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sponsor rejection pls help

Yana

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Nov 10, 2011
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Category........
Visa Office......
london office
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
05 april 2013
Doc's Request.
November 24, 2015
AOR Received.
sponsorship rejection in july 2013
Med's Request
November 24, 2015
Med's Done....
January 05, 2016
Interview........
waived
Passport Req..
february 19, 2016 and passport submitted on February 23, 2016
VISA ISSUED...
case refused on 18 sept 2014 won appeal on july 31, 2015
my husband got this letter . Can anyone help me out what should we do now?

response from CIC:

this refers to your application and regret to advise that you are not ineligible sponsor for the following reason:
you are in default of a previous sponsorship undertaking. Your previously sponsored relative recieved social assistance benefits during the validity of the undertaking that u signed or co signed. As such you do not meet regulation R133(1)(g)(i). Pleas e refer to the Immigration and refugee protection regulations below for details

You indicated on your sponsorship application that you wish to continue with its processing regardless of any ineligibility. A such the application for permanent residence for your relative has been forwarded to a visa office abroad for consideration.

Your ineligibility to sponsor will be a significant factor in the assesment of the application for permanent residence for your relative . A final decision regarding that application shall be made by the visa officer and will be communicated to you and your relative. Instructions regarding the right to appeal will be issued as applicable by the visa office. please note that the right to appeal may only be exercised after the visa officer has rendered a final decision.
 

screech339

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Apr 2, 2013
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Category........
Visa Office......
Vegreville
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
14-08-2012
AOR Received.
20-11-2012
Med's Done....
18-07-2012
Interview........
17-06-2013
LANDED..........
17-06-2013
Sounds like your husband's previous sponsored PR relative whether it is his parents, or his ex wife has collected social assistance (welfare). You did not mentioned whether your husband has sponsored his parents or whether this is his second marriage to you and he has sponsored his previous wife.

So he cannot sponsor you for PR until this other previous sponsored relative stopped collecting welfare and your husband pay back the collected welfare back in full.

If it is his parents, he is responsible for them for 10 years since they landed. So at some point, they collected social assistance and thus he is not performing his obligation.

If it was his ex-wife, she may have collected welfare during the 3 year obligation or even 10 years depending on how long ago the ex-wife was sponsored.

Screech339
 

rhcohen2014

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Apr 6, 2014
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Visa Office......
Ottawa
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
March 17, 2014
Doc's Request.
April 11, 2014
AOR Received.
May 8, 2014
File Transfer...
May 9, 2014
Med's Request
upfront
Med's Done....
Nov 15, 2013
Interview........
waived
Passport Req..
July 15, 2014
VISA ISSUED...
July 25, 2014/ received August 1, 2014
LANDED..........
August 29, 2014
also, it's not recommended that you keep the application in play, as it will be rejected on the fact the sponsor is found ineligible. if you want to save your applicant processing fee, then withdraw the application and resubmit when you get everything else figured out. otherwise, you are bound to loose out on that money. The sponsor fee has already been processed, so you won't get that fee back.
 

keesio

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May 16, 2012
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Toronto, Ontario
Category........
Visa Office......
CPP-O
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
09-01-2013
Doc's Request.
09-07-2013
AOR Received.
30-01-2013
File Transfer...
11-02-2013
Med's Done....
02-01-2013
Interview........
waived
Passport Req..
12-07-2013
VISA ISSUED...
15-08-2013
LANDED..........
14-10-2013
I strongly agree with rhcohen2014. It is almost guaranteed that the application will be rejected.
 

Mariac819

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Feb 29, 2012
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New York USA
Category........
Visa Office......
Ottawa
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
Sept. 10, 2014
Doc's Request.
May 06, 2015 - they lost my relationship proof and FBI clearance. They will accept copy of FBI, I sent in more relationship proof.
AOR Received.
Oct. 23, 2014 (By Phone)
File Transfer...
Oct. 28, 2014 (SA)
Med's Request
Upfront
Med's Done....
July 25, 2014
Interview........
waived
Passport Req..
none
VISA ISSUED...
DM - June 23, 2015 COPR June 24, 2015
LANDED..........
July 12, 2015
I would withdraw because you will lose your money if the PR application is processed and rejected. That is a lot of money to lose when your chances of rejection are high since your sponsorship application has already been denied.

It is clearly stated that if you are in default of an undertaking you cannot sponsor.

Also, for the future there is a check box in the sponsor application that states you want your PR application returned if you don't meet the requirements for sponsorship and you get your PR application money back. All you lose is your sponsorship application fee since that is already processed.
 

scylla

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Jun 8, 2010
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Toronto
Category........
Visa Office......
Buffalo
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
28-05-2010
AOR Received.
19-08-2010
File Transfer...
28-06-2010
Passport Req..
01-10-2010
VISA ISSUED...
05-10-2010
LANDED..........
05-10-2010
Mariac819 said:
I would withdraw because you will lose your money if the PR application is processed and rejected. That is a lot of money to lose when your chances of rejection are high since your sponsorship application has already been denied.
The chances of refusal aren't high - they're guaranteed. A file can't be approved without sponsorship approval.
 

Mariac819

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Feb 29, 2012
967
43
New York USA
Category........
Visa Office......
Ottawa
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
Sept. 10, 2014
Doc's Request.
May 06, 2015 - they lost my relationship proof and FBI clearance. They will accept copy of FBI, I sent in more relationship proof.
AOR Received.
Oct. 23, 2014 (By Phone)
File Transfer...
Oct. 28, 2014 (SA)
Med's Request
Upfront
Med's Done....
July 25, 2014
Interview........
waived
Passport Req..
none
VISA ISSUED...
DM - June 23, 2015 COPR June 24, 2015
LANDED..........
July 12, 2015
scylla said:
The chances of refusal aren't high - they're guaranteed. A file can't be approved without sponsorship approval.
I am aware.. I didn't tell them to leave the application :). But thank you for the correction.

Which gets me thinking, they should just automatically return it. There is no point in forwarding the application except to make money off rejections.
 

PMM

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Jun 30, 2005
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Mariac819 said:
I am aware.. I didn't tell them to leave the application :). But thank you for the correction.

Which gets me thinking, they should just automatically return it. There is no point in forwarding the application except to make money off rejections.
1. That is why there is a check box, asking if you want to proceed if the sponsor is found not to be eligible. It is your choice whether you checked yes/no, CIC doesn't care. The $475 doesn't come close to the processing cost of an application.
2. Some sponsors want to proceed and then take their chances at an Appeal to the Refugee Appeal Division.
 

Mariac819

Hero Member
Feb 29, 2012
967
43
New York USA
Category........
Visa Office......
Ottawa
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
Sept. 10, 2014
Doc's Request.
May 06, 2015 - they lost my relationship proof and FBI clearance. They will accept copy of FBI, I sent in more relationship proof.
AOR Received.
Oct. 23, 2014 (By Phone)
File Transfer...
Oct. 28, 2014 (SA)
Med's Request
Upfront
Med's Done....
July 25, 2014
Interview........
waived
Passport Req..
none
VISA ISSUED...
DM - June 23, 2015 COPR June 24, 2015
LANDED..........
July 12, 2015
PMM said:
Hi


1. That is why there is a check box, asking if you want to proceed if the sponsor is found not to be eligible. It is your choice whether you checked yes/no, CIC doesn't care. The $475 doesn't come close to the processing cost of an application.
2. Some sponsors want to proceed and then take their chances at an Appeal to the Refugee Appeal Division.

I mentioned the checkbox in my original post.