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mrJason

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Sep 24, 2008
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Why is it thatthe immigration process takes so long.
If someone was to run a business in this way they would be bankrupt.
It is very disheartening when you have to wait 5 years minimum from a UK citizens point of view as we have good relatons between the two countries.
Canada act as though they want skilled foreigners in their country but the process is designed to put you off instead.
This is making me think that over there people will be ver prejudice if not a Canadian.
I have applied for 100's of jobs from the UK and no joy either.

They either want people over there or they dont. The new laws etc is just an excuse to delay people further.

Surely the conservatives shoul dhave had a policy in place efore they ran for the election. Why is this not implimented immediately.
 

spaceace

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Oct 16, 2008
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Backlog and number of applicants.

I'm in the same boat as you. Applying for everything and getting nowhere.

Agencies are on 100% commission and employers seem to do not understand the process or want to risk employing immigrants.

I have to say my experience with the London office has been poor with 3 out of 4 queries not replied to even though the information is not on the CIC website.
 

mrJason

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Sep 24, 2008
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I have had no emails returned from CIC out of the 3 i have sent.
Their opening times are 9-11am no wonder there is a back log.

I am beginning to request a refund as I applied when I was 27 and 30 now and still over here.

Are we supposed to drop everythin as soon as they. People would have moved on in life and they expect us to sit around waiting on them to do something.

Its funny how they need the process fee straight away but you dont get even a response to an email after you spend the 400 it cost.
 
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feras80

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Hello
Canada has the fastest processing time ever, period.
You r not the only person applying for pr, millions of ppl waiting in the line as well.
Having a new life, career, nationality, life style wont be achieved in overnight.

Cheers,
 

EasyRider

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feras80 said:
Hello
Canada has the fastest processing time ever, period.
You r not the only person applying for pr, millions of ppl waiting in the line as well.
Having a new life, career, nationality, life style wont be achieved in overnight.

Cheers,
feras80, you're wrong. I can't uderstand what are they're doing in Canadian processing centers for years.

It's just a vicious system. Check out UK tier 1/hsmp processing times on trakitt - it's being finalized in days, it's not a PR itself, but close to and has almost the same set of documents to process, yet it done in days. I just don't get what they "process" there for years and why allowed such backlogs.
 

NewYorker

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Employers usually won't give out job without a work authorization and t get work authorization in Canada, you need a job - I tried the same thing but no luck.

I think it will not be a wise decision to drop your application after completing 3 years in line.
 

NewYorker

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NewYorker said:
Employers usually won't give out job without a work authorization and t get work authorization in Canada, you need a job - I tried the same thing but no luck.

I think it will not be a wise decision to drop your application after completing 3 years in line.
And now after the new law, they can pick and choose...
 

Leon

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I think the backlog happened because Canada just became overrun with immigrants. With FSW, it's one of the few immigration programs anywhere that you don't need a job offer or any ties to the country, you are just getting in on the merits of your education and experience and you go straight to PR. It's very convenient for the applicant. That is why I went for it when I immigrated. Back then it was a lot faster. I applied through London, sent in my application October 2000, got an AOR January 2001, request for medicals April 2001, my PR visa July 2001. What happened since then, I assume the applications just kept piling in and without adding more staff to process them, the processing times get longer and longer. There are right now something like 1 million people waiting in the FSW backlog and about 250,000 get in every year and if the backlog isn't getting smaller, that means that there are over 250,000 applying every year. Maybe they should have done something about it sooner but at least they are doing something now.
 
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feras80

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I can't uderstand what are they're doing in Canadian processing centers for years.
This is their job and not yours.


Check out UK tier 1/hsmp processing times on trakitt - it's being finalized in days,
you should understand why ;)

I just don't get what they "process" there for years and why allowed such backlogs.
Each country has its own rules and processes, and you should respect them. you dont like it? you simply can go somewhere else
Cheers,


Well these are what they get. If you dont like it, you can apply to somewhere else.


EasyRider said:
feras80 said:
Hello
Canada has the fastest processing time ever, period.
You r not the only person applying for pr, millions of ppl waiting in the line as well.
Having a new life, career, nationality, life style wont be achieved in overnight.

Cheers,
feras80, you're wrong. I can't uderstand what are they're doing in Canadian processing centers for years.

It's just a vicious system. Check out UK tier 1/hsmp processing times on trakitt - it's being finalized in days, it's not a PR itself, but close to and has almost the same set of documents to process, yet it done in days. I just don't get what they "process" there for years and why allowed such backlogs.
 

