Single Work Experience Letter for multiple positions within the same company & work duration problem

[Lazy]

Good day everyone,

Well I tried this post in other threads but didn't get a response so I thought maybe I start my own thread. So I have a quick question relating to work experience letter for the express entry application, well, a couple of questions to be more precise but they are all related. And before I get into the questions I would like to explain my situation and the confusion I am facing. So, I worked at a company for almost 7 years, from June 2009 to June 2016, and worked in two different department, lets call them Department A and Department B. I also held two different positions/designation during my stay at this company, one as an assistant manager and one as a manager. For the first 15 months I was in Department A as an assistant manager and then moved to Department B again as an an assistant manager and remained at that designation for a little over 4 years. Then I was promoted to the post of manager and after 15 months of serving as a manager in Department B I left the company in June of 2016.

Now, I did get an experience letter from my immediate boss in Department B but the letter doesn't give any details of my job description in Department A (the first 15 months of my work experience) because he was not my supervisor in Department A and cannot realistically give details of my job description or the work I did there. Moreover, getting experience letter from Department A is not a possibility. The other thing is that I got the letter 3 months before I left the job so it doesn't cover the last 3 months' period of my work experience as well. Keeping in view the aforementioned scenario, I have the following questions; the answers of which I need to figure out:

Q1) Should I mention work experience on my application as the entire 7 years or should I just subtract the duration not covered in the letter? or just go with the time-period I served under my supervisor in Department B which happens to be more than 5 years but less than 6 years? I should also mention here that while filling-in the application, in the work experience section, I see the options of 4-5 years of experience and 6+ years of experience but no option for 5-6 years of experience so which option to choose then?

Q2) Should I mention my work experience as one entry since my entire work experience is in one company or should I break it down into 3 separate entries depending on the designations and departments while filling-in the online application?

Q3) I should mention it here that I can only arrange one letter so in case I go for three separate entries will the same letter suffice for all of them?

Q4) Is it okay if my ex-supervisor in Department B mentions that I worked in Department A for this much period and in such and such capacity without delving into specific details, will it suffice? or should I just remove the mention of that period from my application altogether?

Q5) Should I ask my ex-supervisor in Department B to rewrite me the letter now so that the last 3 months are also covered in the letter which were left out when I initially got the letter 3 months prior to leaving the company?

I know this is a lengthy read but I feel like I needed to write all this in order to make sense of what I wanted to ask. I would highly appreciate if anyone who has been in the same boat could help me out and guide me or if there is any expert on this subject who would like to chip in with their opinion/expertise. Thanks

Best,
Lazy

 

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Q1) Should I mention work experience on my application as the entire 7 years or should I just subtract the duration not covered in the letter? or just go with the time-period I served under my supervisor in Department B which happens to be more than 5 years but less than 6 years? I should also mention here that while filling-in the application, in the work experience section, I see the options of 4-5 years of experience and 6+ years of experience but no option for 5-6 years of experience so which option to choose then?

Only stick to what you can prove which is the period mentioned in the reference letter. 5-6 years is 4-5 years. Other parts of your work that you cannot prove only goes to the Personal History section in the PR application.

Q2) Should I mention my work experience as one entry since my entire work experience is in one company or should I break it down into 3 separate entries depending on the designations and departments while filling-in the online application?

Split into 3 parts: the part you have the letter for goes to Work History section to claim points for and other two parts goes later into Personal History section.

Q3) I should mention it here that I can only arrange one letter so in case I go for three separate entries will the same letter suffice for all of them?

No. You will not get points for the two parts if you can't get reference letters for them. So, avoid the hassle of writing an LOE which will not benefit you.

Q4) Is it okay if my ex-supervisor in Department B mentions that I worked in Department A for this much period and in such and such capacity without delving into specific details, will it suffice? or should I just remove the mention of that period from my application altogether?

Reference letter has to have all CIC requirements with all the details. If the boss is OK to give you a detailed letter for both departments with all CIC requirements that is fine. Otherwise, it is useless.

Q5) Should I ask my ex-supervisor in Department B to rewrite me the letter now so that the last 3 months are also covered in the letter which were left out when I initially got the letter 3 months prior to leaving the company?

Yes, if you want to claim the last 3 months of your employment.

Thanks for the detailed response. And thanks for pointing out the CIC requirements for the letter which I am aware of and have already talked to my supervisor about adhering to that specific format in the revised letter. I do, however, have a few followup questions though:

Q1) As far as my understanding goes, for work experience outside of Canada it doesn't matter how much years of experience beyond 3 years I have, because 4,5,6+ years of experience will fetch me the same points, right? If that's the case does it really matter if I show the first 15 months at Department A in my work experience and by the same token the last 3 months in Department B? The reason I am asking this question is because when I talked to my ex-supervisor he was fine with revising the letter in order to meet the CIC required format but was hesitant to change the dates/duration. But in any case I'll try to push him to include the last 3 months of my service in the letter.

Q2) My second question is that if I break the work experience in three separate entries as:

Xp1: Assistant manager Department A from June 2009 to Sep 2010

Xp2: Assistant manager Department B from Oct 2010 to March 2015

Xp3: Manager Department B from Apr 2015 to June 2016

And I can only get an experience letter from my supervisor in Department B, wouldn't it be prudent to merge Xp2 and Xp3 into one? Moreover my supervisor remained the same throughout that time and he already wrote me the letter mentioning both positions in one letter. I am just confused as to what should be my job title in that case because I worked as an Assistant Manager and then as Manager and left the company when I was a Manager? Should I just call at as being Manager or Assistant Manger in the title and just merge the roles and tasks of both positions in one entry? That way one letter would suffice and I would have 5 and a half year of experience as well to go with it?

Thank you very much for your time and valuable guidance.

Best,
Lazy