canada as they are costing too much money to Canadian Tax payor.
 

scylla

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Being on social assistance is not a crime. And if a sponsored person does in fact commit a real crime - they are held responsible - not their sponsor.

I agree that everyone is responsible for their actions. Unfortunately one of your actions was signing the sponsorship undertaking which holds you financially responsible for the person you sponsored for a period of three years. All sponsors sign this agreement. It's part of the responsibility we accept in exchange for being able to sponsor our partners.

What you are going through right now must feel horrible. I'm very sorry for that. I really hope the financial impact to you is as little as possible.
 

xavier_forte

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Leon said:
What are you talking about? You are not responsible if she commits a crime.

Whatever she did so far is not a crime. If she is lazy and doesn't want to work, hang on the phone all day, that is no crime. If she is mentally ill, that is not a crime either.
The Crime is that she quit the job and claiming as mental ill, without any doctors report. And choosing social assistance for no reason. and moved from Alberta to Ontario. Without any explanation. Sounds to me a preplanned execution.
 

xavier_forte

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scylla said:
Being on social assistance is not a crime. And if a sponsored person does in fact commit a real crime - they are held responsible - not their sponsor.

I agree that everyone is responsible for their actions. Unfortunately one of your actions was signing the sponsorship undertaking which holds you financially responsible for the person you sponsored for a period of three years. All sponsors sign this agreement. It's part of the responsibility we accept in exchange for being able to sponsor our partners.

What you are going through right now must feel horrible. I'm very sorry for that. I really hope the financial impact to you is as little as possible.
Please tell me did I failed to provide all those requirements listed in Sponsorship agreement. I provided her all necessities and ensure of her all well being. And she left me for what ?
 

xavier_forte

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Sponsored persons Responsibilities, is there any ?

Being a self sufficient, is a law of mother nature. even an animal work for his living. In her Case, I even ended up getting her a job as well.
 

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xavier_forte said:
I am going to write this to minister of immigration that there should be some responsibilities get set for sponsored Immigrant. If they failed to fulfill it they should be deported from Canada as they are costing too much money to Canadian Tax payor.
I'm curious what you feel these responsibilities should be.
 

scylla

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xavier_forte said:
Please tell me did I failed to provide all those requirements listed in Sponsorship agreement. I provided her all necessities and ensure of her all well being. And she left me for what ?
No - I'm certainly not saying that you failed.

I'm saying that one of those requirements is that you must repay any social assistance the person you sponsored takes within three years of landing.

It sucks - but you're stuck and are going to be held responsible for the agreement you signed.