Brown eyed girl

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Nov 16, 2008
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mrJason said:
It is very disheartening when you have to wait 5 years minimum from a UK citizens point of view as we have good relatons between the two countries.
Canada act as though they want skilled foreigners in their country but the process is designed to put you off instead.
I too am an applicant from the UK and I too had (obviously wrongly!) assumed that due to the good, strong ties between UK and Canada, what with both countries belonging to the Commonwealth and OUR British monarch being on the Canadian dollar bills, they would try to be a bit more welcoming! I agree with you that either they want skilled foreign workers, or they don't! At the moment it seems every single rule and regulation is designed to throw a new spanner in the works.

They say if you have a job offer, then this could help your application for PR. But let's face it, who's going to offer you a job or even bother filing any paperwork with CIC for you if it's going to take YEARS (not months) for you to get your PR! Same as the PNP programs...I thought if you could fill an occupation that is in demand in that particular province, you could just apply and go on over - but, NO - you need to have a job offer first and be residing in that Province! This seems crazy to me. They're saying you need to have a ticket to get on the train, but you can only get the ticket if you're already ON the train. Mmm, something here does not sound quite right.

Sadly a lot can change in a person's life in 5 years; illness, redundancy, divorce, bankrupcy - you name it! I know patience is a virtue and there are hundreds of thousands of applicants waiting years for their lives to improve. I wish you all luck, we need it.
 

Leon

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If you had a job offer for a skilled worker application, it would be fast tracked and so would not take years to go through. I am not sure which application is taking 5 years right now. Skilled worker through London without a job offer is supposed to average at just under 3 which of course is still bad.

You also have other options like going on a temporary work permit and applying for PR later through a provincial nominee program or canadian experience class. You could also if you are under 30 go on a BUNAC visa for one year and use that year to find an employer who will help you stay.
 

Brown eyed girl

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Leon said:
If you had a job offer for a skilled worker application, it would be fast tracked and so would not take years to go through. I am not sure which application is taking 5 years right now. Skilled worker through London without a job offer is supposed to average at just under 3 which of course is still bad.

You also have other options like going on a temporary work permit and applying for PR later through a provincial nominee program or canadian experience class. You could also if you are under 30 go on a BUNAC visa for one year and use that year to find an employer who will help you stay.
Thanks Leon. Unfortunately I am 37 so BUNAC is out of the question...at the moment applying for jobs from the UK seems like a waste of time. I applied for PR in London last April 08 so now am at mercy of the "Fantastic 38" list which I am already practically sure I'm not on :-(

Do you think I would stand better chance of getting a job offer if I go to Canada for a few weeks and apply from there? I know I won't be able to actually start work but maybe...just maybe someone may agree to apply for AEO or LMO. I was out there (in Ontario) last month for 10 days (staying with friends) and there seemed to be a reasonable amount of jobs advertised. Usual problem though, they always say "applicant must have permission to work in Canada" so I wonder if that would be applying for a job under false pretences....
 

Leon

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You stand a better chance if you can interview for sure and you should apply for everything, just tell them that you will need a work permit. You never know if you might be the only qualified candidate. Before I immigrated to Canada, I tried helping a guy from an EU country find a job in another European country where he wouldn't even need a work permit and it was impossible. He applied for so many jobs and just got the answer.. well.. if you were here.. Finally he went there and got a part time job in the first week and a full time job within a month. From that experience, I would assume that most employers prefer seeing people before they hire them.

It doesn't hurt if you know a bit about the work permit process too so you can tell the employer. The employer who wants to hire you may have to advertise a bit more extensively and then can apply for a labour market opinion. If it is approved, he can give it to you and you can apply for your work permit at the border. It might not be a good idea to wait for it in Canada though because it could take a while.
 

aghijan

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Oct 16, 2007
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Actually I did exactly as Leon said. I applied for many jobs and I got no answer. This time I made calls and talked to any potential employer. I got some people interested in my qualifications and work experience. However, they weren't willing to offer me a job because they wanted to have a face to face interview with me. I didn't get disappointed and tried more; it paid off, at last. I got a job offer and at the same time hired an immigration consultant in Ontario to take care of the process. I hope I will get a positive response from HRSDC within December.

Even if I don't get a response from them I don't mind. I still have time and will go on with my life. I believe applying for Canadian PR is an investment. I have waited for 3.5 years and will wait another year to get through.

We shouldn't wait and count the days; we should just go on with our normal life. Things will come your way, anyway.
 

EasyRider

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Check out UK tier 1/hsmp processing times on trakitt - it's being finalized in days,
you should understand why ;)
Can you elaborate on this? the only thing I can imagine is things are all bad in the UK.

I just don't get what they "process" there for years and why allowed such backlogs.
Each country has its own rules and processes, and you should respect them. you dont like it? you simply can go somewhere else
Cheers,


Well these are what they get. If you dont like it, you can apply to somewhere else.
Well, I don't like many things yet have to do them.